Apple CEO Tim Cook Touts Benefits of Globalization in China Speech

[citysnaps]

Like I have a choice ? I have apple computers made in the US, as I'm deep in the ecosystem, where do you recommend I turn for my OS? Apple has a choice where they manufacture .

My Japanese gear....mostly Japan thank you. As it consists of photography gear. Majority of my L lenses are from Japan.

You certainly do. If you feel strongly about the societal norms you enjoy in the UK, and rail against governments that are at odds with your views, simply do not buy products manufactured in those countries. Life will go on for you.

Apple has a choice where they manufacture to the extent there is infrastructure available to support Apple's manufacturing requirements. With respect to iPhones, that would be manufacturing 600,000+ iPhones per day on the average, peaking to close to 1 million units per day during certain periods (product release and Christmas season). There is only one country in the world that can support those manufacturing requirements.

Write a letter to Tim Cook making a convincing case that you and millions of others would be willing to pay a lot more money for your iGadgets and perhaps he would move manufacturing to the UK after your country spends many years developing/encouraging the needed infrastructure and training many tens of thousands of people - Foxconn, btw has around 1.2 million employees. Be sure to address in your letter how you would convince Samsung and all of the other electronics/gadget manufacturers to move their manufacturing to western countries so that the cost of their devices will be priced similar to Apples much higher prices, so there is no unfair advantage in pricing.

 

[MH01]

You certainly do. If you feel strongly about the societal norms you enjoy in the UK, and rail against governments that are at odds with your views, simply do not buy products manufactured in those countries. Life will go on for you.

Apple has a choice where they manufacture to the extent there is infrastructure available to support Apple's manufacturing requirements. With respect to iPhones, that would be manufacturing 600,000+ iPhones per day on the average, peaking to close to 1 million units per day during certain periods (product release and Christmas season). There is only one country in the world that can support those manufacturing requirements.

Write a letter to Tim Cook making a convincing case that you and millions of others would be willing to pay a lot more money for your iGadgets and perhaps he would move manufacturing to the UK after your country spends many years developing/encouraging the needed infrastructure and training many tens of thousands of people - Foxconn, btw has around 1.2 million employees. Be sure to address in your letter how you would convince Samsung and all of the other electronics/gadget manufacturers to move their manufacturing to western countries so that the cost of their devices will be similar to Apples, so there is no unfair advantage in pricing.

Yeah yeah, the old of you don't like it leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Not that simple mate.

Separate politics from product is what we are asking , in this case the hypocrisy.

Let me sum it up for you, the product I'm the most proud of in my 2013 Mac Pro, it's had made in America , made of components mostly from china, but it's the principle , and I'm not American.

I'm happy to support greedy apple, fact, what I'm not happy is to be lectured about transgender, race , politics while TC bows to the Chinese in keynotes and ignores the injustice to the workers that make his products.

That is jobs was brilliant, its was about the products, now it's a bunch of fat execs playing celebrities and milking apple for what's it worth before retiring in huge sums. Defend them away but don't lecture me about how this is about me and many others willing to pay more for apple products.

 

[citysnaps]

Yeah yeah, the old of you don't like it leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Not that simple mate.

Separate politics from product is what we are asking , in this case the hypocrisy.

Let me sum it up for you, the product I'm the most proud of in my 2013 Mac Pro, it's had made in America , made of components mostly from china, but it's the principle , and I'm not American.

I'm happy to support greedy apple, fact, what I'm not happy is to be lectured about transgender, race , politics while TC bows to the Chinese in keynotes and ignores the injustice to the workers that make his products.

That is jobs was brilliant, its was about the products, now it's a bunch of fat execs playing celebrities and milking apple for what's it worth before retiring in huge sums. Defend them away but don't lecture me about how this is about me and many others willing to pay more for apple products.

Sorry, that simply doesn't wash. If you have strong views regarding how people in China are treated, but continue to purchase tech products from most tech manufacturers in the world who manufacturer there, then your views are not that strong and are simply coping out.

It's OK for you to look the other way and make exceptions because you crave those products, but apparently not the companies who make the products you crave.

Stand up for what you really believe in.

 

[MH01]

Sorry, that simply doesn't wash. If you have strong views regarding how people in China are treated, but continue to purchase tech products from most tech manufacturers in the world who manufacturer there, then your views are not that strong and are simply coping out.

It's OK for you to look the other way and make exceptions because you crave those products, but apparently not the companies who make the products you crave.

Stand up for what you really believe in.

Great argument there. If I believe in social, race, sex issues and I have strong believes, I should not buy anything from companies that manufacture in china..... /golf clap talk about moving the goal posts.

Have a good day.

 

[citysnaps]

Great argument there. If I believe in social, race, sex issues and I have strong believes, I should not buy anything from companies that manufacture in china..... /golf clap talk about moving the goal posts.

Have a good day.

Nope. Not at all.

You want others to take the moral high ground with respect to not manufacturing in China due to the country's weak human rights policies. But, taking that high ground is inconvenient for you, even with your strong views on that subject, and instead look the other way gladly purchasing those products produced and rewarding the companies that produce them with your pounds.

We're not talking about staples. They're electronics and gadgets.

 

[MH01]

Nope. Not at all.

You want others to take the moral high ground with respect to not manufacturing in China due to the country's weak human rights policies. But, taking that high ground is inconvenient for you, even with your strong views on that subject, and instead look the other way gladly purchasing those products produced and rewarding the companies that produce them with your pounds.

We're not talking about staples. They're electronics and gadgets.

I want the CEO of the company i have followed for years to focus on products! I don't want him to lecture me on issues he believes in and ignore china's blatant neglect. Clear?? its silly to suggest I stop buying products made in china. I also think Trump is a tool, does not mean I will not buy US products.....heck May I cannot stand...get off the high horse.

This is bickering and silly now.

 

[citysnaps]

I want the CEO of the company i have followed for years to focus on products! I don't want him to lecture me on issues he believes in and ignore china's blatant neglect. Clear?? its silly to suggest I stop buying products made in china. I also think Trump is a tool, does not mean I will not buy US products.....heck May I cannot stand...get off the high horse.

This is bickering and silly now.

How is Cook lecturing you? He's not. Nor is he lecturing the Chinese government, or even the UK's - he shouldn't be. Promoting (or lecturing on) human rights in other countries that have weak policies falls under the domain of the United States Secretary of State acting on behalf our government's foreign policy.

Imagine if Jack Ma (Ma Yun), a private private citizen and the CEO of Alibaba in China were to come to the US or UK and lecture about matters relating to how those governments behave if that behavior were at odds with China's policies. That would be the domain of China's Foreign Minister.

Cook, however, as a private citizen and CEO of a large United States company does have the right to bring about change in the US by speaking out on injustices here in the United States relating to equal rights for all people. I and many others support him on that. If you don't agree with his views on people in the United States being treated equally, that's OK.

It is absolutely not silly to refuse to support companies who do not operate in a manner that is consistent with your views on human rights. It's easy and incumbent upon you. It seems you don't want to make the effort due to convenience.

 

[0098386]

In other words, liberal policies are the problem.

How so?

 

[jblagden]

How so?

Schools - Ruled by Democrats

Regulations - often conceived by Democrats - or lobbyists who make sweetheart deals for corporations - either way, minimizing competition, thus minimizing capitalism.

Trade deals like NAFTA and TPP

Obamacare - squashed small businesses by forcing them to provide healthcare



Just a few things off the top of my head.

 

[0098386]

Schools - Ruled by Democrats

Regulations - often conceived by Democrats - or lobbyists who make sweetheart deals for corporations - either way, minimizing competition, thus minimizing capitalism.

Trade deals like NAFTA and TPP

Obamacare - squashed small businesses by forcing them to provide healthcare



Just a few things off the top of my head.

Hmm, those seem like stretches. Liberals want healthcare paid by taxes, as it's done in every first world nation.

What are you implying about schools, should they be abolished?

 

[jblagden]

Hmm, those seem like stretches. Liberals want healthcare paid by taxes, as it's done in every first world nation.

What are you implying about schools, should they be abolished?

1. We tried universal healthcare - didn’t work.

2. Schools - I’m not saying they should be abolished. The problem isn’t the schools, but rather the liberals running them. Admittedly, Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” legislation probably didn’t help much. Other than that, I really can’t pinpoint why the schools have declined.

 

[Mac32]

What else was he suppose to do? Go to China and trash them when all the phones are made there and all the manufacturing is cheapest there for consumer electronics and Apple wants to continue to work with the Chinese etc. etc. They don't have laws that protect businesses from the government as it relates to free speech.

Well, if Tim Cook shuts up about China, then he should shut up about USA. Otherwise, it's called "hypocrisy". Most people don't care about Tim's political opinions anyway, except for the virtue-signalling leftists living in their own echo chamber.

 

[Huntn]

Corporations mostly only care about profits so as a generalization, there is no such thing as a patriotic multinational corporation. They don't give a rip about whose standard of living they raise or lower while chasing profits. They can argue why it's good for the human race, but note they are the ones primarily benefiting from the wealth. The rest of us are their victims or receive their windfalls based on their business plan. Another reason why citizens need a Federsl Govt.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

I am amazed at some of the comments here. I guess many of them are to be expected given how polarised the US is at the moment.
As for China, I would merely ask those who criticise Tim Cook for going to China to do a bit of research and find out how much US Debt is actually owned by China. Then think what would happen if they forcelosed on it?
AFAIK, the USA would go down the swanee and your president would not be able to do anything about it.

You may have a dislike for globalisation but without foreign trade and the USA exporting stuff (you can keep that GM Corn) it can't afford to import raw materials it needs for its industry to employ people to make stuff to sell.
The whole thing is far more complex than most people realise. It is anything but simple.

How much money did china borrow from U.S. banks??!!! china was on it's knee's in the 1964 asking for the U.S. and Europe to save them from collapse!

 

[jblagden]

How much money did china borrow from U.S. banks??!!! china was on it's knee's in the 1964 asking for the U.S. and Europe to save them from collapse!

Ah, but how the tables have turned! Now the Chinese actually own $4.6 trillion of U.S. debt.