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With that being said, Apple discontinues iPhone every year, but provide generally 4-5 years of active iOS support. So I’m a bit optimistic on that one.

Yeah, perhaps?
The iPhone is such "its own thing" and "everything!" for Apple, so I don't know what to draw from that product
 
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Am I reading this right?
16gb/1tb has proven to not be enough for you?
Yeah you read that right.
16GB has proven to be insufficient for latest version of photoshop (lots of stutter and lag) compared to a 2 year old version, at least for me. I’m still using a technically outdated photoshop just so I can get work done with good experience. And safari reloads page quite often claiming page using “too much memory”, though I suspect safari is the one to blame, not the RAM.

As for 1TB of storage, I cannot store all my cloud files, photo library and iTunes library internally with 1TB of storage. I need minimum of 4TB, ideally 8-12TB, but those MacBook models are going to literally cost me an arm and a leg. People will ask “why not external storage?” Well I can’t even make sure the permanently attached nvme drive survive the connection stability test when I also need to move my MacBook around from time to time. I almost lost my data during that whole experience.
 
People will ask “why not external storage?” Well I can’t even make sure the permanently attached nvme drive survive the connection stability test when I also need to move my MacBook around from time to time. I almost lost my data during that whole experience.

I had a similar issue when I first tested out using an M1 Mac Mini with a couple externals

I would get random issues and disconnects -- just infuriating, especially on a desktop that should have an extra storage slot (or just way way less expensive component upgrades)

It took me a couple days to return it and realize that would never work for me (externals strewn about)
 
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I had a similar issue when I first tested out using an M1 Mac Mini with a couple externals

I would get random issues and disconnects -- just infuriating, especially on a desktop that should have an extra storage slot (or just way way less expensive component upgrades)

It took me a couple days to return it and realize that would never work for me (externals strewn about)
could it be Apple intentionally make permanent external storage unstable for folks who wants to save money, thus nudging them to buy crazy expensive internal storage? I don’t know. Felt disingenuous but it is Apple we are talking about after all.

There’s also a chance of the port quality being bad, but again Apple didn’t really push their “superior lightning design” to USB consortium either, otherwise we’d all benefit from lightning design which so many people tout “superior” over USB-C port.
 
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could it be Apple intentionally make permanent external storage unstable for folks who wants to save money, thus nudging them to buy crazy expensive internal storage? I don’t know. Felt disingenuous but it is Apple we are talking about after all.

There’s also a chance of the port quality being bad, but again Apple didn’t really push their “superior lightning design” to USB consortium either, otherwise we’d all benefit from lightning design which so many people tout “superior” over USB-C port.

With the Mini (in my case), anything is possible.

The Mac Mini design has had Bluetooth range/connection/stability issues for like over a decade, and Apple has done basically nothing about it. I think it's due to the case design/materials.

They probably just think "It's a desktop! - plug your peripherals in with a wire! -- you know...like your external hard drive, which can now be as flaky as the bluetooth!"
 
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With the Mini (in my case), anything is possible.

The Mac Mini design has had Bluetooth range/connection/stability issues for like over a decade, and Apple has done basically nothing about it. I think it's due to the case design/materials.

They probably just think "It's a desktop! - plug your peripherals in with a wire! -- you know...like your external hard drive, which can now be as flaky as the bluetooth!"
I would never understand the blind praise some people get. It feels disingenuous and disgusting. Apple is far from perfect and will never be. Why is it so hard to accept that fact is beyond my comprehension. Just like M1. Is it powerful? Yes. Powerful enough to not let me think about upgrading for years? No.
 
I would never understand the blind praise some people get. It feels disingenuous and disgusting. Apple is far from perfect and will never be. Why is it so hard to accept that fact is beyond my comprehension. Just like M1. Is it powerful? Yes. Powerful enough to not let me think about upgrading for years? No.

I think the M1 praise came specifically because it was on the heels of a period of Intel stagnation.

Now that we are well underway with the ASi chip lines, the progress over time has tapered off significantly compared to what one experiences coming from the last Intel Macs (perhaps other than the last Intel MacPro)

The now discontinued M1 MBA was such a great machine.
Basically just took everything everyone loved already and swapped a way better Apple chip in there and left the rest basically untouched.

To me it then became more mixed. The wedge got ditched, they now have huge feet and a notch .. the material seems different to the touch, etc, etc

I always wonder what anyone actually "needs" though. I see so many comments about how "a base machine is just fine for me" -- and I think, that's probably true.

That same person would be just fine with my 2015 15" MBP with a new NVMe stick in there. It radically transforms otherwise great hardware. My 2015 15" screen looks every bit as good as the M2 MBA 15" screen (I've used them side by side)
 
I never owned one, but I always found it a compelling machine.

Almost a shame it's going away. :(

It feels like for 95 percent of Air buyers, this machine is all you need.
 
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I never owned one, but I always found it a compelling machine.

Almost a shame it's going away. :(

It feels like for 95 percent of Air buyers, this machine is all you need.
You can always try to find one with other sellers so going away isn’t really.
 
I always wonder what anyone actually "needs" though. I see so many comments about how "a base machine is just fine for me" -- and I think, that's probably true.
I know some folks who genuinely need MacBook Air grade machine. Light, with performance and battery life. But for some of those people out here? I bet all he/she need is an iPad Air.
 
I just went looking at the refurbished 2020 M1 MacBook Air 8 core/8 core, 1 TB, 16 GB of RAM, and it seems to be about US$90 cheaper at US$1249.00 than it was over a year ago when I bought one.
 
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How long do these go? I'm still using mine and it's really good still, even with the new updates. I think my only regret about this computer is there is only the microphone port on the right side.
 
Thats speculation, unfortunately. Open Core takes advantage of how robust UEFI is on x86 machines to work around checks built into MacOS. The way I understand it, the actual firmware in an Apple Silicon Mac is much much more limited which is great for security, but means any "pre-boot" environment, including the boot options screen, is actually a version of macOS being loaded into memory. Not saying something similar isn't possible, but it will be very different.
This. I can't believe someone else didn't say this beforehand.

So far as I know, OCLP is only for Intel machines and cannot be ported to Apple Silicon. Anyone thinking they'll get an extra decade out of their AS machines (with continued software updates after Apple stops official supporting them) needs to realize this is a huge unknown at this point - and may eventually prove impossible without Apple's permission.

I knew this when I made the leap to my M1 Air the other year. I'd be over the moon if something like OCLP worked on AS machines in five or six years, but y'all need to temper your expectations.
 
This. I can't believe someone else didn't say this beforehand.

So far as I know, OCLP is only for Intel machines and cannot be ported to Apple Silicon. Anyone thinking they'll get an extra decade out of their AS machines (with continued software updates after Apple stops official supporting them) needs to realize this is a huge unknown at this point - and may eventually prove impossible without Apple's permission.

I knew this when I made the leap to my M1 Air the other year. I'd be over the moon if something like OCLP worked on AS machines in five or six years, but y'all need to temper your expectations.
True, but how often do you need the most current MacOS? I understand the security concerns but can’t that be addressed by sticking to good safety practices (e.g.; don’t click links, only download legitimate software from legitimate sources, etc).
 
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True, but how often do you need the most current MacOS? I understand the security concerns but can’t that be addressed by sticking to good safety practices (e.g.; don’t click links, only download legitimate software from legitimate sources, etc).
Tech companies like to instil people with fear of not using the absolutely latest tech with the danger of “getting hacked, getting data stolen, getting privacy destroyed”, all the while slowly take away users liberty and freedom while also not delivering the tech that users would otherwise enjoy to use.
 
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With the Mini (in my case), anything is possible.

The Mac Mini design has had Bluetooth range/connection/stability issues for like over a decade, and Apple has done basically nothing about it. I think it's due to the case design/materials.
They must have changed something in the software because my Mac mini went from having regular bluetooth problems to being completely reliable.
 
could it be Apple intentionally make permanent external storage unstable for folks who wants to save money, thus nudging them to buy crazy expensive internal storage? I don’t know. Felt disingenuous but it is Apple we are talking about after all.

There’s also a chance of the port quality being bad, but again Apple didn’t really push their “superior lightning design” to USB consortium either, otherwise we’d all benefit from lightning design which so many people tout “superior” over USB-C port.
Or perhaps @turbineseaplane was just unlucky and got a faulty device. This seems much more likely than some conspiracy. For what it's worth I have no issues with external storage on my machine.
 
Or perhaps @turbineseaplane was just unlucky and got a faulty device. This seems much more likely than some conspiracy. For what it's worth I have no issues with external storage on my machine.
It’s difficult to prove otherwise, but I don’t think those ports are designed for permanently attaching external drives to it. Ethernet cable suits the bill better and more stable than USB cable or lighting cable.
 
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