All the professionals who use HDMI cables when presenting in corporate environments would disagree with you. USB-C cables aren't very prevalent and HDMI adapters can cause problems.
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Apple Developing Thinner MacBook Pro, Apple Watch, and iPhone
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If you're not aware MBP moved from Intel to Apple Silicon almost 4 years ago.
14nm to 5nm and now 3nm CPUs.
Or a set of lenses on the back that have to be protected from scratching. Yes, like every other phone, but what an aesthetic disaster.
I thought using the iPhone without a case would be a status symbol—"I've got so much money, I don't have to worry about destroying this $1,000 pocket computer." Who are the only people I ever see without an iPhone case? The characters on AppleTV+ shows! Everyone else HAS to use a case, not to avoid scratches but because an iPhone is slicker than a wet bar of Irish Spring.
A thinner and lighter MBP would be cool IF it doesn’t affect the fans and hdmi port. No dongles!!
Yes. And I'm also aware that the M-Max chips run hot and any MacBook Pro redesign has to support the fastest version of that chip.
There's already a MacBook Air if I care about thickness. I don't care, so I don't own one. I care about performance and durability. Weight is also not really an issue with the current lineup. I've been using this 2021 MBP for nearly three years. No hiccups. No problems, and yes, unfortunately I have dropped if a couple times over the years. Seems somewhat unavoidable. I'd rather they keep this form factor, then move to something more delicate solely for bragging rights against the competition.
Sorry Apple but STOP IT!
Apole users already pay a huge penalty in cooling, battery size, structural integrity, etc due to Apple’s obsession with thin! Making it thinner does not Always make it better. Just because you can does not mean you should!
Apole users already pay a huge penalty in cooling, battery size, structural integrity, etc due to Apple’s obsession with thin! Making it thinner does not Always make it better. Just because you can does not mean you should!
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What's missing from the MacBook lineup is a thin and light with 'Pro' like displays/features, but without the power heavy chips. I don't get the concept that only 'pros' would want or need an upgraded, higher-end display.
I would love an 'AirPro' (or whatever name they'd come up with) thin and light MacBook with a microLED or OLED display and the Space Black color option with just USB-C ports on both sides.
The current pros are indeed too heavy and bulky for those of us who do not need the extra power or additional ports, but want better displays and maybe more memory options. And please, Apple, make 5G an option. Tethering off an iPhone is fine in a pinch, but not ideal for long term use.
These are very easy ways to upsell and widen their margins for the MacBook line for those of us willing to pay for it. I think a thin an light MacBook with an OLED display and 5G would fly off the shelves.
I would love an 'AirPro' (or whatever name they'd come up with) thin and light MacBook with a microLED or OLED display and the Space Black color option with just USB-C ports on both sides.
The current pros are indeed too heavy and bulky for those of us who do not need the extra power or additional ports, but want better displays and maybe more memory options. And please, Apple, make 5G an option. Tethering off an iPhone is fine in a pinch, but not ideal for long term use.
These are very easy ways to upsell and widen their margins for the MacBook line for those of us willing to pay for it. I think a thin an light MacBook with an OLED display and 5G would fly off the shelves.
The iPhone camera array doesn't bother me from a design point of view, but then again I also understand that decent phone cameras require larger lenses. I'm also seldom looking at the back of the phone. I also used a Zagg London Snap case, which really isn't all that thick so the cameras don't protrude; it also reduces the phone wobbling when placed on a flat surface because the slightly raised camera surround stretches across the back of the phone more.
I have a Max chip in a 14-inch chassis which is considered the worst heat-wise, I also had a 15" MBP with an Intel i7. The statement "Max chip runs hot" is a huge exaggeration (I blame YouTubers for this), even during a sustained heavy workload it does not even come close to Intel's in terms of heat and noise. Most of the time in heavier tasks it just gets a bit warm to the touch before it even spins up the fans.
The only device that needs to get thinner is the watch
But the "thin" trend may not happen. Reason: the 2027 EU mandate that portable electronic devices include user-replaceable battery packs. That could result in thicker iPhones, iPads and MacBook models because all will require the back of the device have user-replaceable battery packs like what Samsung did with the older Galaxy S cellphone models. I can see Apple devices by 2027 going to composite structural materials so it could include such battery packs without sacrificing weight.
Yes, the fastest M3-Max runs hot; not nearly as bad as the Intels but each generation of M has gotten hotter, and this thinner redesign is going to have to support the M8-Max. Exporting a large video project on the 14" M3-Max will have its fans spinning pretty loudly; reducing its thickness is only going to amplify the issue.
I think we're on the cusp of seeing new battery tech in these devices...
arstechnica.com
TDK claims insane energy density in solid-state battery breakthrough
Apple supplier says new tech has 100 times the capacity of its current batteries.
arstechnica.com
Exactly. Thinner will not doubt lead to throttling issues and likely the dropping of ports users have been clamoring for for years.
All three Max chips are basically the same architecture, only the M4 is a true successor on a true 3nm process that is running a lot cooler and more efficient.
that’s exciting, thin and light tech is awesome … loved the screen size of my 12 pro max yet was too heavy for one handed use
And the fact that the M2 was a faster version of the M1 is the reason why it ran hotter. But only thinking of the M4 is shortsighted; this thinner design is going to have to support the M5-Max through the M8 or M9-Max, each of which will be a faster, and therefore hotter, versions of the previous chip. It's possible we will see a true successor to the M4 in the M8 or M9, but if not those chips will run even hotter than the M4.
I have thinner and lighter gathering dust in my office. An emoji keyboard macbook pro. Keyboard is basically unusable for any serious writing. And I bought the 'improved' model after they added 'extra sealing' around the keys.
So you'll excuse me if i think they're insane to try again.
And if you're dreaming of technical solutions for lower power consumption... my M3 pro mbpro is at about 5 W now when I type this answer. I've seen it go as low as 3.7. How much lower do you think they can go?
It's more likely that they'll go for smaller components and **** up something again.
If they ever do create an invincible iPhone, let’s hope they spread that tech to other industries- if we are just listing silly impossibilities: I think I’d like a car that can’t be damaged in an accident.
It's unreasonable to think that the lower nanometer process will get hotter, that's just not how it works. Quite the opposite, the M4 chip proves so.