Apple has you guys by the "balls"

[Hastings101]

Nah, I only bought an M1 Mac Mini as a cheap (for Apple) hobby machine for development and the goodness that is the macOS included apps like GarageBand (amazingly there is truly no easy Windows replacement for that app). Also some mac-only junk I've been missing like Pixelmator Pro. They could release an M2XXX in a few months and I wouldn't be interested.

 

[Maxwells_Equations]

Apple also capped the RAM and prevented eGPU use to avoid sabotaging their Pro line.

 

[Moosebear]

Some time next year, Apple maybe puts out a 14” pro with a slick new design, better speakers and cam, more ports, incrementally faster, some other bells plus a whistle, for perhaps $400 more than the current pro.

And I will yawn at the tiny bezels and bells, because the bigger innovation will have already happened, and be running my creative output for 5 months already.

 

[Fomalhaut]

Some time next year, Apple maybe puts out a 14” pro with a slick new design, better speakers and cam, more ports, incrementally faster, some other bells plus a whistle, for perhaps $400 more than the current pro.

And I will yawn at the tiny bezels and bells, because the bigger innovation will have already happened, and be running my creative output for 5 months already.

I agree that the M1 is the star of the show, and I am also not bothered if it is substantially redesigned or not (although a 14" screen would be nice if it doesn't increase size & weight).

What interests me more is what the next M-series SoC will bring.

Ideally, it would substantially overtake my current MBP16 in performance, especially in terms of GPU power (I have the 5500M). If it could match the AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, and also improve on the M1's CPU performance I would be impressed, and it would be a considerable upgrade my i9 MBP16. As it stands today, an M1 MBP is too close to the MBP16's performance to convince me to replace the latter.

 

[Joelist]

I would assume that we will be seeing Apple change the number when a new core design rolls out and for die shinks or for "bigger" SOCs they will append letters (a la the iPad).

So I expect the MBP 16 to go to, say, the M1X with something like 8 Performance and 4 Efficiency coupled with probably a 12-16 GPU core setup and cache will increase also. They will also probably add more USB-4 capacity and of course the RAM will go to probably a choice between 16 and 32 GB.

 

[macnmac]

dont threaten me with a good time...

 

[grrrz]

developer here.. mostly in old time windows laptop 1 year to 2 year max and die. the latest die on me imac 2017 .

My lenovo 2007 - still alive
My Acer 4732 - wrackage ( 3years span)
My Unkown acer - wrackage (1 year)
My Mac mini (even sold) - still alive
My Imac 2017 - rest in peace . 3 year..

well that's just bad luck. Also mac laptops usually have a longer lifespan than most windows pc's (apart for the overheating / noise problem and generation specific problems).

 

[alien3dx]

well that's just bad luck. Also mac laptops usually have a longer lifespan than most windows pc's (apart for the overheating / noise problem and generation specific problems).

i gor also macbook 2011 (gonna resell ) sponsor new macbook arm. hehe.If available here malaysia (haiya)

** keyboard the main laptop broken first

 

[grrrz]

Apple also capped the RAM and prevented eGPU use to avoid sabotaging their Pro line.

Honestly I don't see how it would be possible to use a GPUs made for x86 architecture with an arm architecture just like that . It's simply not a PC anymore; and I suspect Apple will make GPU dedicated to their chips from now on; wether integrated or not; including on the future arm mac pro.

 

[4sallypat]

Honestly I don't see how it would be possible to use a GPUs made for x86 architecture with an arm architecture just like that . It's simply not a PC anymore; and I suspect Apple will make GPU dedicated to their chips from now on; wether integrated or not; including on the future arm mac pro.

This is correct - ARM is not an Intel so I can see Apple creating their own video processors just like their M1 SOC.....

Just like Windows can no longer exist in a M1 natively....

 

[vigilant]

Ok so a little click bait...but hear me out and let me know your thoughts.

Apple releases the M1, a "taste" or "tease" for the M line. Come spring if they release other superior chips it can be argued the same people who just upgraded will upgrade again.

No fault of anyone, we all went crazy over the M1....and rightfully so....it is impressive, new, and efficient....a breath of fresh air.

I mean bravo apple...bravo.

I totally "hear you" on this... but I think this is likely all we're going to see out of the M1 until the M2. If there was a past path to quad thunderbolt, 32GB of memory, and more performance I think they just would have announced it all at once.

The M1, to me at least, is the first of this line, and while a great chips, I think it will be the M2 where we see things to start to spread out a bit more into other use cases.

 

[Pressure]

Honestly I don't see how it would be possible to use a GPUs made for x86 architecture with an arm architecture just like that . It's simply not a PC anymore; and I suspect Apple will make GPU dedicated to their chips from now on; wether integrated or not; including on the future arm mac pro.

You just need drivers. Graphic cards aren’t made for x86.

 

[Joelist]

Apple already has its own GPU. Also its own CPU design - it is 100% Apple in house and NOT an ARM reference design like Cortex.

Apple also has no motivation to mess up their Unified Memory Model (please look up Apple's model as it does not work the same as others do) to have a separate GPU package. They were explicit at WWDC - the Apple Silicon path for Mac is a family of SoCs and that means GPU in package.

 

[dmccloud]

This is correct - ARM is not an Intel so I can see Apple creating their own video processors just like their M1 SOC.....

Just like Windows can no longer exist in a M1 natively....

Windows could run natively in the M1 if Microsoft opens up the licensing restrictions for Windows on ARM. People are already running it using the Insider preview build and some other assorted trickery.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

I won't upgrade again until my m1mba fails.

I’m also upgrading from a 2008 iMac .

 

[grrrz]

You just need drivers. Graphic cards aren’t made for x86.

If so; I stand corrected; but still I doubt that Apple will allow any computer of his new lineup to run external third-party GPU. plus you still need to develop said drivers.