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Apple fails to support small user communities - so I'm leaving
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What is with everyone bashing me for hating panther? A bet a lot of you hate os 9...but i happen to like it. Am i allowed to bash you?
NusuniAdmin said:
I think alot of people(inluding me) liked OS for what is was. We just didn't like it for what it did. It crashed alot. With Panther and Jaguar I never had crash. With Jaguar I had a couple app crashes but, luckly we have force quit. I think XP is pos. I think windows itself is pos. If longhorn ever comes out it is going to be pos. It is just a copied version of Mac OS X.
Is that why they are consistently ranked as one of the best in customer service and satisfaction?wide said:
First, those viruses exploit gapping holes that Microsoft leaves in their OS either because they don't care or because they are to incompetent to write a good OS. It IS Microsofts fault. Thats like saying its not a companies fault if they leave some of the doors open all night long and people come in and steal their stuff. Its the theifs fault for stealing it, so obviously the company isn't to blame for allowing them in.
Second, have you ever met a virus programmer? I have, and I can tell you that none of them or the ones they know are Mac fans. They write viruses because they want screw with other people, or for noteriety, or just because they can.
I love when people rant about something that they don't understand...
You obviously don't understand just what virtual memory entails. First in any modern OS virtual memory is ALWAYS on, there is no reason not to have it on. Second, if you aren't running other programs you WANT the OS to use as much memory as possible. That means that it isn't wasting time swapping between disk and memory. A proper modern OS utilizes all resources to the fulllest if it can, it shouldn't be wasting memory. As soon as more programs need memory the kernal will start paging memory to more programs in order to keep things going (I think OS X using paging for its VM scheme). Third, given that you can't turn VM off on OS X how can it run at 85%?
NusuniAdmin said:
You obviously don't understand just what virtual memory entails. First in any modern OS virtual memory is ALWAYS on, there is no reason not to have it on. Second, if you aren't running other programs you WANT the OS to use as much memory as possible. That means that it isn't wasting time swapping between disk and memory. A proper modern OS utilizes all resources to the fulllest if it can, it shouldn't be wasting memory. As soon as more programs need memory the kernal will start paging memory to more programs in order to keep things going (I think OS X using paging for its VM scheme). Third, given that you can't turn VM off on OS X how can it run at 85%?
Krizoitz said:
When the pageouts start because i run out of memory the whole system slows to around 85% of the normal speed, ydl and many other linux distro's do not do this and actually run at nearly their regular speed
bousozoku said:Maybe if he'd said Isle of Wight, you wouldn't have been confused?
Just think, where did they get those Jersey cows?
No, then he would think of North Carolina and Kitty Hawk
Post codes
Hi
Try putting in your post code all in lower case. I could not login into ITMS UK, from the Isle of Man, until i used lower case for my post code then i could. strange but true. The IOM is also not part of the UK, but a Crown Dependancy, just like Jersey, so if we have it, i guess you will have to.
Hi
Try putting in your post code all in lower case. I could not login into ITMS UK, from the Isle of Man, until i used lower case for my post code then i could. strange but true. The IOM is also not part of the UK, but a Crown Dependancy, just like Jersey, so if we have it, i guess you will have to.
NusuniAdmin said:
I don't know much about Linux. I do know that Linux is faster under some system intensive processes. I also know that the reason we have RAM is because it is a helluva lot faster than a HD. That is a pretty pure and simple fact. No VM will EVER be as fast as RAM.
Also, VM on a computer with a 4200RPM drive, like my laptop, is going to be slower than VM on a 7200rpm drive, like my mom's PowerMac.
If you are getting "nearly regular speed" from Linux while VM is active, than you aren't using memory intensive tasks. If you are getting good speeds, then why even buy RAM? go out and get a bigger HD, it's a lot cheaper than a 512mb stick...
Tyler
Earendil
nelwd said:
The "Isle Of Man" is that in Manhatten?... lol... Just kidding guys- poking a little fun at my expense- no need to roast me - unless of course you'd like to...lol...
jemeinc said:
Yeah, why is "New Jersey" shortened to "Jersey", but "New York" isn't.. In fact, sometimes, it's even lengthened to "New York New York"...
Oh, yes, someone had to speak up on this
I agree with you 200%. I had my share of severe dissappointments and feel of being ripped off with their highly concentric and arrogant customer services agents. All apple have is their loyal customer base, and nothing else. I have never seen another company that screws over its biggest user-base, or their biggest retail channels (used to be the independent stores see the whole story http://www.tellonapple.org/ ). They should be dishing out their anguish of not being able to get more of the market on the competition, not making their user-base pay high royalty fees and crazy margins, and plus, asking 50 big ones for a phone call is just plain cranialrectosis.
winwintoo said:
I agree with you 200%. I had my share of severe dissappointments and feel of being ripped off with their highly concentric and arrogant customer services agents. All apple have is their loyal customer base, and nothing else. I have never seen another company that screws over its biggest user-base, or their biggest retail channels (used to be the independent stores see the whole story http://www.tellonapple.org/ ). They should be dishing out their anguish of not being able to get more of the market on the competition, not making their user-base pay high royalty fees and crazy margins, and plus, asking 50 big ones for a phone call is just plain cranialrectosis.
whooleytoo said:Yeah, why is "New Jersey" shortened to "Jersey", but "New York" isn't.. In fact, sometimes, it's even lengthened to "New York New York"...
Well, New York, New York is actually a proper way to describe the city of New York in the Stae of New York. There is actually much more to New York (state) than that big city!
Earendil said:
You're right there. Linux is still fairly small, unless you use a GUI and I understand the minimum requirements (from some Linux user's article) is 192MB which is higher than Mac OS X although recommendations are about the same.
Laptop users are definitely at a disadvantage on the page out writes. Someone mentioned recently that 5400 rpm drives are as quick on reads as 7200 rpm drives. Even though I find that difficult to believe--people may not noticed the difference but that's another story--they're not that quick on writes almost any time.
aloofman said:
I started this thread off ages ago, and admit that I was more than a little hot headed.. just the dissapointment I suppose.
I am interested to see so many knowledgable people about, all of whom seem to be a little interested in Jersey. I was a little disturbed by the guy that posted information on the Jersey constitution..
Anyway.. as for the above quote: I am a little appalled: one has to assume that you assume that people aren't actually born in Jersey. I lived in London for 3 years, but chose to leave the City for a quieter life and start a family. When making that decision I decided to return home, to Jersey, the place where I was born and raised.
I love the fact that people seem to assume that we are all a bunch of money grabbing, law waivering fools. The truth is that the majority of people living in Jersey believe that the place is poorly managed and would like to see it changed.
In response to the other questions re what Apple actually did so poorly, I can't be bothered to go into it, but I will say that I have bought an iBook, PowerBook, iPod 2nd gen, Airport, numerous peripherals etc.. I have had few issues with the products themselves, and, to be honest, when I have had they have been rectified reasonably well: the issues I do have is the crap tracking system and case information site they have. It doesn't bloody work, nor does their delivery tracking sytem. As someone said above, you sometimes have to go through 3 or 4 different people before you get someone who can a) make a decision and b) has access to all the systems they need to help.
Someone also mentioned Dell's support line, which is manned and operated in India: the same is true of Apple (at least in the UK).
Anyway, my apologies for inciting so much reaction and the good news is that, having calmed down, the truth is I would rather eat off my own feet that return to a MS system.
OK.. enough said
PS... I just bought Airport Express and the iPod 4th gen 40gb...