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iPad Pro Apple has just introduced Bionic A14 in iPad Air
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Better at single core (~+45% per early GB5 benches), pretty close multi-core (~-15%), but pretty behind in GPU. I expect better performance per watt, though.
Nope I did b/c I felt like it. I don't think your complaining is that productive either cause there's nothing you can do about it now. What, you're going to sue Apple for including a newer gen chip in a cheaper device?
+45% single core is absolutely massive. When you consider how important efficiency is to avoid thermal throttling, I think the A14 is indeed far superior CPU wise despite only 2 high performance cores. I’m curious how well the GPU will do now ... with and without the throttling.
Hahaha, you sound like a child. Anyways, when you have something productive to say about this conversation, come back. Until then, don’t bother.
I think you should take your own advice. Who's the one that's butt hurt about Apple releasing a cheaper product with a newer processor. Just take a chill pill and relax. There are worse things going around in the world than Apple including A14 in the lowly Air.
I have the 11” 2020 iPP 256GB. I bought it from COSTCO so I have a 90 day return window which puts me mid October for a return. If I purchased the Air 4 with 256GB it would be $100 less than I paid for my 11” iPP.
I think the upsides of the iPP exceed the $100 difference which has been posted in these threads. Now the New 11” iPP will certainly be a game changer. That one will be WOW! So don’t freak over the A14 it‘s not anything close to what the new iPad Pro will be in 6 months or so.
If you look at current Geekbench scores we are already getting butts kicked by iPhones in single core. So who cares the new iPad Air is going up there too. MultiCore and GPU our machines will still rock.
I think the upsides of the iPP exceed the $100 difference which has been posted in these threads. Now the New 11” iPP will certainly be a game changer. That one will be WOW! So don’t freak over the A14 it‘s not anything close to what the new iPad Pro will be in 6 months or so.
If you look at current Geekbench scores we are already getting butts kicked by iPhones in single core. So who cares the new iPad Air is going up there too. MultiCore and GPU our machines will still rock.
Considering the stuff I do, multi-core and GPU just aren’t that important to me (at least not after A10).
Since Apple will soon release ARM-based Macs, I wonder if they will ever consider making iPads more modular. I’d rather have A14, 8GB RAM and 1TB storage versus the configs available now.
What apps take good advantage of multiple cores in an ipad? I use an ipad much differently than a mac, and while I value multi-core/multithreaded apps on he latter, I'm really not sure what apps can take advantage of that on an ipad... that could play into a decision if you want an ipad with an A14 vs A14X/Z
Regarding what you have written, I wanted also to ask if working with large PDF files and doing heavy annotations uses the GPU and multi cores of the iPad.
Good way to look at this! I still love my 2022 iPad Pro and would trade it in for the new Air for anything. I think I was more shocked Apple put the new A14 in the Air before the pro got the upgrade to the A14z. I still think the 2020 pro is an amazing machine that I don’t push the limits of.
I learned by lesson from paying full price for lte iPad 3 most expensive version at that time ($829) in spring of 2012. I will never be fool again paying full price for iPad especially with rumors of new iPad in fall of 2020 even when the new iPad Pro 2020 models were being released that were barely better than iPad Pro late 2018 models
the iPad 3 had same a5 processor (a5x) as iPad 2 (A5) slightly better graphics and Apple released iPad 4 months later.
I purchase almost every iPad version but stopped paying retail prices since 2012.
So when I was looking for new iPad in June. I got refurbished iPad Pro 11 (A12X) $549 with my friends military discount (10% off). $494 for base 64gb. I’m totally happen with it.
the iPad 3 had same a5 processor (a5x) as iPad 2 (A5) slightly better graphics and Apple released iPad 4 months later.
I purchase almost every iPad version but stopped paying retail prices since 2012.
So when I was looking for new iPad in June. I got refurbished iPad Pro 11 (A12X) $549 with my friends military discount (10% off). $494 for base 64gb. I’m totally happen with it.
Could someone explain the meaning of single core and multi core, and how that relates to apps ?
I'm considering picking up my first iPad, I'll be using the usual daily apps I suppose such as web browsing, mail, video, ect. But I'd also like to do some music production. Given that, which is more important to performance single core and multi core ?
And what type of apps use single core vs apps that use multi core ?
Thank you .....
I'm considering picking up my first iPad, I'll be using the usual daily apps I suppose such as web browsing, mail, video, ect. But I'd also like to do some music production. Given that, which is more important to performance single core and multi core ?
And what type of apps use single core vs apps that use multi core ?
Thank you .....
These SoCs have multiple CPU cores. Some apps can use all the cores at the same time efficiently. Other apps only make full use of one core at a time. In the former situation, multi-core performance is king. In the latter, it’s single-core.
If you’re talking about A14 vs A12Z, the only CPU workload you mentioned where the difference in performance is going to matter is music production and that one usually can take full advantage of multi-core speed. However, the difference in SoC multi-core performance between A12Z and A14 won’t be big. If you really want a big multi-core boost, you’ll need to wait for A14X. (I assume by “video” you mean streaming video playback so that won’t rely on CPU based playback.)
We’re not sure yet how much RAM the iPad Air 4 has but my guess is that has 4 GB. If so, that means that the 2020 iPad Pro has 50% more RAM than the iPad Air 4. This may or may not matter depending on your specific apps and workflow.
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That’s very nicely explained @EugW
I would also guess that the A14 has 4gb ram. Honestly I don’t see this as an issue at all for atleast another 2 years. By then most will upgrade if they have problems.
4gb ram is actually ok even on Windows 10 for simple tasks, and IpadOS is a very streamlined in comparison. I can’t think of a single app right now, even complex, that doesn’t work on 4gb ipads superbly.
I would also guess that the A14 has 4gb ram. Honestly I don’t see this as an issue at all for atleast another 2 years. By then most will upgrade if they have problems.
4gb ram is actually ok even on Windows 10 for simple tasks, and IpadOS is a very streamlined in comparison. I can’t think of a single app right now, even complex, that doesn’t work on 4gb ipads superbly.
I'm not sure we can link A14 to 4 GB RAM. Yes I agree that the A14 iPad Air 4 will likely have 4 GB RAM, but I also think the A14 iPhone 12 Pro models will have 6 GB RAM.
It’s a little more complicated than that, however, due to efficiency improvements in a new process node. Because thermal constraints play such a big role in a fanless iPad, efficiency can translate directly into higher sustained performance. Really depends on how hard the app pushes the processor, and of course we haven’t seen enough A14 benchmarks yet.
Thank you for clarifying the differences between multi-core and single-core EugW.
I'm very curious what to expect from the A14X. Given what we saw in the air 4, what new features are people expecting to see in the next gen iPad Pros ?
I don't know for the iPad, but for the PC on Windows, it can only make moderate use of multi-core for most functions. However, for photo export, Lightroom on PC is very well multi-core optimized. So it would depend on what you do most. But again, I don't know for the iPad - it may be different.
A14x, 5g, maybe that micro-led display, 1 new hardware feature perhaps?
There’s really only so much that can be done with a slab of glass and that’s probably why Apple is find stretching out the update cycle of the ipad. There’s simply zero competition for it.
The new Samsung Tab 7/7+ is a competitor.
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Nah. There are no real tablet competitors on the Android side. Unfortunately, the app ecosystem has been dead for years. Basically it means you’re often running phone apps on your Android tablet.The new Samsung Tab 7/7+ is a competitor.
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