Apple Demands Microsoft Pull Laptop Hunter Ads

[Macminiintel]

for a start who would believe anything Micro$oft say, the entire company is built on lie upon lie. I mean they even say about I.E 8, "Make your web even better", erm more like worser. Safari and firefox the best browsers on the planet.

The next lie they say is "windows vista, most secure windows ever". LOL yeah right more like the least secure, its about the same as xp with very little difference.

Then there are the laptop hunter ads, who on earth would be stupid enough to believe anything they say in it. I mean they even insult there own users in one of the ads and saying "I'm just not cool enough to be a mac person". This to me seems like a last attempt from Microsoft, because they know they can't beat Apple on quality, design and ease of use. All the MS ads say to me is "yes Macs are better, but we are cheaper". Just like the VHS V Betamax war in the 80s, Betamax was the much superior product, but everyone went with VHS, for its cheapness.

The adverts they made are a joke, I highly doubt they would work, at the end of the day when you buy a Mac it runs OS X, when you buy a PC it runs windows thats why its cheaper, because of all the viruses, trojans, slow downs etc, etc

 

[LethalWolfe]

Okay I am not an apple fan boy, but thanks for the insult. My point is I see the ads as misleading. If you don't then just say so and state why you dont have to pick a fight with me. I am simply expressing my opinion thats all no more. I understand advertising, but I just feel that it is a little (perhaps not illegally so) misleading thats all. If you disagree fine.

I didn't call you a fan boy. I said you are approaching fan boy territory if you get all up in arms about MS for their 'misleading ads' and you don't get equally up in arms about other company's misleading ads (including Apple's).

To put it simply. If you dislike misleading ads in general you probably aren't a fan boy. If you dislike only misleading ads that paint Apple in a poor light you are probably a fan boy.

Of course, all ads are inherently misleading to some degree. I mean, do companies spend equal time advertising both the positive and negative aspects of their products? Of course not. The purpose of advertising is to make people want what you are selling not to drive them away.


Lethal

 

[nüb]

I don't see why this is all such a big deal. Yeah Macs are more expensive than PCs... you get what you pay for. It's like trying to compare a BMW with a Ford, you could advertise all day about how much cheaper and better (in the terms of mpg/storage capacity) the Ford is, but at the end of the day anyone with half a brain knows that if you have the cash you get the bimmer.

You know what's funny about this??

http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=136731

The chick (and her heavy mom?) are standing in front of a bimmer.

 

[pika2000]

A letter is probably the correct form of communication... but do you really think Apple wants Microsoft to have a letter from them asking for the ads to be stopped? That would be the wallpaper on every MS office in the world over a few days. Great motivational poster

Apple lawyers has no problems sending C&D letters to people.Whether it would be made a wallpaper or not, that's irrelevant. Businesses' lawyers would not just make a personal call for something like this.

 

[zeromeus]

Not surprised!!!

You guys are missing the point -- the recent commercials were quoting specs/prices/whatever about Macs *before* the latest refresh. They were misrepresenting the current line of Macbooks.

Some friends and I had seen the commercial recently and thought the same thing -- "Microsoft is talking about OLD Apple Macbooks?! Not cool!"

OF COURSE Microsoft's ads would be about OLD Apple Macbooks! People don't just create ads on the spot and air them the same day. They have to be recorded, edited, and a whole lot of streamlining. So of course these ads would include old macs as they were made BEFORE the mac refreshed. Therefore, at the time the ad was videotaped, those prices and models were current. Yes, Microsoft aired them late, but why waste money redoing something just because your competitor decides to change a little....

I'm a dual OS user with many different desktops and laptops, so I don't feel that I should need to defend anyone or any company as I always go with the product that I feel suits my needs better. For example: With what I do, the PC serves me MUCH better when I need to get things done. However, for ease of use, I use a mac. I'm planning to install windows 7 on all my macs once they come out. Too bad I can't legally install OSX on my PCs as they are much more powerful than my iMac and MacBook.

 

[bretm]

Good point... I didn't think that way I guess because I have a mac lol...

Yeah, but I watch youtube videos of osx running on $250 acer netbooks and I just drool.

 

[LagunaSol]

No, but the screen on the MacBook Pro will have so much glare that you'll wish it had the screen on the HP.

I have an HP laptop to my left and a glossy-screened iMac in front of me. I'd choose the iMac.

 

[jav6454]

OF COURSE Microsoft's ads would be about OLD Apple Macbooks! People don't just create ads on the spot and air them the same day. They have to be recorded, edited, and a whole lot of streamlining. So of course these ads would include old macs as they were made BEFORE the mac refreshed. Therefore, at the time the ad was videotaped, those prices and models were current. Yes, Microsoft aired them late, but why waste money redoing something just because your competitor decides to change a little....

I'm a dual OS user with many different desktops and laptops, so I don't feel that I should need to defend anyone or any company as I always go with the product that I feel suits my needs better. For example: With what I do, the PC serves me MUCH better when I need to get things done. However, for ease of use, I use a mac. I'm planning to install windows 7 on all my macs once they come out. Too bad I can't legally install OSX on my PCs as they are much more powerful than my iMac and MacBook.

Because then its false advertising and there are laws against that. If you want to compete in this world, you gotta stay current. If you can't make a TV ad and air it to counter your rival on time, then you should really re-examine what the hell are you doing. Specially someone like MS who can spend $300 Million off the bat.

 

[ikir]

MS ads are misleading but sure they can do what they want until they keep telling the right prices. Then a person with a brain know that laptop in these ads are lacking a lot o thing. I see a chart comparing a Mac and a Pc, under HDMI PC had "Yes" and Mac "None".... and what about MiniDisplay Port? LOL

 

[LagunaSol]

Yes, Microsoft aired them late, but why waste money redoing something just because your competitor decides to change a little....

Because you are obligated to be accurate at the time of airing?

 

[bretm]

Yeah, but I watch youtube videos of osx running on $250 acer netbooks and I just drool.

And further along those lines... isn't it kind of ironic that Apple touts that it's the user friendly consumer computer and Windows is always thought of as a good business computer. BUT Apple's designs are high end, industrial and nearly too expensive for the general public, yet windows business machines cost a fraction of apple's machines. And to top it off, Apple, the consumer computer company continually refuses to make a cheap "junk" computer. It really doesn't make sense. They want to be the "hub" yet they price themselves out of that market.

 

[NAG]

Since when is a netbook a hub?

 

[themcbrooms]

This whole discussion is just retarded in so many ways. Most of the laptops out there are no different then any others, except for some basic hardware. Which a PC laptop and a Mac laptop can share the same.

The ONLY difference is the operating system, people may not buy a mac simply cause they don't like the operating system and vice versa.

The way they're portrayed in the commercials are simply for the ignorant consumers out there. Anyone with a brain in their head will look at what the laptop can actually do and do it well. Some things a PC can do better and some things a Mac can do better. It's a battle that'll never end until one buys out the other.

See, I cant believe not one person so far has mentioned the Mac uni-body, the 8 hour battery, the standard LED back lit screens, the standard DDR3 ram, Glass track pad with multi-touch...etc. These are just a FEW of the things you can't get with the 700.00 plastic walmart PC. The Mac price is justified, and the old adage is still true, "you get what you pay for". Please STOP regurgitating that "Macs are more", and "The hardware is the same expect for the OS". While the OS is enough of a reason to "pay more", it's not the only thing that makes a Mac more than worth the price! As someone said earlier, pound for pound there is NO price difference. Anyone with logic and a calculator can figure this out. It is the the vitriol of the MS fan boys (who don't even know enough about Apple or a Mac to begin with) that and end up stating, "Macs are overpriced", "Apple Tax", etc. The 90's talking points are getting old as well.

 

[agendum]

Just HP ads

Did I get it wrong or did every person choose a HP laptop?

Maybe HP is the best in class outside a Mac or maybe they are the cheapest competitor, but it doesn't do anything for the contention that there are option"s" other than Mac.

Really, what happened was that Microsoft co-opted HP into the campaign and HP's stipulation was that the consumers could choose any laptop, as long as it was an HP.

 

[brianbobcat]

Exactly!

You guys are missing the point -- the recent commercials were quoting specs/prices/whatever about Macs *before* the latest refresh. They were misrepresenting the current line of Macbooks.

Some friends and I had seen the commercial recently and thought the same thing -- "Microsoft is talking about OLD Apple Macbooks?! Not cool!"

Didn't Apple up the RAM and drop the price thi slast refresh. I don't think anyone here would say a Mac is cheaper than a PC, at least the initial costs, but yes compare specs and uses truthfully. One of the post-production blogs discussed the "filmmaker" ad. The lady complained about "only 2gb of RAM" and the blogger/editor said what'swromg with "only" 2GB of RAM. He also had other facts to back him up, but both of us are running Final Cut Pro on MacBook Pros with that same 2GB doing just fine for us. Heck, I've even run Motion on my laptop. I really want to make my own ad in a Vest Buy or Frys just like MS and show in what cases the Macs come out on top.

-Brian

 

[spidermitch]

Yeah, well--and this is a true story--Mark Spitz called up Kevin Turner the other day and demanded his mustache back! So you know it's working when Kevin's 'stache even creeps out Mark Spitz!!

WTF does he think he is?? JC this Kevin is a piece of work. He even admits that he thought it was a joke. What a d-bag.

 

[djgamble]

What I don't understand is why Microsoft are trying to sell computers for manufactures when they don't even make them. Sure, they get a license fee but surely they get that in advance anyway.

So Microsoft's whole point behind these ads are moot anyway.

Well yeah... Macs are technically PC's.

M$' ads are a bit like Microsoft making an ad campaign where they say "don't buy Dells, they're more expensive than HP's!" And highlighting cases where Dells cost more money...

Since Macs run windows I would have thought M$ would be better off saying "hey! Windows runs on everything... if you like Apple's design, why not buy Windows as well?"

 

[Mebsat]

Kevin Turner sure does sound like a tool.

He doesn't just SOUND like a tool.....

 

[opeter]

A PC with a 2.66GHz Quad Core is probably more expensive than a PC with a 1.2 GHz Pentium 4...my point is mac is a higher end machine and the price difference is not that different if you compare it to a higher end windows machine. And again...I dont want to have to defend myself. If you think that you dont have to direct it at me.

Uhhmm... there was no Pentium 4 with 1.2 GHz (only Pentium III Tualatin).

Pentium 4 (Willamaette) started with 1.4 GHz and 1.5 GHz CPUs if I remember correctly, sometimes at the end of 2000.

 

[iEdd]

He doesn't just SOUND like a tool.....

lol he looks like a sleazy realto.

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

Apple wants people to know the truth. Microsoft wants to massively ripoff people with their monopoly-marketed Windows. I'm beginning to think the MS executive team are all .... use your imagination. First Ballmer claiming Apple will never succeed, now the iPhone is dominating the smartphone market with more apps than all the other platforms combined. Now Kevin Turner probably telling fibs about how the Apple legal department admitting that MS is telling the truth (when have the words Microsoft and truth ever been used in a sentence without the word not?). Focus on getting the majority of IT admins across US to adopt your Windows 7 and get a real OS name. XP, Vista... etc.

Note to MS: Apple's MacBook Pro ran Vista the best in 2007, when your entire marketfull of hardware vendors were scrambling to develop working (not quality, but just barely working) drivers. Yea, compatibility my (insert word). You're standing on a thin piece of wood called XP. For nearly 10 years without anything new. Stop trying to draw attention to yourselves by saying how Apple admits that you're telling the truth.

 

[BergerFan]

Riiiight. If you seriously think this you need to take a step back 'cause you are seriously approaching Apple fan-boy territory. Every person that has ever advertised anything has put their product in the best light possible and their competitors product in poor light (assuming a head-to-head type comparison).

All's fair in love and war.

 

[djellison]

Apple has been telling bare faced lies in it's "I'm a mac" adverts for years.

Payback's a bitch.

 

[slb]

Why are we all blindly accepting Kevin Turner's portrayal of the phone call?

 

[str1f3]

What are you talking about. I am not questioning whether they are scripted or not. I could care less of that.

If he is willing to lie about one thing, is it not possible to lie about another?
Especially when it is the same speech within a couple of sentences of each other?
While talking to Microsoft's partners?

See where I'm going yet?
Or do I have to bust out Keynote for you?