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Apple Discontinues 20" Cinema Display, Product Refreshes Coming?

interface for legacy MacBook Pros

With the demise of the Cinema displays and the move to go to LED displays, will there ever be an interface to support the DVI interface on the previous generation MacBook Pros? My understanding is that the miniDV is the only interface available for the LED Displays and that interface is only supported on the newest notebooks.

Does anyone know if a supplemental interface will be made available for those of us who don't have the latest MacBook Pro?
 
Tallest Skil said:
No, it won't.

32GB flash drives are only slightly more than 50GB Blu-ray disks right now.

By this time next year, 64GB flash drives will be cheaper than a 50GB Blu-ray disk.

In 2012, it will be a trifling thing to pop a Super Hi-Vision movie and special features onto a 512GB flash drive and sell them instead of disks.

It'd save a lot of space on store shelves, I'll tell you.
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I concur. In fact, as most if not all distribution goes as a split between Internet and the mail, high capacity flash drives will probably end up being the only medium for mass distribution. There's no valid reason why Blu-ray disc even exists, except to rekindle the 5" platter form factor. I imagine that the Video Store/ Netflicks distribution model can't use the rinky dinky flashdrive form factor as it doesn't 'shelf' as easily, not can you mass market flash readers ( Think Best Buys ) as easily as you can a traditional player. People are used to the klunky VCR form factor :(
 
SactoGuy18 said:
I think Apple will likely offer new Cinema Display models with these specs:

1) 20", 24" and 30" sizes
2) LED backlighting on all models
3) Full eight-bit color display
4) 1680x1050 resolution for 20", 1920x1200 resolution for 24", 2560x1600 resolution for 30" models
5) Both DVI-D and Mini DisplayPort connectors with full HDCP support
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+ HDMI and a pro line with ...
 
How about this idea?:

Apple introduces 20" and 24" consumer Cinema Displays with TN panels but with very fast response times and for a lot cheaper than professional Cinema Displays.

Apple then introduces professional Cinema Displays (24" and 30") that are pro and and are on par with Eizo and NEC.

Two categories of displays.
 
kabunaru said:
How about this idea?:

Apple introduces 20" and 24" consumer Cinema Displays with TN panels but with very fast response times and for a lot cheaper than professional Cinema Displays.

Apple then introduces professional Cinema Displays (24" and 30") that are pro and and are on par with Eizo and NEC.

Two categories of displays.
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It would be nice if Apple finally gave us a display to go with the mini that didn't cost as much as the computer itself. I just don't see it happening...
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
That's never going to happen.
What's more likely is we'll just download movies. There will never be a market for buying movies in flash drives.
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You're exactly right, BUT, U.S. broadband speeds will not be able to keep up with the size of movies.

In terms of speed/price.

And with ISPs capping bandwidth, you'd get three movies a month. Two if you ever did any browsing.
 
Tallest Skil said:
You're exactly right, BUT, U.S. broadband speeds will not be able to keep up with the size of movies.

In terms of speed/price.

And with ISPs capping bandwidth, you'd get three movies a month. Two if you ever did any browsing.
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I thought we were talking about the future... things can change. I'm sure ISPs would just start charging on a per 50GB basis, or per something. And I don't think anyone would really mind if movies weren't quite blu-ray quality. I'm sure a 10GB film looks pretty damn good.
 
kabunaru said:
How about this idea?:

Apple introduces 20" and 24" consumer Cinema Displays with TN panels but with very fast response times and for a lot cheaper than professional Cinema Displays.

Apple then introduces professional Cinema Displays (24" and 30") that are pro and and are on par with Eizo and NEC.

Two categories of displays.
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I really really REALLY love this idea, and was thinking about this very same exact thing right before the 20" happened to disappear.

Lets say Apple releases a new Mac Mini next month. What better way to compliment it with new, affordable 20" consumer grade TN Apple displays. Apple could market a new Mini and display for under $1000 and I would be one happy ass camper.

Besides I don't do any serious graphics work and that is not my line of profession, so cheaper 20" TN displays would be adequate and sufficient enough for my needs.
 
Icaras said:
I really really REALLY love this idea, and was thinking about this very same exact thing right before the 20" happened to disappear.

Lets say Apple releases a new Mac Mini next month. What better way to compliment it with new, affordable 20" consumer grade TN Apple displays. Apple could market a new Mini and display for under $1000 and I would be one happy ass camper.

Besides I don't do any serious graphics work and that is not my line of profession, so cheaper 20" TN displays would be adequate and sufficient enough for my needs.
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This was the hopes and dreams of users back when the previous ACDs were out. $1299 for a 20" was crazy money and even a few months ago people were hoping for it.

The problem is that a "cheap" "consumer" product just isn't Apple's motif. The most you are going to get is the iPod Shuffle and MacMini, and the mini is still a bit niche and over priced compared to other offerings..... nothing that small of course.

Basically, Apple making a lower end $300 TN panel display will happen the day Apple makes a $600 full sized laptop and mini tower.

Also, if Dell is using e-IPS panels in a 22" monitor for around $300 I know Apple doesn't have to insult us with TN.

Other than that, I agree 100%. I'd love to just grab a run of the mill panel for viewing text and doing non color specific work.
 
kabunaru said:
2. Just what is so bad about bigger pixels? I think it would be better because it would be easier to read.
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You're asking for the wrong thing. The problem (in the OS that I'm familiar with. I was considering apple next, though) is not that the pixels would be too small, but that the UI depends on fixed pixel sizes, especially text-flow in modal dialogs; you can resize the fonts, but some dialogs end up with important text cut off or overlapping stupidly.

That's the bit that needs to be fixed. I want crystal clear sharp pictures, and super sharp text. I currently still use a CRT monitor. I can pick any resolution I want if the text is too small, but why should I have to?

There's no reason we should be stuck with the same font decisions made when 320x240 and two banks of four colors was a big deal. Make the pixels smaller and use more of 'em.

Anyway, this does affect my decision, so I'm a bit disappointed to hear that Mac has the same problems here.
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
It would be nice if Apple finally gave us a display to go with the mini that didn't cost as much as the computer itself. I just don't see it happening...
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Um, hasn't the mini been "bring your own screen/keyboard/mouse" since its introduction?

Whats forcing you to buy apple displays?
 
NT1440 said:
Um, hasn't the mini been "bring your own screen/keyboard/mouse" since its introduction?

Whats forcing you to buy apple displays?
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Though if you do want a matching Apple monitor, he does have a point about the price. They should have kept the 20" monitor and made it cheaper, so it's a match for the the Mini.

I really wish I had bought a 23" ACD before last October..
 
Sadly, i dont think theres going to be an upgrade, but if their is, maybe we'll start saeeing LED screens
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