The car project I am sure really helped a lot of the next gen Apple CarPlay. So we got that out of it.
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Apple Cancels Electric Car Project
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You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%–30% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.
And they don’t pollute cities. So yes, they are more green.
If they are out, they’re out. They are not coming back when the market matures. That would make no sense giving the long development time.
You obviously do not study enough news / information sources...I'll agree with you that they aren't green as nothing really is...
I dont think they will ever do a mass market car or TV.. too much risk and investment with big items logistics involved an all. I dont think they want any kind of gamble really that requires big investment and in an already loaded marketplace like cars and TVs where a failure costs a lot more than VR glasses segment for instance.
Electric cars and TVs is going nowhere though and are here to stay, even if I feel some kind of real push for hydrogen cars is probably on the horizon somewhere as well.
edit: they should have bought LG 9 years ago (first 4K Oled HDR panel) in that case.. and prob. Tesla back then as well. Its too late now.
Electric cars and TVs is going nowhere though and are here to stay, even if I feel some kind of real push for hydrogen cars is probably on the horizon somewhere as well.
edit: they should have bought LG 9 years ago (first 4K Oled HDR panel) in that case.. and prob. Tesla back then as well. Its too late now.
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Yeah you're fine now. What about when ExxonMobil decides your gallon of gas at $2.65 is better off at $9. You'll buy an EV the same week papi-chulo.
I can't say I'm surprised. But Apple specializes in simplifying complex personal technologies where they can control all facets of production and implementation. Cars don't fit into that scenario. Apple has no control over roadways, traffic signals, crosswalks nor other vehicles on the road. Those aspects were probably obstacles too difficult to overcome. I'm amazed they've gone as far as they have with CarPlay, since they can't control the automakers' hardware choices. Hopefully this means one less distraction for the company, so they can focus on what they do best.
There’s no way with HW3 or HW4 that FSD will ever be close to Level 4 or 5.
Smart move by Apple. No need to try to be everywhere and in markets with low margins and huge overheads. Let's focus back on hardware and software.
So, Tesla is absolutely lying. There's no way anybody sane would let a car drive itself without a combination of lidar, radar, and cameras to go with wheel sensors and inertia sensors.
But I would disagree that you need artificial general intelligence. One thing you REALLY need to keep in mind is that humans are absolutely TERRIBLE at driving. If somebody were to invent the car for the first time today there's no way a product that unsafe would ever be allowed on the streets. All a self-driving car really needs to save a lot of lives is to be significantly safer than humans, and I think that's definitely happening already.
It just ain't gonna be Tesla. And if they keep up the bullcrap, NHTSA is going to boot their "full self driving" right off the road.
Hey now, bikes are pretty dang green. Extremely efficient as far as distance covered vs energy consumed goes and the only waste is the stuff you'd already be producing just by being alive.
Of course, they're not super practical as an only form of transport for the vast majority of people and there are some accessibility issues but it doesn't seem fair to say that nothing is green. Just... most things... aren't. 😂
I want to see the concept art
Thank god, now they can finally focus on creating a supersonic jet
Tesla is pushing the tech in a very real way, but their marketing and lassiez-faire attitude toward the whole problem attracts the attention and patronage of some of the worst existing drivers on the road, who then grossly misuse the system Tesla has developed. That, more than anything else, is probably why Tesla won't be the first to the line with a true driverless vehicle.
Why in the world would you believe that?
Most of the big tech companies spent the last decade or more growing various side projects with money flowing into almost anything, including “zero return” (present or future) projects like better benefits for employees like childcare on site.
Apple scaling back or closing the supposedly secret car project is simply more of this same cost cutting. Anything that isn’t a core business is going through this. Alphabet closed almost all of its “moonshot” companies. Google is spinning out riskier bets that don’t provide future ad revenue streams like Nest Renew.
This has zero to do with industry level EV trends as several pages of discussion seem to have devolved into. It may have something to do with Apple’s internal outlook on AV cars, only time and some kind of “tell all” will give us insight.
Edit: one more thing- Apple like any corporation can make several bets and should! A 100% hit rate is impossible and canceling the Car means very little besides the fact it obviously isn’t a bet they want to keep in their diversified portfolio. It could be a good project but bad for Apple’s internal theory of business. It’s foolish to project much else on to this.
Apple scaling back or closing the supposedly secret car project is simply more of this same cost cutting. Anything that isn’t a core business is going through this. Alphabet closed almost all of its “moonshot” companies. Google is spinning out riskier bets that don’t provide future ad revenue streams like Nest Renew.
This has zero to do with industry level EV trends as several pages of discussion seem to have devolved into. It may have something to do with Apple’s internal outlook on AV cars, only time and some kind of “tell all” will give us insight.
Edit: one more thing- Apple like any corporation can make several bets and should! A 100% hit rate is impossible and canceling the Car means very little besides the fact it obviously isn’t a bet they want to keep in their diversified portfolio. It could be a good project but bad for Apple’s internal theory of business. It’s foolish to project much else on to this.
“It’s like headphones for your legs.”
Love my Tesla, and will get another one next year. However, they’re not the future. There’s simply not enough raw minerals for them to ever be viable for the masses.
We’re glad that MS didn’t make cars either.
While disappointing, it was probably a good decision by Apple to kill the project mostly because the vehicle market as a whole is struggling, margins are thin, Apple is late to the game, and the cost of batteries is out of control.
However, it is a fact that electric motors are far more efficient, have good ranges for most people, and are overall more green.
What constitutes good range is somewhat subjective based a person's driving habits and his or her proximately to a charging station, but the efficiency argument is not even close. A gas motor oil only converts 12 to 30 percent of the energy from gas to power to turn the wheels, while an electric motor transfer about 75 percent of the energy to power to turn the wheels.
Good. I hope they will focus on their products and realize they are lagging behind competition.
Most of the Teslas I commute with every day (you see the same cars/drivers heading towards the industrial/business parks) do use the road like their own personal playground and always use the fast acceleration at every opportunity. Tyres must be cheaper for them? This starts wacky races as ICE drivers with high end cars try to race them (I see you Audi/BMW driver).
EVs have really started a new wave of ultra fast driving off the lights but the driving skill doesn't match the new available power. Meanwhile I'm just trying to get to the office safely while avoiding all the potholes.