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don't hold your breath....you'll die.

so many people laugh at me for building a self sufficient home and living off the grid. I can laugh back at them now with no power bills , water bills , debt free.

i have a regular job like everyone else , i just live differently.

interesting... how long did it take you to get to that point? And what made you decide to finally do it?

I've been interested in doing some sort of solar panels or something to cut my dependency on the power company.
 
He may not be trolling. I have found that many of my personal beliefs have been met with intolerance. I personally am not a fan of the gay lifestyle. I do not believe that something is beneficial of right Nu st because that thing is permissible.

I believe that no person should be discriminated against and that we all have the right to choose our own paths. I do not think I should be discriminated against or looked down upon because I do not approve of a certain lifestyle.

I also don't generally hear anyone complain about a lack of tolerance when republicans (I'm an independent) are being demonized in the press or by late night pontificators. I have found that those who preach tolerance do not usually dispense it evenly amongst all people.

The same amount of intolerance is given out by the daytime Republican radio hosts.

I agree we all have to be more tolerant but if someone is being demonized regardless of polical affiliation, it is our job, especially as independents, to investigate the facts to determine if said demonization is warranted. Sometimes
 
Right, a book written thousand of years ago by people who believe the sun orbited the Earth is your reliable source ?

God is a delusion created by man.
World war one happen the answer is yes why because there is historical record to back it up I was not there but I have to rely on the historical record. Was Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead yes why because the Bible and historical record backs it up was I there no.
 
He came out as being homosexual. His sexuality is the core of this discussion. Sexuality generally involves the use of ones sexual organs. No need for fantasy here, this is what he is telling us, which we do not need to hear. From anyone. Period.
Guess what. Gay people hear about straight people's sexuality everyday. You don't see us getting upset at straight people for being themselves.
 
He may not be trolling. I have found that many of my personal beliefs have been met with intolerance. I personally am not a fan of the gay lifestyle. I do not believe that something is beneficial of right Nu st because that thing is permissible.

I believe that no person should be discriminated against and that we all have the right to choose our own paths. I do not think I should be discriminated against or looked down upon because I do not approve of a certain lifestyle.

I also don't generally hear anyone complain about a lack of tolerance when republicans (I'm an independent) are being demonized in the press or by late night pontificators. I have found that those who preach tolerance do not usually dispense it evenly amongst all people.
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It's probably because you think being gay is a 'lifestyle', rather than an inherent trait.
 
This explains why he is so excited about a watch.... JK

I'm happy for him. Can't wait till we live in a world where people don't have to come out though. Where you are just free to be yourself.
 
But you do not run a multi-billion dollar international company. No one on this forum cares if you are gay or not.

Interesting point. I actually thought of addressing that in greater detail, but chose against so I could focus on different, less-covered aspects of “closet issues”. You know, there are a *lot* of different closets, not just the better-known sexual orientation-related ones. Check this video to get a sense of what I was getting at:

https://www.ted.com/talks/ash_beckh...let_s_find_the_courage_to_open_up?language=en

But since you brought that up…

I did address it in part. Truth be told, even leaders from contries full of bigotry and hate, don't really give a fsck as to whether the CEO of the world's most powerful company is gay or not. Seriously!

Consider the following (for now, unlikely) scenario: if the USofA had an hispanic transgender woman as president, do you seriously think that, in the international diplomatic theatre, she would be routinely or even occasionaly denied proper head of state treatment? Maybe by some rogue terrorists like ISIS, where not even a more “conventional”, heteronormative official would set foot anyway, sure, but not by, say, the king of Saudi Arabia. You know it to be true: money and/or raw power really speaks louder than anything else.

The only incident I've heard of in my country, Portugal, was when the Pope, while visiting the country, refused to meet with both then Prime Minister Sá Carneiro and his partner (they were both divorcees, so they couldn't remarry in a catholic ceremony), to which the PM responded by (rightly so, if I may add) *not* attending the formal reception at all… But those are the exceptions that kind of prove the rule; above a certain social stature and bar a certain degree of religious fanaticism, it really doesn't matter either way.

Anyway, keep an eye on the latest rumours that the iPhone is about to be deployed (heh :D ) in Iran, and on the latest retail foray Apple is making into Turkey. If the first goes through and the latter doesn't stall, my theory will be partly proven right. Oh, and do you seriously this will keep the chinese nouveau-riche from buying Edition Apple Watches and russian magnates/mobsters from buying Feld&Volk gold-modded iPhones? Think again… And keep an eye on their website. ;)

As for the reasons why Tim did what he did and when he did it: did you even read the damn article? The cat was pretty much out of the bag long ago, so if coming out could bring both a net human *AND* corporate/economic benefit, why not do it anyway? Do you seriously think this wasn't at least discussed within the Apple Board? If Tim is as much for transparency and full disclosure (when appropriate) as he is, he certainly must have brought it up, and the math certainly added up, too. Apple does, indeed, do “the right thing”, but mostly when it serves its interests; fortunately for us all, not only is Apple the largest corporate behemot in the whole world (meaning, it can get away with taking this kind of stands just fine), but the latter and its people also already evolved enough that Tim Cook got to do it right now.

I, for one, know a lot of affluent gay people who may dump their Android devices sooner or later, and they will most certainly make up for the sales to some bigots that Apple *may* lose to their competitors. :p As for the people who may get some respite and hope from knowing for a fact (in these cases, rumors alone don't quite cut it) that one of the world's most powerful people, who runs, as you said, a multi-billion dollar international company, is actually gay, I'm very happy for them…
 
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You get what you give. Ho hummm. The truth is people can sense things about you even though you think you are doing a good job of hiding it. They respond in kind and you don't like the way you treat and look down on others being thrown right back at you.

Wow. You were able to glean all that from a few sentences on a website? You know nothing about me and you proved it in your silly and uniformed post.
 
Wrong - words have power. I refuse to accept your power over me. If you insist on calling me names, I will label you Oppressor.

But now you're doing just what you claim to condemn. You can't tell someone not to label you.

Then when they label you because it's their own belief,

Turn around and label them something negative.

It's just they way they want to live their life. Be tolerant of it and move on.

This is coming from someone that's been labeled a WHOLE LOTTA things in his lifetime by varying degrees of persons.

Yes, it sucks that we have to put up with such nonsense, but that is the world we live in.
 
I thought everyone already knew!...........

I don't really think so--maybe many people did realize this but many like myself really never gave it any thought one way or the other--not something I would go looking for but I admire the guy for making a point of this and publicly acknowledging his sexual orientation.
 
When did you choose to be straight?

I don't think you can answer 'when'. That's like asking someone "When did you choose to start eating your vegetables".
I think the correct question is 'why?'

But I agree that everyone has a choice. We are intelligent human beings, in that the one thing that drives us beyond any other living thing on the planet is that we can make a choice.

Unfortunately, people choose to make bad choices, even when the majority of society agrees that your choice is a poor one. (I'm talking about smoking)
 
When did you choose to be straight?
I was conditioned by my family to be straight because they are God-fearing people and they had raised me to be Christian. If they raised me to be gay then obviously I would not be straight. There are reasons why people attracted to the opposite sex but they fall under one category a disconnect from God.
 
World war one happen the answer is yes why because there is historical record to back it up I was not there but I have to rely on the historical record. Was Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead yes why because the Bible and historical record backs it up was I there no.

Does spiderman exist yes because there is a book in my store saying he does was I there no.
 
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