Apple has you guys by the "balls"

[Lammers]

So your argument is that in the future a tech company may introduce new products and people may be tempted to buy them? Wow, insightful.

 

[Maxwells_Equations]

So your argument is that in the future a tech company may introduce new products and people may be tempted to buy them? Wow, insightful.

I see what you did there. But no...just no.

 

[Bob_DM]

Hmmm, no.

I'm typing this on a mid 2012 mini which is quite honestly still more than adequate for my needs but am thinking of upgrading to an M1 mini simply because of the age of this machine and the fact it has reached the end of the road for OS updates.

Also looking at upgrading my 2017 MBA to a base model M1 MBA simply for the better display while my 2017 still has some trade-in value.

Both those should last me many years into the future.

Upgrading from iMac i5 2.5 32GB Ram and ssd upgrade, because last Adobe updates needs newer MacOS. (High Sierra end of the road for 2011 iMac). Otherwise still capable machine.
Was trying to decide between Mac mini i7 or iMac 27” (I have a nice 27” Eizo screen).
Glad the Mac mini M1 came out before spending about double/triple for about the same performance! (Roughly 3 or 4 times faster then the iMac 2011)

 

[Fthree]

The M1 absolutely does not have the same processing power or graphical power of a top spec 16" MBP.

It can read video codec's more efficiently than intel processors, but don't let that for one minute fool you into thinking it has more processing power than an i9.

key word was essentially I mean come on a $1000 product competing on any level with w $4000+ machine is insane.

 

[1240766]

Yes, Apple got me by the balls....they deserve my business.

 

[Maconplasma]

The M1 absolutely does not have the same processing power or graphical power of a top spec 16" MBP.

It can read video codec's more efficiently than intel processors, but don't let that for one minute fool you into thinking it has more processing power than an i9.

Uh I think you should check out some YouTube reviewers cuz you're dead wrong. The M1 MBP in many tests (especially Final Cut Pro X) beat the 16". In graphics it was very much on par with the Radeon 5500M and beat it in some graphical tests. In Logic Pro X the M1 beat the 16" in terms of how many tracks it could handle at one time. The 16" kept crashing on the test after a certain amount of tracks and the M1 allowed even more tracks to be added on top of what the 16" had and played them perfectly while the system remained very low in heat. The 16" fans were blowing like crazy and it was very hot.

 

[smoking monkey]

That's the unfortunate side effect.

About ~20% of macrumorrs members probably bought a M1 Mac even if it did not fit all their concerns to a T.

M1 Macs represent ~80% of all Macs shipped globally. So from a revenue, margin and cost point of view this is the easiest and cheapest to upgrade en masse. This will provide the most impact for the whole line up in terns of units shipped.

~19% of al Macs shipped globally will get a refresh during an early 2021 Mac event. ~80% probability on March but 100% certainty on a Tuesday. These are probably ~80% of all Macs that macrumors members actually want.

~1% of all Macs shipped globally will get a refresh during WWDC 2021 in June.

In terms of marketing it sends to Intel/AMD that Apple tech is generations better than their tech. Apple's creating products they actually want rather than waiting for Intel or other 3rd parties to comply.

Haha... You crack me up. I can never tell if you're being serious or just trolling. I'd like to think you're having a laugh...

I agree with you on your last point ~100% though!

 

[Nicole1980]

Ha, don't get frustrated over that post. No doubt it's just another Windows user pissed off that the M1 Macs are beating some of the top spec Wintel PC's on the market costing 3 times as much. Apple ain't playin'. PC users are just mad. Just laugh at them.

That’s precious. You suggest the way to respond to allegedly childish “windows users” is to be ... childish.

 

[Maconplasma]

That’s precious. You suggest the way to respond to allegedly childish “windows users” is to be ... childish.

Lordy, you didn't take that literally I hope? When I said to laugh at them I figured you understand that I meant to laugh internally, not post it. ?

 

[BootLoxes]

Hopefully that will be soon since you want to be disrespectful to Apple and to yourself and others by saying such a nasty comment.

Are you alright? Their comment you quoted wasnt disrespectful in any way. They have an m1 air and will not upgrade until it breaks. That is perfectly fine. Not something to wish misfortune on others over

 

[4sallypat]

I bought a MacBook Pro 16" about a year ago and have never regretted a purchase more than that thing. It's too big, it's too heavy. It's not a notebook. It's a desktop replacement. The 13 inch is perfect for my mobile lifestyle, and I can't see myself getting anything larger again.

EXACTLY!

The 16" MBP is heater and then some!

That's what I hate about the 16" - the battery stinks and the heat keeps you from actually using it on your lap!

It's been a desktop computer for almost a year and I can't believe I paid $2500+ w/ AC+.

This M1 is just a peach at 1/3 the price!

 

[Fomalhaut]

The M1 absolutely does not have the same processing power or graphical power of a top spec 16" MBP.

It can read video codec's more efficiently than intel processors, but don't let that for one minute fool you into thinking it has more processing power than an i9.

Define "processing power" for us. If the M1 Mac "processes" your workloads faster than an Intel i9 then, by definition it has better processing power. I don't expect this to apply to every workload, but if it works better for the applications that you use (plus running MacOS) then the M1 would be a better choice. Obviously.

Which workloads / applications do you think will run better on an i9?

You'll need to provide specifics and benchmarks. Making a broad statement without data to back it up does not add to the discussion.

 

[mmomega]

Ok so a little click bait...but hear me out and let me know your thoughts.

Apple releases the M1, a "taste" or "tease" for the M line. Come spring if they release other superior chips it can be argued the same people who just upgraded will upgrade again.

No fault of anyone, we all went crazy over the M1....and rightfully so....it is impressive, new, and efficient....a breath of fresh air.

I mean bravo apple...bravo.

Thoughts.

People have bought every new year of macbook since the last macbook. Intel. PPC. Plastic. Metal. Black and silver and greys and whites. The MacBook Pro always has a superior chip the next go round with a group of people re-buying the very next model for whatever their reasoning is.

Apple has had most of it's purcahsers buy those balls since the iPhone 5.
They are merely squeezing those little fellas tighter with each new line of products. While cup checking Intel.

 

[BootLoxes]

Nothing is missing I disagree with their posts and that’s my opinion and it’s not up for debate and since you cannot leave things alone I’ll be ignoring you.

So you took it personally that someone said they will be using their m1 air until it dies? Even though it was not offensive nor had anything to even do with you, and then wished misfortune on them?

 

[Fomalhaut]

So you took it personally that someone said they will be using their m1 air until it dies? Even though it was not offensive nor had anything to even do with you, and then wished misfortune on them?

 

[Fomalhaut]

So you took it personally that someone said they will be using their m1 air until it dies? Even though it was not offensive nor had anything to even do with you, and then wished misfortune on them?

Apparently, this is what @SchrodingersMartian feels; I've no idea why...it's baffling! I can only assume that he interpreted @acidfast7_redux 's answer as an aggressive reply to the OP, something like:

"screw you!...I ain't being taken by the balls...I'm gonna use my MBA until it dies...and screw you Apple, because I'm not giving you any more of my goddamn money!!".

However, I didn't read it that way at all. @acidfast7_redux merely stated that he won't be tempted to upgrade his machine if Apple releases a new one. That's his choice. Maybe Apple will start sending people around to my house in nicely cut Italian suits, "suggesting" that "isn't it time you upgraded your Mac...you're disrespecting the Capo by not upgrading to this lovely new Mac..let me make you an offer you can't refuse..."

 

[DreamPod]

Doesn’t matter if Apple releases a better M1 later, they aren’t going to release another Mac Mini with it. So no there won’t be anything for me to upgrade to. Maybe in two years they may release an updated Mac Mini, I’ll have had 2 good years of great performance and responsiveness.

 

[maflynn]

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[alien3dx]

That's the unfortunate side effect.

About ~20% of macrumorrs members probably bought a M1 Mac even if it did not fit all their concerns to a T.

M1 Macs represent ~80% of all Macs shipped globally. So from a revenue, margin and cost point of view this is the easiest and cheapest to upgrade en masse. This will provide the most impact for the whole line up in terns of units shipped.

~19% of al Macs shipped globally will get a refresh during an early 2021 Mac event. ~80% probability on March but 100% certainty on a Tuesday. These are probably ~80% of all Macs that macrumors members actually want.

~1% of all Macs shipped globally will get a refresh during WWDC 2021 in June.

In terms of marketing it sends to Intel/AMD that Apple tech is generations better than their tech. Apple's creating products they actually want rather than waiting for Intel or other parties to comply.

not available yet in my country but only to register if available https://bit.ly/3754G0e

 

[romanof]

Digressing here but I grew up playing video games where the box art never ever looks like video game. Now the graphics in games look better than the box art!

Ah. Another dude who can remember the good old days when the gaming companies apparently spent far more on their box cover art than on developing the putrid "game" on the floppy. For about a hundred dollars in today's money, you would get a beautiful HD picture and large print hype (for a machine that might display only 80 x 24 columns of text, or a low def screen of only 4 colors) to enjoy as you loaded a floppy with a "game" written in interpretive Basic and of a quality that any kid could have written in a weekend.

The good old days when the rich kid on the block had - wait for it... 64k of memory in his machine! Wow!

(6502, huh? I was into 8080's and 8085s)

 

[Hexley]

not available yet in my country but only to register if available https://bit.ly/3754G0e

Same issue in PH. We also have a Switch as well but I'm guessing they're not connected in any way.

 

[alien3dx]

Same issue in PH. We also have a Switch as well but I'm guessing they're not connected in any way.

now i'm confuse either they was the same company or not..

 

[grrrz]

Ok so a little click bait...but hear me out and let me know your thoughts.

Apple releases the M1, a "taste" or "tease" for the M line. Come spring if they release other superior chips it can be argued the same people who just upgraded will upgrade again.

In the real world people don't change their computer every two years; let alone every six months. That's true maybe for a handful of crazy people that probably are overrepresented here though. I even bet most people don't care about the new architecture.

 

[alien3dx]

In the real world people don't change their computer every two years; let alone every six months. That's true maybe for a handful of crazy people that probably are overrepresented here though. I even bet most people don't care about the new architecture.

developer here.. mostly in old time windows laptop 1 year to 2 year max and die. the latest die on me imac 2017 .

My lenovo 2007 - still alive
My Acer 4732 - wrackage ( 3years span)
My Unkown acer - wrackage (1 year)
My Mac mini (even sold) - still alive
My Imac 2017 - rest in peace . 3 year..