Nope. They did lend a helping hand. You can pretend they didn’t however.
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Apple Further Explains iOS 17.4's New Default Browser Prompt in EU
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Yet another case of governments assuming consumers are too stupid to know what's best for themselves.
The overlap between consumers who don't know other browsers for iOS exist and those that don't care is likely close to 100%. As such, this group of consumers are more likely to find the prompt annoying and confusing than they are beneficial. "WTF is Aloha? Just let me use my damn phone already!"
Those that care about different browsers likely don't need to be told such choices exist. Those that don't know don't care.
This is yet another case of the EU making products subtly worse. It's people who have never created anything of value in their lives thinking they know more about how products should work than the companies who create them and the customers who use them.
Nope. They didn't lend a helping hand. You can pretend they did however. Having some else pay isn't giving a hand, it's a cheap ass PR move.
Not hard at all. Just wipe your phone and set it up again so you'll be asked again. Or... just maybe... they can go to settings and choose default browser.
100% spot on.
Apple phones have been very easy to use because they have limited the clutter and plethora of choices in the past.
Well their website says differently. You can pretend otherwise and have the last word. Op in reference to this entire topic asked a question, apple helped and you can deny it until the cows come home. Your opinion is still wrong.
Having choice on defaults apps you prefer is not making things "subtly worse"
Apple themselves, without being compelled to do so, has added user selectable default App options in the past for other categories (default email client is an example)l
Because Apple is just sooo trustworthy? It's not like they never have been deceptive... There is no antenna issue ... These issues don't exists ... sorry, here is a repair program, now its gone to court... The main sensor in the 15 pro is larger! (just forgot we meant compared to the 15, it's the same as in the 14 pro) ... 8GB is the same as 16GB .. You can pretend otherwise and have the last word. Apple made a PR move payed mostly by others and you can deny it until the cows come home. Your opinion is still wrong.
I'm a healthcare worker. We received masks that were donated through Apple. They sourced those masks from their supply chains and donated them. That was absolutely a helping hand...and it was a heck of a lot more than my state did for us. In fact, the only thing the state did for us...was tell people to "be sure to thank your healthcare heroes!". Cheap *** PR move or not, it helped out during a time where I otherwise would have had to make ONE mask last an entire work week because our supply was low. And it was better than the "hang in there" we got from the governor.
Just because the help wasn't in the form YOU think it should have been, that doesn't mean it wasn't a helping hand. Sure, someone else paid. But those someone else's didn't do anything else to get these things to us. Apple could have kept that money to themselves and not put in the effort to source masks. Personally...I'm glad they didn't. I don't give a flying crap who paid for it. I care about the fact that something was actually done with that money. Someone paying for it doesn't matter it if nothing is done with it.
That being said...this is far off the topic at hand. Moving on.
I never said having choices makes things worse. Rather, I pointed out that these choices already exist. Forcing them into people's faces is what makes things subtly worse.
I suspect you know this and are being disingenuous and deliberately misrepresenting my argument. If I'm wrong—and you're not disingenuous and merely incapable of understanding other points of view—my apologies. I promise not to overestimate your intelligence again.
Dozens of browsers that are still Safari/WebKit underneath. That's the bigger part of the story here IMO.
This opposition has nothing to do with it being a bad idea or not. But because it’s government driven.
I hope it will force Apple to start innovating the hot mess that is Safari. Bloated interface, confusing settings, broken iCloud sync, nonsupport for latest standards …
I hope it will force Apple to start innovating the hot mess that is Safari. Bloated interface, confusing settings, broken iCloud sync, nonsupport for latest standards …
They don't exist though. Every iOS browser is just a skinned Safari/WebKit.
It's simply a helpful one time setup flow
Presenting users with options, particularly with a new feature, is making things better (not worse).
Exactly.
For those that say "more choice is always better", try this experiment:
One week, ask your spouse/significant other/love interest where they would like to go eat, and give them two choices.
The next week, ask them the same question, but give them a list of 12 choices.
See which one makes you both happier. My bet is the first approach. I further bet that, with the second choice, you're more likely to frustrate the other person and wind up staying at home and missing out on the date altogether.
(Somewhat controversially, I suggest for men especially, instead of providing even a short list of choices, ask something like, "How would you like to go to Le Café Bleu with me tomorrow night?", but I digress.)
The point is, while choice is good, more choice is often worse than fewer choices, even if that seems counterintuitive.
You keep asserting that, but repeating your assertion is not an argument.
Totally silly comparison
People are used to using computers
A one time setup popup to ask them if they'd prefer an alternative default browser (which many may if they use something else on a different computer/device) is not overwhelming, nor is it going to cause unhappiness.
My goodness - you are overreacting to a ridiculous degree
You keep asserting that, but repeating your assertion is not an argument.
I trust apple more than some of the posters on the internet.
Throw the baby out with the bath water? Applying the did something once logic, we are all in the same deceptive boat.
I've never seen so much complaining about something so optional
lmfao
If you like Safari, just select it at device setup and never worry about it again.
This is a hilarious amount of whining about being given a choice if you want one
(just like you can already do with choosing a default email client)
lmfao
If you like Safari, just select it at device setup and never worry about it again.
This is a hilarious amount of whining about being given a choice if you want one
(just like you can already do with choosing a default email client)
I called it subtly worse. I never called it overwhelming. Perhaps I'm not the one overreacting and being ridiculous.
But between things like the stupid cookie popups and GDPR boilerplate we must consent to (thanks again, EU) and this, yes, they add up and making using computers less and less pleasant. Just because we tolerate them and are used to them doesn't mean they don't, subtly but cumulatively, make things worse.
No, I'm not asserting it. I'm backing up my opinion with arguments and analogies.
But I do owe you an apology: I again overestimated your intelligence after I promised I would not.
It's just a nice interface, at device setup, to help you get going in a way of your choice.
I can't believe how much hand wringing there is over this.
For once I sympathize with Apple.
It doesn't matter what they do - everyone complains about some aspect of it.
I'm used to people not understanding how business and economics work, but are taxes that hard to understand?
Do you think that if Apple sends a million dollars to a cause that the government reduces their tax bill by a million dollars?
If they gave that million dollars to an individual or other business it is treated as income and taxed at that business. If that business is registered as a nonprofit then taxpayers are giving that business a break, not Apple.
This isn't complicated stuff...