You won't notice it on your 6S because it's behavior has never changed. The iPhone 7 on iOS 10 has the instant home button because it has a capacative home button and they sped it up to differentiate it from the 6S. Now in iOS 11 they dulled it back down to match the physical home button response time.Oh wow, a half second delay! How horrible! I didn't even notice it on my 6S until some people started crying about a conspiracy and acting like it deserves the most urgent of bug fixes
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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And how does that show a conspiracy? No need to answer since it's obvious that it doesn't.Wrong
The preceding 60+ pages have covered it all more than multiple times already.
Nothing in the 60 pages counters my point. An expensive phone has been slowed down and battery drain is still there and apart from the visual tweaks I am seeing nothing new.
Is there a point to this thread anymore? It’s the same arguments page after page. Needs to be shut down IMO.
Someone else has the credit for this idea, but I agree that it perhaps has something to do with optimization for the A11 chip.... annnnnnnd "who cares about A10? Screw those people... buy new phones. Bwahahahahaha evil laugh!" (No not really, but I bet Spple doesn't care about performance hits to older devices)
Sounds like it. Seems like all discussion is basically ignored and the same mantra is just aimlessly getting regurgitated.
What I am seeing is you guys are just giving one excuse after another for the home button delay. You simply refuse to admit it’s done on purpose to slow down the older phones.
While Planned Obdolescence has become such a loaded term here, I also am amused by the vehement defense of Apple. I figured (incorrectly, apparently) that Apple passion had died after iPhones where no longer a niche "counter culture" device for the artists of the world. (Maybe around 5s time?)
I remember the iphones being soooo cooool until about maybe the 5s/6.
You seem to be unable to admit basic reality that it being on purpose is just a conjecture.
Since you seem so admanant about it not being malice what are the benefits of a slower button? Don't tell me its that bug fix because Apple had 8 betas on 10.3.3 and they would easily have caught something like that there
I think the opposing side of this argument is either arguing what you're claiming, or some of them are saying that there's no way to prove that Apple purposely slowed down older devices to push newer ones.
I agree there's no way to know for sure that Apple is purposely doing this.... but I would agree that the home button lag is a good example of how MIGHT be doing it on purpose.
I'm with you, though, it's far easier to believe that Apple has purposely changed home button behavior on the 7, to push the newer phones. Occam's Razor and all
It is in Apple's best interest to push new phones in any subtle way possible, because they make more money. They don't make money off old phones that have already been sold. (Yes, yes... apps and services..... but they make more off hardware sales. And to further push this conjecture, why did they solder ram to their computers?)
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None of that changes that that part of it all is just conjecture. The continued deflections still don't change that basic reality. When basic reality can't be accepted then it doesn't seem like there's much to discuss.
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If Occam's razor is being considered then Hanlon's razor needs to be considered as well. (That's not even mentioning that a complex planned secret malicious conspiracy is pretty much the opposite of being something that fits with "the simplest explanation".)I think the opposing side of this argument is either arguing what you're claiming, or some of them are saying that there's no way to prove that Apple purposely slowed down older devices to push newer ones.
I agree there's no way to know for sure that Apple is purposely doing this.... but I would agree that the home button lag is a good example of how MIGHT be doing it on purpose.
I'm with you, though, it's far easier to believe that Apple has purposely changed home button behavior on the 7, to push the newer phones. Occam's Razor and all
It is in Apple's best interest to push new phones in any subtle way possible, because they make more money. They don't make money off old phones that have already been sold. (Yes, yes... apps and services..... but they make more off hardware sales. And to further push this conjecture, why did they solder ram to their computers?)
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Hey nice
From Wiki: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"[1][2] or "Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding."
That's sounds about right. Apple's neglect for older iPhones optimization has slowed them down.
Or shall we say Apple is stupid? Haha.
Can't ever accuse you of illogic
So if Apple keeps slowing down the phone to the point that 2 years from now it will (as usual) take 3-4 seconds to open a basic menu its still conjecture?
We can say that it shows that things can happen without there being a specific purpose behind them, let alone a (planned) malicious one. Fairly straightforward when not unnecessarily twisted into something else.Hey nice
From Wiki: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"[1][2] or "Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding."
That's sounds about right. Apple's neglect for older iPhones optimization has slowed them down.
Or shall we say Apple is stupid? Haha.
Can't ever accuse you of illogic
And with all that the fundamental part of it all still just being conjecture applies and holds.
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Ah, the slippery slope. It's almost as if more logical fallacies and repetition of the same ones will somehow make them logical.
Its a very logical argument. Theres only 2 ways this can go. Its either a bug which needs to be fixed or it not a bug in which case its maliciously done. No matter which route it takes, if its not fixed, MY phone is NOT as fun to use as it once was and Apple is responsible for this.
Phones haven’t been slowed down. A bug was fixed in iOS 11 that was introduced in iOS 10.
Yep. This. It happened to my 5s with maps and messages on iOS 10.
Not to mention iPhone 4 and iOS 7.
It doesn't have to be malicious intent for Apple to subscribe to planned obsolescence. It's more like planned DGAF.
Or it was a bug that was fixed, or the speed up was bug and they fixed it. Did Apple ever advertise a “faster” response as a feature? If your phone is not fun to use there are alternatives that are fun(maybe).
Yeah I got burned twice on this till now. I have come up with a better solution. Just do not update. Period. My iPad Pro stays on iOS 10 and my X stays on 11 till I sell of these devices.
For all the hype about A11 Bionic, I can bet Apple will still manage to slow down some aspect of it next year and I am not letting the, ruin such a expensive phone.
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