iOS and iPadOS are still full of micro stutters and random animation lag all over the place. No chip is gonna make up for apples software quality control problems.
lemme tell you a story about the very first iPad featuring the very first Apple silicon chip: the A4Correct me if I’m wrong, but when has the iPad EVER had the most advanced SOC when the iPhone (and now Mac) hasn’t?
I thought that rumor was VERY far-fetched, but… the M4 iPad Pro is real. Was there an issue with getting the M3 into it? Thermal problem? Battery?
far better package...alone if the M2 ipad pro had the new thermal architecture would be faster at peak and most in sustain performanceSo, 4+6 CPU cores, up from 4+4. 120 GiB/s memory bandwidth, up from 100.
Otherwise, a little unclear what if anything has changed. It's presumably a different TSMC process, but I presume each CPU, GPU, NE core is actually the same as before?
My understanding is that the thermal limit of the MBA is intentional - there are only so many watts of heat you can dump into a chassis sitting on a person's lap. I presume the iPad's special cooling is primarily to avoid the perception of hot spots?What I find interesting is that Apple put in decent cooling for the M4 SoC on the iPad Pro. Maybe that improved cooling will migrate to the eventual M4 MacBook Air model?
iPad sales have been struggling lately. I think this is intended to give the iPad lineup a little boost.don't understand why introduced in iPad, other than supply constraints (iPad is lower volume than MBA/P) ...
One less performance core not efficiencyI doubt if any users will notice having one less efficiency core.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when has the iPad EVER had the most advanced SOC when the iPhone (and now Mac) hasn’t?
lemme tell you a story about the very first iPad featuring the very first Apple silicon chip: the A4
and yes, it was released before the iPhone 4.
Not necessarily. Could still get 12GB of RAM standard when it comes to computers. /hopium.Meaning OLED for next Macbook Pros confirmed and 8 GB as base RAM, again?
Also the iPad 2 debuted the A5 almost 6 months before the iPhone 4Slemme tell you a story about the very first iPad featuring the very first Apple silicon chip: the A4
and yes, it was released before the iPhone 4.
I think it means baseless drivel.What do you think it means?
Moose law no longer exists.
It’s intended to save money. They’re dumping the far more expensive M3 as quickly as possible.iPad sales have been struggling lately. I think this is intended to give the iPad lineup a little boost.
I have an M1 Air with 8GB and the RAM more than anything else has blown my mind on this thing. I’d have apps stored in memory for weeks and they’d just be sitting there waiting for use.Not necessarily. Could still get 12GB of RAM standard when it comes to computers. /hopium.
No but seriously. It is entirely possible the 8GB config is only for the iPad Pros. It's far easier to multitask and use RAM on a computer vs an iPad so they could bump it to 12, and as we know, apple will be stingy wherever they can. We won't know until the M4 comes to actual computers. But this definitely doesn't help the speculation for it.
This was explained in the keynote – it's not a thermal or battery issue, it's that they needed the M4 with its new display controller to be able to drive the new Tandem OLED display.Was there an issue with getting the M3 into it? Thermal problem? Battery?
The cost difference won't be more than 10 bucks MAX per unit, though, surely?It’s intended to save money. They’re dumping the far more expensive M3 as quickly as possible.
These are propably running at lower GHz compared with what the laptops will use. So, they may have started with the iPads, but I expect more powerful M4's for the laptops.Shame it's wasted on the iPad Pro when they could whack it in the MBA/MBP right now. Might put the PC crowd to bed as well who think the Snapdragon Elite is going to bury the Mac.
it might be considerably more than that. N3B takes more patterning steps, which means considerably more time from wafer start to finished product. Economies of scale means shifting everything to N3E will also result in lower costs.The cost difference won't be more than 10 bucks MAX per unit, though, surely?
You are forgetting that iPads usually run at lower frequencies. So, unless that is unchanged also then this would apply.So if the M3 was 30% faster than M2 and the M4 is 50% faster than the M2, the M4 should be ~15% faster than the M3?
The development costs are billions for CPU's.The cost difference won't be more than 10 bucks MAX per unit, though, surely?
An M3 was supposed to cost, what, $40 per unit? Obviously bill of parts estimates can't be accurate, as it's just educated guessing. Apple said build costs in 2023 were less than 2022 I believe, so things aren't going too badly.it might be considerably more than that. N3B takes more patterning steps, which means considerably more time from wafer start to finished product. Economies of scale means shifting everything to N3E will also result in lower costs.
We’ll probably look back 5 years from now and comment how odd M3 was in terms of production lifespan.