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Apple Developing Thinner MacBook Pro, Apple Watch, and iPhone

SactoGuy18 said:
But the "thin" trend may not happen. Reason: the 2027 EU mandate that portable electronic devices include user-replaceable battery packs. That could result in thicker iPhones, iPads and MacBook models because all will require the back of the device have user-replaceable battery packs like what Samsung did with the older Galaxy S cellphone models. I can see Apple devices by 2027 going to composite structural materials so it could include such battery packs without sacrificing weight.
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Technically all they need to do is to make the battery screwed in (2009-2012 MacBooks, modern PC laptops) rather than glued in and make the battery packs available for purchase separately (they currently require a full top case replacement); not much is going to change regarding the weight and materials.
 
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As long as the battery life doesnt suffer and the thermals dont suffer I am kinda all for it. A lighter iphone would be nice and the laptops are pretty heavy. It seems with the new ipads battery is great and thermals are better than ever so it seems they can likely do the same across products.
 
IchabodCricket said:
AirPlay is only in Apple-dominated businesses. The only Apple devices my company (healthcare) has is the iPhone. Everything else is PC, and it's like that in every hospital in my region.

Once Windows has native AirPlay, perhaps. How am I going to AirPlay my Excel sheet from my Dell to a projector?
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I work in media/creative so everybody and everything is mac/iOS based or cloud based
 
For the MacBook Pro, they could make the upper lid thinner with OLED, and the bottom case thinner by replacing HDMI with another USB-C port.

But PLEASE don't lose deep key travel on the keyboard! It's already too shallow as it is!
 
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poematik13 said:
This lol. HDMI is not necessary. An extra TB port is way more praftical.

It sucks that the average user is not able to understand that USB-C to HDMI or DP cables have existed for years.
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It sucks that you don't understand how large corporations work. I can't replaced the HDMI cable in whatever conference room in the different buildings that our meeting happens to be in with a USBC cable without HR having a stern conversation with me. Adapters have proven to be unreliable.
 
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DHagan4755 said:
It seemed obvious to me that the MacBook Pro would be thinned out. The current design is good. But when the iPad Pro M4 was announced the only question that crossed my mind was if it was happening this year or in 2025.

As far as the watch goes, it would be nice if Apple made a round watch. It would entice me to buy one because right now square watches don’t do it for me.
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Problem is that I and many others want the Pro to actually remain focused on Pro functions. Keep the ports, keep the battery life and keep the performance. I would much rather they add an M.2 port internally to allow expansion vs just making it thinner. Making the laptop thinner should be more focused on the Air line, and maybe just a Macbook line if they ever bring back that.
 
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darngooddesign said:
So you think the M8 Max wont run hotter than the M4 Max?
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Absolutely. I don't know what the temperature of the processor cores itself will be like inside (which doesn't matter much), but the entire envelope will be cooler, I have no doubt about that.
 
pksv said:
Absolutely. I don't know what the temperature of the processor cores itself will be like inside (which doesn't matter much), but the entire envelope will be cooler, I have no doubt about that.
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Has there been an example of a much more powerful version of the same chip (same architecture, same nm process size) running cooler?
 
Oh no, not this again. You would think apple would learn from the past. Who makes these decisions anyway???
 
Only device that actually needs to be thinner is the Apple Watch. But then again, the battery life on the watch is already a joke so probably not
 
darngooddesign said:
Has there been an example of a much more powerful version of the same chip (same architecture, same nm process size) running cooler?
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So it's not the same chip, isn't it? M8 Max will be on a smaller nm process size than M4 Max, that's 100% certain.
 
aroom said:
if you can't see the advantages of having thunderbolt 4 port instead of a specific one, I can't argue with you.

your dongle hell is my dongle paradise. I can use my machine for multiple purpose. It's all about modularity.

but we know that Apple doesn't care that much about the pro segment anyway.
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And you can still do all that with the 3 other ports that STILL EXIST on the machine. I use HDMI all the time one mine and don't want to deal with dongles for it...
 
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I'd love to get a thinner MBP please! i've been holding back from getting the M1 ones because of how thick they look.
 
Here we go again...

They did make this generation of MacBook Pro thicker to not compromise on thermal performance in the way that the entire previous generation did. Otherwise why are they not just doing this to the MacBook Air? Why do we have an entire lineup of devices around the idea that they're "light as Air" only to have them be heavier than the higher-end models the entire point of which is performance is the primary objective?

iPhones needn't be thinner unless they come with a case. Period.

Make the Apple watch as thin as you like though. Whatevs.
 
darngooddesign said:
You didn't read what you replied to.
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Has there been an example of a much more powerful version of the same chip (same architecture, same nm process size) running cooler?
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So what exactly do you mean by a "more powerful version of the same chip"? If it's truly the same chip with the same architecture and nm process the only way to make it a more powerful, a "more powerful version" is by increasing the clock speed which increases heat - that's just how physics works. If there are any other changes in that chip, then it's not the same chip, simple.
 
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So what exactly do you mean by a "more powerful version" of the same chip? If it's truly the same chip with the same architecture and nm process the only way to make it a more powerful, "more powerful version" is by increasing the clock speed which increases heat - that's just how physics works. If there are any other changes in that chip, then it's not the same chip, simple.
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Thats been my point the whole time. Faster versions of the M4 (M5, M6, etc.) will run hotter and be more demanding of a cooling system which would be compromised by a thinner chassis.

Make the Airs thinner and lighter, but don't "thinner at any cost" the MBPs.
 
SpotOnT said:
Having an HDMI port does not mean taking away a Thunderbolt port. You realize there’s enough room on the machine for many many more ports, right?
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But that’s how they executed it. You need the bandwidth somewhere
 
kuito said:
If you want light and capable you get the mb air. If you need a powerhouse of a machine with great battery.. you get the MacBook Pro.

I would hate to lose any ports (again) on the mbp, and the battery is superb.

I love going on two-three day trips where bringing charger may not be necessary, but I can still get a couple decent work sessions in.
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Where’s the one with moderate performance and great display panel?
 
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