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Apple Further Explains iOS 17.4's New Default Browser Prompt in EU
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Use Edge on a new installation of Windows. Providing users with a good default experience is not even on the list of objectives.
Goal number one is to show you their ad-riddled home page.
Goal number two is to get you to turn on all the tracking in Edge.
Goal number three is to get you signed in to a Microsoft account so they can suck all your documents in to OneDrive and start upselling you on Office.
These are the only three goals. User experience only comes into it to the point that they are constantly testing the boundaries of how far they can push it. They are extremely aggressive about it.
And it's not just the first run, either. Essentially every single time you open Edge especially but most Microsoft products these days, something is going to steal focus and jump up at you at minimum, or just as likely completely take over your entire screen, to get you to agree to giving them more data or making damn sure you're aware of a new feature they've just added.
Oh and god help you if you change the default browser. You will be prompted at every turn to re-enable it as the default viewer for PDFs and web browsing. Also Google will remind you at every opportunity that you should be using Chrome, so Google can have your data instead.
This is all about controlling the endpoint. Since everything is encrypted now, owning the browser means owning the unencrypted juicy data that they can monetize, that's where the real money is. That's the reason for the new browser wars.
The browser ballot is just asking you to choose your stalker.
And for the record yes, Microsoft does. They absolutely used to, not certain if they are still required, but yes they were the first to have to do it.
And this is one reason I do see validity to the argument of banning third party browser renderers on iOS. At least it remains a final chokepoint to the total domination of Google. I think and hope that Apple is the least worst option to control the browser endpoint, of the options we have available. Maybe Mozilla, maybe.
So your example is a tax write off PR move and Apple not being able to raise prices, cause they already are on the peak of supply/demand price? Apple is fleecing people on storage and RAM and you think they kept their price due to being nice?
Wrong, the better analogy here is forcing Ford to ask the buyer what type of oil they want put in the engine right off the bat. And FWIW - all Ford cars get Ford Motor Oil, regardless if the buyer would prefer Penzoil (but they are more than welcome to drive it right to their mechanic and have them put it in afterwards, just like you have been able to do with your browser, go to the App Store and download a different one)
I guess this is to benefit the users not savvy enough to click on the App Store and type in "Browsers"? 🙄
Why would they, they do not use alphabetical order for their own apps in Setup and they compound the issue by segregating them into three categories.
This would only be true if their mechanic had Ford Motor Oil (WebKit) inside the Pennzoil (alternative browser) bottle.
Giving users a choice is akin to going back to early-80s operating systems?Can't wait to see what iOS looks like in ten years. Will have so much complying options it'll look like msdos and autoexec.bat and config.sys hot mess files.
I find it baffling, staggering even, that most people here are opposed to pro-consumer (and pro-competitive markets) governmental regulations for bizarre ideological reasons.
It's the Apple hivemind. I get it, they make great products and I've owned many of them. That said, you'll never see me with an Apple T-shirt or an Apple bumper sticker.
Lets see what Apple does:
- after every update it asks me to enable two factor and makes the “no“ choice not obvious
- after an update it may ask you to subscribe to apple music the first time you open the app
- after an update it turns on bluetooth on my ipad even though I never use it
- it randomly resets the Safari sidebar to the top level even if you only use bookmarks
- if you travel and turn off cellular data they keep showing an alert in the dynamic island that you have to dismiss (be careful not to enable cellular)
Apple should actually send a Genius employee to everyone's house to hold their hand through the entire setup process.
No, I get it. They're adding lots of stuff in the EU. I've been tracking it. Kind of hard to miss, it's everywhere in the news. The news organizations practically beat a person over the head with what's going on there.
But this thread is talking specifically about the new default browser prompt.
This new browser prompt just seems like a lot of silly handholding for the non-savvy, as far as I'm concerned…
Not trying to be mean, or a jerk, but just a little bit over-the-top. A person can simply go to the App Store, type in "browsers", and you get dozens upon dozens of different browsers to choose from. Not difficult in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
Because gov’t bureaucrats have to justify their existence and want more power like everyone else. The best way to deal with this nonsense is to slash agencies, eliminate crony capitalism (gov’t colluding with big business), and make it easier for smaller companies to compete by reducing regulations. Anyone who’s ever tried to start a business knows just how crippling gov’t regulations are.
They did the same exact thing to Microsoft back in the day but it wasn’t the gov’t that helped displace IE as the most popular browser, but a little company called Google and their small and light web browser known as Chrome (I did say back in the day, right?).
Ironic since apple is choking of competition left and right.
Cause EU politicians think the world likes to overcomplicate things. People just want it to work, period.
Yep. It was not asked if there was a tax implication. Only if apple lent a helping hand.
