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Apple Explains Why Only USB-C AirPods Pro Support Lossless Audio With Vision Pro
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But do those devices support 5GHz on Bluetooth. They do on the Wifi transmitters but AFAIK not in the Bluetooth transmitters. Perhaps this is not as arbitrary as you might think. I would expect that any upcoming Mac or Phone updates to add 5GHz BT support from now on.
The explanation sounds fine to me. All along, I thought a lot of fuss was made for nothing much and the fuss was probably more of an express of emotional dissatisfaction that one didn't get the latest?
I mean, it makes sense that if the original H2 chip only communicated in 2.4Ghz and the updated H2 chip can communicate in 5Hz, it means bigger bandwidth (and also less range). It's the same with all radio signals in Wifi: the higher the frequency, the more the bandwidth but the lower the range of distance.
Anyhow....
I mean, it makes sense that if the original H2 chip only communicated in 2.4Ghz and the updated H2 chip can communicate in 5Hz, it means bigger bandwidth (and also less range). It's the same with all radio signals in Wifi: the higher the frequency, the more the bandwidth but the lower the range of distance.
Anyhow....
Nah, you would still get almost as many complaints. People complain based on their perceived issues, not what is actually presented in the articles. Such as here where so many people are complaining that they won't get a special audio mode that 99% of them could not hear anyway.
so you are biased lol , so because you don’t use it to it’s full potential then lightning is superior?
It is an explanation made for an audience who doesn’t understand the technical details. Sure.
But for those that to it opens more questions.
Even giving them the benefit of the doubt here. The lightning version doesn’t have a WiFi 5G antenna so they added it to these. That can make technical sense. But why that same functionality wouldn’t work with iPhones. Which have had 5Ghz WiFi antennas for a long time now and 15 Pro even has a 6Ghz one.
You could say “well they weren’t using WiFi before”, but that still wouldn’t track. As they noted using WiFi 2.4Ghz in this explanation.
I don’t have a pitchfork out on the issue. My lightening AirPods Pros are fine… I just don’t like poor explanations that seem to placate people.
Your cheap Chinese smartphone supports 5GHz for WIFI!
Not for Bluetooth.
What makes it greed?
That they are using new hardware on the Vision Pro and the new AirPods Pro that supports a whole new band for Bluetooth. I would say that is something to be happy about that we should be able to get more bandwidth from Bluetooth on future products as those products are updated. Perhaps those complaining about this should give it a rest.
In that there’s no one making products today that do NOT want to sell you another product in the future. EVERYthing is “planned obsolesence”.
Those devices support 5GHz on the Wifi radio, not on the bluetooth radio. There is a difference. It's not arbitrary.
You could ask why Apple didn't add 5GHz to the new phones (maybe they did) but you can't complain that 5GHz has been there for years because it has not.
No, even startups have predicted how they’ll make money. They’ll keep that information from the general public (so no one else beats them to market), but they absolutely have to convince VC’s that they will be able to provide a predictable profit.
This is a tiny feature that only works with a device that has not even been released yet and will only ever matter to some hardcore audio enthusiasts. It is at most a 2.1 upgrade.
Why? You think lossless audio will be limited to the Vision Pro?
I'm willing to bet lossless wireless audio will come to the iPhone 16, if not the iPhone 17 too.
Lossless audio isn't something limited to the AVP tho, it's a strong feature in itself.
Edit: Apple's PR implies that lossless audio on the new APP2 only works with the AVP, I missed that, but it also doesn't make sense to me how 20Hz 48-bit audio cannot be available when using the APP2 in standalone mode.
Yes, it's clear from the interview that the new lossless over 5GHz Bluetooth was built on top of the H2 BT chip. The iPhones don't have that audio focused chip. They have more general purpose BT circuitry that has not been cusgomized to support the new band. I would hope that they do start integrating this into the BT chips of the iPhones and other devices in next year's devices as they are upgraded.
The article doesn't make it clear, but it's not a "5GHz Wi-Fi" signal. That's different.
Yeah like the audience that reads 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz and jumps to the conclusion that bluetooth headsets use Wifi.
Agree.
Explaining that there's different versions of the H2 chip and they opted to put a different, more advanced version of the H2 chip is just a different way of saying, "Yes, it's correct that USB-C APP2 are superior to their Lightning counterparts. Good for you that you read the fine print. Metaphorical pat on the back. But we don't care if anyone got the first version and is mad they thought they bought the most advanced AirPods Pro until APP3 launch in the future. You took the bait and we switched because we can."
But why get you to buy APP2 just once if Apple can maybe get you to buy them twice?
They likely didn’t know when it would be released, as you are forgetting the 1-2 year lead time for the design of AirPods Pro 2 before they launched.