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Correct me if I’m wrong, but when has the iPad EVER had the most advanced SOC when the iPhone (and now Mac) hasn’t?

I thought that rumor was VERY far-fetched, but… the M4 iPad Pro is real. Was there an issue with getting the M3 into it? Thermal problem? Battery?
lemme tell you a story about the very first iPad featuring the very first Apple silicon chip: the A4
and yes, it was released before the iPhone 4.
 
So, 4+6 CPU cores, up from 4+4. 120 GiB/s memory bandwidth, up from 100.

Otherwise, a little unclear what if anything has changed. It's presumably a different TSMC process, but I presume each CPU, GPU, NE core is actually the same as before?
far better package...alone if the M2 ipad pro had the new thermal architecture would be faster at peak and most in sustain performance
 
What I find interesting is that Apple put in decent cooling for the M4 SoC on the iPad Pro. Maybe that improved cooling will migrate to the eventual M4 MacBook Air model?
My understanding is that the thermal limit of the MBA is intentional - there are only so many watts of heat you can dump into a chassis sitting on a person's lap. I presume the iPad's special cooling is primarily to avoid the perception of hot spots?
 
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when has the iPad EVER had the most advanced SOC when the iPhone (and now Mac) hasn’t?

lemme tell you a story about the very first iPad featuring the very first Apple silicon chip: the A4
and yes, it was released before the iPhone 4.

The iPad 3 also had the A5X - which was quite a bit more powerful than the A5 in the iPhone 4S at the time.
 
Meaning OLED for next Macbook Pros confirmed and 8 GB as base RAM, again?
Not necessarily. Could still get 12GB of RAM standard when it comes to computers. /hopium.

No but seriously. It is entirely possible the 8GB config is only for the iPad Pros. It's far easier to multitask and use RAM on a computer vs an iPad so they could bump it to 12, and as we know, apple will be stingy wherever they can. We won't know until the M4 comes to actual computers. But this definitely doesn't help the speculation for it.
 
Not necessarily. Could still get 12GB of RAM standard when it comes to computers. /hopium.

No but seriously. It is entirely possible the 8GB config is only for the iPad Pros. It's far easier to multitask and use RAM on a computer vs an iPad so they could bump it to 12, and as we know, apple will be stingy wherever they can. We won't know until the M4 comes to actual computers. But this definitely doesn't help the speculation for it.
I have an M1 Air with 8GB and the RAM more than anything else has blown my mind on this thing. I’d have apps stored in memory for weeks and they’d just be sitting there waiting for use.

I remember reading a BBC News article on something, and forgot about it. A few weeks later I was messing around on the iPad and viewed all open apps. I tapped on the BBC app. Not only did it take me to the article I had open, but to the exact part of the article I was reading.
 
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Interesting to see that the M4 still has Thunderbolt 4 controller on board. I was hoping for Thunderbolt 5. Maybe they will add that to the desktop/laptop versions of M4?

Also, I think there is a realistic chance that Apple will announce the M4 Studio at WWDC. Why? Because they certainly wouldn't announce new Macbooks at that event and what else could they announce in terms of hardware? Also, if they won't announce any hardware at all, wouldn't it be quite strange to unveil the M4 early May and the next M4 related news only almost half a year later (at the typical annual October or early November Apple hardware event)? Fingers crossed that the M4 Studio is incoming soon!
 
So if the M3 was 30% faster than M2 and the M4 is 50% faster than the M2, the M4 should be ~15% faster than the M3?
 
Shame it's wasted on the iPad Pro when they could whack it in the MBA/MBP right now. Might put the PC crowd to bed as well who think the Snapdragon Elite is going to bury the Mac.
These are propably running at lower GHz compared with what the laptops will use. So, they may have started with the iPads, but I expect more powerful M4's for the laptops.
 
The cost difference won't be more than 10 bucks MAX per unit, though, surely?
it might be considerably more than that. N3B takes more patterning steps, which means considerably more time from wafer start to finished product. Economies of scale means shifting everything to N3E will also result in lower costs.

We’ll probably look back 5 years from now and comment how odd M3 was in terms of production lifespan.
 
So if the M3 was 30% faster than M2 and the M4 is 50% faster than the M2, the M4 should be ~15% faster than the M3?
You are forgetting that iPads usually run at lower frequencies. So, unless that is unchanged also then this would apply.
 
it might be considerably more than that. N3B takes more patterning steps, which means considerably more time from wafer start to finished product. Economies of scale means shifting everything to N3E will also result in lower costs.

We’ll probably look back 5 years from now and comment how odd M3 was in terms of production lifespan.
An M3 was supposed to cost, what, $40 per unit? Obviously bill of parts estimates can't be accurate, as it's just educated guessing. Apple said build costs in 2023 were less than 2022 I believe, so things aren't going too badly.
 
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