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aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
12,292
1,403
Apple makes great products - they just forgot their roots - the "pro-sumer."
Gesh, two of the things you're complaining about (MobileMe's and its push feature and Exchange ActiveSync on the iPhone) are both perfect examples of prosumer features. So is the Mac Pro + Logic combo that you do your ochiphop on. :eek:

It was die-hard fans like ME that kept them from going bankrupt by spreading and keeping the news about how GOOD the company and products were.
Maybe it's time for a changing of the guard. The luster of anything eventually gets old the more you hang around it, and it sounds like your time with Apple is up.

Having not discovered Apple until a few years ago (far from being 12 at the first WWDC) and still having daily contact with "the dark side" (I help maintain a huge Windows infrastructure for a living, and I'm the Windows-fix-it guy on my street at home), I'm one of the many people who are still thrilled with how Apple's products currently ARE.

The MobileMe launch was a disaster, and the iPhone 2.0 software does have bugs. MobileMe is already better (and getting better every day) and iPhone 2.0.1 is probably only a few weeks away, and 2.1 is a month or two down the road.

I compare that to my experience of having Windows Mobile since the days you had to import the phones from Europe because no US carrier had them yet, and I have yet to see someone deliver an experience (or bug fixes) nearly as well or quickly as Apple currently DOES.

So when I see you say "I'm done with Apple" because of this temporary issues (bringing you the prosumer features you say Apple's missing) I seriously do wonder where you're going to find a better experience.

So when I backed up the secondary iPhone it replaced the old file, and somehow the new backup wasn't clean. Thus - no contacts, and cannot be restored.
How exactly did your wife get contacts on her iPhone in the first place -- type them all in manually?

iTunes does a perfectly fine job with synching iPhone contacts to the Mac "Address Book" application. I'm pretty sure that's how most Mac owners do it. Works the same with with ActiveSync on Windows, since you seem to be familiar with Windows Mobile (on the Tilt).

For couples like you sharing one computer with one logon, they simply create two groups (again, in Address Book) and then you tell iTunes to only sync the appropriate group to the appropriate iPhone.

IMO, there's zero reason to have to depend on the iPhone backup process for maintaining your address book.

And BTW, demi-gods are showing their support for this website, not Apple. They're often the most vocal when Apple screws up, like with MobileMe.
 

FreeState

macrumors 68000
Jun 24, 2004
1,741
118
San Diego, CA
After the disaster of the switch to mobile me, they gave me a whopping 30 day extension (mind you I almost lost my escrow because I couldn't access an important document) and said they weren't going to use the term "Push" for contacts because of an evil storm cloud or some such nonsense. Sure enough, their commercials still claim instantly updated push data. Wow.

Are you smoking crack? Seriously - show me the ad that references MobileMe. Here is a hint - MobileMe is not in any advertisement running on the air.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/ads/
 

sushi

Moderator emeritus
Jul 19, 2002
15,639
3
キャンプスワ&#
I said that was unacceptable, and I demanded to know the name of the government agency that Mobile Me is overseen by - the FCC for example - so I can file a complaint.
Have fun in your pursuit.

Thanks to Apple I have a pissed off wife so I had to cook my own dinner (Hot Pockets which were actually quite tasty) and my Xbox time was cut short because I had to find and charge her old blackberry pearl. blah.
Ah, so now we see the real root of the problem

Curious, why is your wife upset at you when she is actually pissed off at MobileMe? That doesn't sound good...
 

flashvenom

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jul 25, 2008
10
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heh. Yeah yeah. Great comments guys (lame). Hope you enjoyed the post. Apple sucks. I'm done. The FCC is the right place to go, so laugh all you want you dimwits.
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
12,292
1,403
Out of curiosity, what method are you using to contact the FCC? I'd like to
follow suit and see exactly what federal mandates over email that they have.

AFAIK, the only Internet stuff that they deal with is down at the packet level, not social policies like email availability.

So whats your plan, venom? Vista on a Dell workstation with Windows Mobile for you and your wife?
 

tsice19

macrumors 6502a
Feb 16, 2008
703
0
heh. Yeah yeah. Great comments guys (lame). Hope you enjoyed the post. Apple sucks. I'm done. The FCC is the right place to go, so laugh all you want you dimwits.

If Apple sucks so bad, then why are you still coming to Mac Rumors?

Oh, and if you hate Apple, PM me and I'll take all that Apple hardware/software you have on your hands.
 

Jaydhil24

macrumors member
Apr 27, 2008
31
0
You will come running back to apple and do not purchase new products because you are going to end up being a guinea pig.
 

Feverish Flux

macrumors regular
Sep 27, 2007
147
0
Wow. Mobile Me really does suck. For this LONG LONG LONG-time Apple fanatic, it really is the last straw. Let me start off my saying I am typing this in notepad because my mobile me service is down (... again) and I can't confirm my macrumor account. I'll have to post it later after I find out what's happening (After waiting 25 minutes to chat with a support rep online)

SO now, besides the fact that the webmail service is SLOW and unintuitive (I can't jump pages for one example) it just plain doesn't work half the time from my experience, and, IE7 isn't even supported, so I have to use Firefox which just doesn't work for me at my office.

After the disaster of the switch to mobile me, they gave me a whopping 30 day extension (mind you I almost lost my escrow because I couldn't access an important document) and said they weren't going to use the term "Push" for contacts because of an evil storm cloud or some such nonsense. Sure enough, their commercials still claim instantly updated push data. Wow.

Oh yeah, upgraded me and my wife's iPhone to the big 2.0 update a couple days ago- my wife lost all of her contacts. "The backup file is corrupt." Great. And still cannot access data from my exchange server with my iPhone, despite the fact that I have set up 3 Tilts (which I love more and more each day) with no problems. After being ping-ponged between ATT and Apple for support (Apple concluded "You need the Enterprise data plan", and ATT responded "That plan is only for the iPhone 3G!") But I do have monkey ball and a virtual beer to drain my frustration.

I'm throwing up my hands. I'm done. Like that Family Guy episode where he's watching a chick flick. "DONE!" I will not buy another Apple product. Enough of this love-hate relationship. I'd rather be abused from Microsoft because at least I'll know what I'm getting into.

I bought $100 worth of music the night before a DJ gig, and realized I can't MIX this music with serrato scratch. I should have known - for a while Apple was selling MP3s again (am I trippin?) And when I asked Apple for a refund? NOPE they'll only refund one of my purchases- and they refunded the cheapest one. Had to burn everything to a CD and re-rip. Jesus' mother Mary and Joseph.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Apple what have you become. I realize I look EXACTLY like the stereotypical apple employee freaks I see in the stores - young, edgy hair-cut, LA fashion sense (even in OC go figure), cool attitude but still plenty dorkish. I used to be such a huge fan. Now I find myself slowly switching over to the dark side.

Damn you iPod. It's all your fault. Apple tasted the sweet sweet nectar of mass appeal and everything went down hill.

What were you hoping to accomplish by posting all of this? :confused:
 

Digital Skunk

macrumors G3
Dec 23, 2006
8,100
930
In my imagination
There go that 2% of the people that are affected by the MobileMe switch :rolleyes:

This post is ridiculous.

And full of wrong info by the OP and FUD by those that support him.

When has anything ever worked perfectly? :rolleyes:

flashvenom, you're wrong and you aren't that much of a bad @$$ Apple fan. Just stop.
 

flashvenom

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jul 25, 2008
10
0
I think I'm going Linux.

That's right. As far as geeks go, I AM a bad person.

I'll manage my own contacts on one device. Thanks for the offer, Apple.

I'll post the response from the FCC - if I get one. They've been very helpful to me in the past - ATT did a 180 after they were contacted on my behalf. I'm a VERY demanding consumer. YES I do expect my hard earned money to buy products that WORK reasonably well, from the first day I buy them. 30 days free? Uh, no thanks Apple.

Realistically, I can't immediately stop using Apple. But I won't buy another Apple product for my personal, 'pro-sumer' use, and I definitely won't recommend them to my friends - as emphatically, anyways.

As I find myself programming more and more ($$$), and doing less and less graphics (half-decent designers are a dime a dozen these days) I find myself more and more comfortable with Windows. XP feels snappy, precise, and relatively stable. OS X feels smooth, clean and fairly reliable.

As I stated earlier MobileMe was the straw that broke the camel's back. Never hoped to accomplish anything more than to put my thoughts in writing so I could see them for myself. So sorry I had to corrupt your obviously mac-orientated macforums. I'll miss you too.

That is all.
 

Silver-Fox

macrumors 65816
Jan 8, 2007
1,091
2
England
heh. Yeah yeah. Great comments guys (lame). Hope you enjoyed the post. Apple sucks. I'm done. The FCC is the right place to go, so laugh all you want you dimwits.

Man you are funny :rolleyes:

Have fun complaining to The FCC, im sure they wont care, like none of us
 

mercuryjones

macrumors 6502a
May 31, 2005
786
0
College Station, TX
I think I'm going Linux.

<whine whine whine snipped>

That is all.


Thanks for the update.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

By the way, when you get some piece of hardware/software that doesn't work quite right with your Linux box, be sure to complain to a random web forum about that too, and see what kind of response you get, and then compare the two.
 
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