1st question no.
2nd question there are numerous publications I would not know we're to start. Perhaps let's look at the China study. If you have a open mind all this info can be googled And I'm willing to have the conversation.
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2nd question there are numerous publications I would not know we're to start. Perhaps let's look at the China study. If you have a open mind all this info can be googled And I'm willing to have the conversation.
Procreation has nothing to do with marriage, neither is needed for the other. Homosexuals can still procreate, being gay doesn't mean they don't still have the options. Specially in this day and age where there are a number of ways to procreate outside basic sex. Not everyone feels the need or is even capable of procreating, that very much includes many many heterosexuals. There are also numerous examples of homosexuality in nature. So what ever your point was, it's not very stable.
"In God We Trust" sound familiar?
"and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
And countless laws like to stay on topic laws against homosexuality are purely derived from christian views .
A court would see this as plain and simple racism no mater what invisible people tell you you should follow as part of your religion.
The civil rights movement happened half a century ago an I think anti-discrimination laws need to be reevaluated.
You still haven't produced any current laws based on religion.
No need we do need to re-evaluate the link between gouv and religious cults .
Ah so currency and oath of allegiance every official has to swear arent enough?
Ok to stay on topic
Mariage law defining it between a single man and women comes directly from religion.
Any law banning same sex marriage comes from the same.
Every law banning same-sex unions will be struck down.
Thanks to the checks and balances system the founding fathers set up.
Currency is not issued by the government and the currency system initself is dubious as is.
The "so help me god." part does not habe to be spoken if you do not wish to. It's also not a direct reference to any specific religion. Neither of those two examples are laws.
DOMA was still law from 1996 to 2013
And several states still have it banned.
So in this you are yet again wrong .
BS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust
Such legislation was introduced and passed on April 22, 1864, allowing the Secretary of the Treasury to authorize the inclusion of the phrase on one-cent and two-cent coins.[13]
It also the motto of the USA .
"Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Texas, and Virginia still require "so help me God" as part of the oath to public office. "
DOMA was a law. I said that it will be struck down everywhere. Future tense. Thanks for the link on the "In god we trust." coin thing and the oath of allegiance thing. i am german and i assumed that it can be left out in the oath because in germany it can be left out.
So the bottom line is that the lawmakers discriminate against atheists only, because they are supposed to say "so help me god." which is probably against their faith, that there is no such thing as god. That's tough luck
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You simply dont know if it will be struck down . You asked for examples and i have given plenty . I wish it was as you claim but unfortunatly the us/states gouv still has and still takes plenty of religious influence while creating laws .
That simply has to stop letting something as moronic as organised religion in 2014 set the democratic rules is bafling .
And to loop back to the topic , until then discrmination against gays remain and we will need people like cook to bring it to attention .
I am not totally a fan of organised religion myself, but I would not call it moronic. That's just your opinion.
I also think that Cook brought this up because he had a hard time growing up in Alabama and that is unfortunate.
Nobody even knows what interpretation of the Bible Tim Cook subscribes to or doesn't or even if he's a Christian. This discussion is worse than arguing about the GT bankruptcy! LOL
I am a gay Christian and challenge church teachings for the reasons I argued with BrianVictor, not because I wanted to mock him, but because I wanted to point out that his Biblical knowledge and logic skills putting his very accurate quotes together does not add up to a completely logical thesis or thought.
To sum up his various quotes.. Jesus was a Jew, therefor he considered gays just as bad as lepers and prostitutes. Contradiction... Jesus was crucified for defying OT scripture as presented to the Romans for hypocrisy and crucifixion.
BrianVictor claims he's exempt from Jewish law because he's not a Jew therefor he can eat at Red Lobster. Yet he uses that same law to say Jesus Christ was against homosexuality. Another contradiction.
You'll notice I didn't quote any scripture. It's not because I didn't know it. I in fact considered becoming a priest at one point in my life. Just because you can quote a phrase doesn't make you smarter than other people. You can take practically anything out of context if you want.
I put up the challenge for anyone to find a Gospel Quote of Jesus condemning homosexuality as related to Tim Cook and no one could find one. I knew that because there are none!
I only mocked BrianVictor when he brought up the story of Sodom because it has nothing to do with homosexuality but is often misquoted as such.
I'm sorry, but any Christian who quotes the Sodom story right out the gate to state what Jesus believed about homosexuality immediately tells me they don't know the meaning of the word or its contextual usage today vs. biblical and once again even if Jesus mentioned it doesn't mean he was talking about homosexuality. There's simply no evidence that this word directly refers exclusively to homosexuality.
Once again I'll state... People who are haters will always find quotes or ways to hate.
Jesus, however, hung out with the lepers and prostitutes and would probably not hang out with you.
People that label themselves as gay are so-called fighting for the same rights as straight people. Holy matrimony has everything to do with the procreation whether not a couple sticks to that covenant is on them I am not their judge. I don't go studying animals so I don't know. what I'm talking about God-fearing human beingson this earth for specific reasons.
Options are there but not naturally. My point is very stable.
Naw. Back in the day, it used to be about large tracts of land as much as anything.
Tim Cook said in his coming out essay:
"Im proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me."
I think we can safely assume he was talking about the Christian God.
Umm, how can we assume that based on just one sentence? Why does it even matter which "God" he's referring to?
Perhaps he was talking about the God of Spinoza (see below.)
Why would you fear your "creator"? Doesn't sound very loving to me. Why are you people always make him out to be a sociopathic, vindictive, egomaniac? And you wonder why the number of people who subscribe to your faith is plummeting.
So do you think Tim prefers Freddie Mercury, Elton John, Frankie Goes to Hollywood or George Michael?
Holy Matrimony used to be about finding a wife who's family would pay you to marry you and having kids to enslave them for work on the farm.
Is that in the Bible? What did Jesus say about that I wonder BrianVictor & others?
Even in modern times, the woman's family had to pay for the wedding.
What did Jesus say about that?
I'm half hoping this will now turn into The Jesus War on Women AND Gays argument! LOL
God is an English term translated from/into many languages. I assume he meant a Christian God too, but once again,
HE DID NOT SAY A CHRISTIAN GOD.
Just like Jesus never said anything about homosexuality!
Fact, you dont need to be married to have kids.
Fact, you dont have to have kids if you get married.
Fact, neither is needed for the other.
Fact, marriage is not owned by any religion nor do you need religion to get married.
Your personal beliefs of for marriage and procreation are limited to you, not anyone else.
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