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Apple forgetting the A6 devices
- Thread starter George Waseem
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What I mean from posting this thread is that it's a bit early for Apple to just make some apps for not supported on my device, it's kinda annoying being taken into consideration as an old A5 device, I use my brothers iPad mini 1 and i feel it's getting old, graphics are ok but not that good, using games on an iPad 4 is still awesome, no dropped frames when playing, smooth and very fluid, being took into consideration as an unsupported device by some apps is unfair, a5 and a6 are completely different, while a single core score on an a5 device is just 240, a6 is 770 and multi core on a5 is 470 compared to 1420 in the A6 especially that my iPad 4 runs an A6X which I think is still even better than the A6. While the A6 chip is 6 to 7 times faster than the A5, A7 is just like double A6s. Finally, what I would like to say is that Apple should extend the time period of how those devices get supported, Apple just likes us to throw away our old devices to get the new devices and pay them more money.
Technology moves quickly. You need to accept that. The iPad 4 was released almost 3 years ago, I'm not surprised that Apple is moving away from it.
Sorry, I disagree with the "You need to accept that" part.
The OP is right about how quickly Apple obsoletes devices. I've worked in software and systems development for longer than Apple has existed, at levels from client devices through enterprise. Customers are always on down level releases to one degree or another. Inducing them to move to current levels is an art, and doesn't always work. In fact, many people would revolt at being put on a forced march to move to new versions the way Apple does. It's one thing if there are specific technology reasons to be forced to move to a more current version. It's quite another to be forced to move for Apple's marketing reasons. And given the new features in the latest crop of products, there are very few if any reasons to move which are based on pure technology.
This strategy of forced obsolescence didn't work for American car companies, and it will backfire on Apple and other tech companies if they get too aggressive about it, which I think Apple is.
Who defines the market, anyway? The manufacturers or the customers? Don't start thinking that Apple holds all the cards here. The buying public always does. Apple can be left out in the cold if they keep on abandoning customers like this.
And what are the "next big things" coming from Apple, anyway? All I see are incremental enhancements, not new product categories (even with the Watch) or products that are truly disruptive like the iPhone was. So now they want to maintain their market dominance by ensuring that devices costing hundreds of dollars stay current for a meager couple of years instead?
No thanks.
If you want Apple to change vote with your dollars. Once enough people do that, Apple will change. That most likely isn't going to happen anytime soon. Better accept it.
This is pretty accurate. Besides, the iPad 4 is 3 years old. That's a long time when you're talking about consumer tech.
I can't imagine how you'd handle using a 3 year old android device when your last software update would have been about 2 years ago.
Apple treats its customers pretty well when it comes to updates and compatibility. The consumer tech market moves ridiculously fast, so even a few years of support/software updates is awesome. The iPad 2 came out 4.5 years ago and just got the latest iOS. That's impressive. Good luck getting Lollipop on your Moto Xoom or HTC Flyer.
No they don't... If I recall correctly, the only thing Apple forced developers to do recently is to make their apps Universal (32/64-bit) rather than 32-bit only in January this year.
Yep. They haven't forced developers to drop 32 bit, only to write all apps with native 64 bit support. Developers can still provide 32 bit apps alongside the 64 bit ones.
This is my point. Apple can't depend on dictating when people or developers have to forget about prior versions of their products and move to the new ones that Apple wants to flog. There's a lot I like about Apple products and the ecosystem around them. But if they keep obsoleting the products I've paid so much for in such a short period of time, you bet my dollars will vote. And others will, too. Not everyone drinks the Apple koolaid.
remember that high end fast windows xp x86 machine from 2003? try using windows 7 or 10 on it, just using the thing period today, ya that slowness is certainly microsoft's fault!
wow good god with this "apple this & that on PURPOSE im sad & mad now" crap..
wow good god with this "apple this & that on PURPOSE im sad & mad now" crap..
It is becoming an issue. How many people had PC's with Windows XP last them 10 years... I know I did, and it cost me less than my ipad Air, which now doesn't have split screen (there is NO reason it shouldn't have it). I love apple, but they are purposly leaving out features that clearly can work on older versions.
Remember Siri on the iphone 4? Remember voice activated GPS on the 4 (while google maps had voice)?
Remember Siri on the iphone 4? Remember voice activated GPS on the 4 (while google maps had voice)?
Windows XP ran with almost every feature for computers for 10+ years... It is STILL the most used OS out there today...
EDIT: Don't let web browsing statistics fool you, Windows XP is still the most used OS worldwide...
It doesn't have split screen because there isn't enough RAM. The issues you mentioned are all hardware, not just Apple leaving things out with no clear reason.
But Windows XP was a single Windows version. So if you have iOS 6 on some device that supports it and run it it will work just fine as well.
Apps reloading on the iPad Air shows there wasn't enough RAM to keep two apps open.
Can clearly work?? How can you say that? iPad Air1 is already RAM constrained with one app open!
And low memory crash logs. And memory usage tests that clearly show how the 2gb of the Air 2 are barely enough for split screen multitasking
Also the new iPad Mini 4 which does support split screen comes with 2GB of ram even though it runs an A8 chip which originally had 1GB of ram.
Not at all actually. The mini has the same resolution screen as the full sized iPads.
Windows XP had many major service packs, that introduced major features. If you look at the original 2001 version vs the latest versions there were many major fundamental design changes.
The point was the single OS served many hardware changes over the 13 years of support.
I have a black 2006 MacBook that lost support for upgrades in 2010. Many users hacked their systems in order to run the next OS, which runs fine... Apple even gave us a trial of iMessage that worked perfectly, they then proceeded to shut it off when the next OS came out.
Windows 7 and the new Windows 10 will run on much older hardware than any new Apple OS.
I love apple, but let's not act like they do not hold back features in order to push users to buy new hardware. This is the problem when the same company that makes the hardware, makes the software... They have no incentive to make their software run well on older devices. Software companies want to maximize sales, to do that they need to be more inclusive than hardware + software companies.
I was in the Genius Bar waiting for them to take my watch for a repair. I heard them tell a lady that her laptop was on its last leg because it was so old. This was a 2011 MacBook. It is unacceptable that a $2k computer is treated like it is ancient when it is 4 years old.
This was a general statement. If you will notice I pointed out Siri on the iPhone 4 which was part of the beta.
If you can do multitasking I'll bet it can run split screen...
Things can perhaps work, but likely not to the standards that Apple wants them to be at, and that in turn likely plays into the decision.