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Even before the iPhone, my phone was a "bar" phone (which is essentially what the IPhone is).

No interest in a folding iPhone, flip phone, slide out phone or any other design that is just something else to break.
 
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Let each of these pictures be worth a thousand words, though coming not from Apple:
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^^^^^Why do I need this?

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They could be my children's future. They are not mine.

I know what I like, and it's not a foldable phone. I'm 52 and I don't see my opinion on that changing before I die.
I’m sorry but I find this mindset so odd. There is so much potential in the future of this category. Super thin screens. Water and dust proof. I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t be interested in a screen that expands easily when unfolded that you carry in a front pocket.
 
I’m sorry but I find this mindset so odd. There is so much potential in the future of this category. Super thin screens. Water and dust proof. I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t be interested in a screen that expands easily when unfolded that you carry in a front pocket.
Because I don't need what a foldable offers. I use my phone for phone calls, light email and texting and some light news/web browsing when I'm out. That's all I use it for.

I prefer and have always preferred much larger screens. I doubt a foldable is going to expand into my 55" HDTV, or my 30" Cinema Displays for that matter. One day I hope to have TVs larger than 75 inches as well. That's where my entertainment and other stuff is consumed, not my phone.

And the career I've chosen and the fact that I can work from home means this isn't necessary to my job.

I do have an iPad for reading in bed. I don't need my phone to fold out for that either.
 
I’m sorry but I find this mindset so odd. There is so much potential in the future of this category. Super thin screens. Water and dust proof. I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t be interested in a screen that expands easily when unfolded that you carry in a front pocket.

Because it's a phone, not a laptop.

The current Pro Max screen size is as big as it needs to be for what I use a phone for.

If I need to do something that requires a bigger screen, I'm on a laptop.
 
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Google is releasing a foldable whose images have been leaked.
Samsung is on their 4th-generation foldable.
Even Microsoft has a kind of foldable for sale.

Thanks to Google's new foldable, there will now be 3 foldables available in the US from major tech companies, and Apple, the inventor of the modern smartphone, will not be among them. I know Tim Cook is the "most successful CEO ever" when measured by the increase in his company's market capitalization, but it's embarrassing that the inventor of the modern smartphone was beaten to foldables by the competition.

Embarrassing to Apple. Apple has historically lagged behind the competition in screen size.

Samsung's 2011 Galaxy Note had a 5.3-inch screen when Apple’s iPhone 4S only had a 3.5-inch screen.
Samsung's 2012 Galaxy S III had a 4.8-inch screen when Apple’s iPhone 5 only had a 4-inch one.
In 2019, when Samsung released the Galaxy Fold, its 7.3-inch screen had 65% more screen area than the iPhone 11 Pro Max’s 6.46-inch screen.

It’s about time Apple caught up to Samsung in the screen size race and release their own foldable. (Although only Apple was brave enough to release a mini, which I hope they do again.)
First, why do you care? I can assure you investors don’t. Whatever apple releases, as long as they can count thousands Of dollar bills all day or see their six figure investment return or more in their bank account, they will be happy regardless. Second, please have a read of below quote again, and try to understand why he says so.
So what. Apple has always lagged behind. They don't seem to have any problems selling the iPhone.

And why do you care anyway?

Is Apple going to be hurt financially? Is not having a foldable phone the death knell for Apple?

If Apple is embarrassed, why do you think they will care? Apple has a long history of taking away stuff from its own customers and telling those customers 'take it or leave it'.

Yet Apple is still here.

Is it possible that it's just you that is embarrassed by this?
Third, foldable is still and will continue to be novelty for a long time. Yes, Apple don’t get to design products themselves, market does, but market isn’t a “Be all and all” either. Plus, current foldables still leave much to be desired, and Apple would not want to spend too much into it and make investors unhappy. I for one would not be bothered about a foldable anytime soon Simply because of the price tag.

Of course, somewhere in Apple campus there must be a prototype being carefully examined and debugged by engineers, however they won’t release it unless they feel ok.
 
Wow! You look screened-out! And if that weren't enough, you could unfold your laptop on the shelf of the white table for another screen! eyoungren, I promise I won't try to sell you another screen. I'll try to sell everyone else one, though!
For someone who Carries iPad out instead of iPhone regularly foldable phone brings no benefit.
 
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But Apple is in danger of iPhone sales cooling down if the smartphone concept isn't made "cool" and interesting again. There haven't been many revolutionary changes to the smartphone in a long time. Foldables are new, at least for Apple, and therefore could rejuvenate interest and sales in smartphones again. That same-old slab form factor is starting to get samey!
Think of all this in terms whether it worth selling from Apple's perspective to begin with?
  • The first thing to consider is that Apple doesn't announce products until they're ready. Yeah they don't market beforehand. So it has to be instantly marketable.
  • Next, Apple typically positions products as a solution to a problem, highlighting quality and innovation.
  • If it seems less like an answer to a problem and more of a "look at this tech wizardry, what can we do with it?!"
  • And the cool factor, as ingenious as it is, does it come at the expense of features we expect from regular phones, including battery life, ergonomics, software experience and price? Those buyers are not easily satisfied.
  • If Apple were to release a foldable iPhone, what problem would it solve?
Using those thoughts think foldable phones are that attractive to how Apple considers iPhone designs?
 
When apple enters the foldable market, they will take it from ultra niche to more mainstream.

They will do the same with headsets.

Just like smartphones became the norm because of iPhone, so will foldables and headsets.
Smartphones became the norm because 3g did.
 
Think of all this in terms whether it worth selling from Apple's perspective to begin with?
  • Next, Apple typically positions products as a solution to a problem, highlighting quality and innovation.
  • If Apple were to release a foldable iPhone, what problem would it solve?
Using those thoughts think foldable phones are that attractive to how Apple considers iPhone designs?
I'll focus on these two points. While the first version of an electronic is advertised as a solution to a problem, all iterations that follow are either updates (though not necessarily upgrades), or repackagings of the same product with a different screen size, like sausages being cut into different lengths before being sold at the right price per ounce.

And on that metaphor, a foldable iPhone would be the "big kahuna" of iPhones, offering the largest possible screen size that could fit in your pocket. The largest screen wouldn't be within everyone's budget, but the concept is clear.
 
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And on that metaphor, a foldable iPhone would be the "big kahuna" of iPhones, offering the largest possible screen size that could fit in your pocket. The largest screen wouldn't be within everyone's budget, but the concept is clear.
Ahh so you are just focusing on a iphone that becomes a iPad and all the bugs that go with it. Do you know why up to now Apple has never done this because you are stuck with iOS, not that IOS suddenly behaves like iPadOS with some multitasking and Apps that have more depth to them. Also the browser with iOS doesn't always reflect a desktop it defaults sometimes as a mobile, where as IPadOS it works as a desktop browser.

We gone many times down the road asking why does apple sell a iPhone that looks like a iPad, and here you go thinking that is so easy, well I don't. Yeah the getting a iPadOS device to operate like a iPhone or visa versus is like walking up a street with a 45 degree hill.
 
Because it's a phone, not a laptop.

The current Pro Max screen size is as big as it needs to be for what I use a phone for.

If I need to do something that requires a bigger screen, I'm on a laptop.
I’d rather have an 8” screen in my pocket. And that’s what a foldable offers.
 
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I am not the least interested in a foldable iPhone, but if all those of you who want one, be my guest.
What we all think and say is not going change the market one iota.
 
Ahh so you are just focusing on a iphone that becomes a iPad and all the bugs that go with it. Do you know why up to now Apple has never done this because you are stuck with iOS, not that IOS suddenly behaves like iPadOS with some multitasking and Apps that have more depth to them. Also the browser with iOS doesn't always reflect a desktop it defaults sometimes as a mobile, where as IPadOS it works as a desktop browser.

We gone many times down the road asking why does apple sell a iPhone that looks like a iPad, and here you go thinking that is so easy, well I don't. Yeah the getting a iPadOS device to operate like a iPhone or visa versus is like walking up a street with a 45 degree hill.
I completely agree with you. The hardest part of making a foldable is not minimizing the crease, improving durability, or prolonging battery life, but optimizing the software for the inner display as Dave from Dave2D has said.

The easy benefit of an inner display is displaying two original aspect ratio iOS apps side-by-side for multitasking.
The difficulty of optimizing the software comes from stretching a single iOS app to screen proportions that app was never designed for. Apple would need to create a new standard for iOS apps called Optimized for iPhone Fold™, or some equivalent.
 
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I have some colleagues with foldable Samsung phones. All of them have bubbles in the middle of the screen. You can very clearly see the screen doesn’t look good after thousands of folding/unfolding. And add that they’re extremely expensive.

I hope the iPhone Fold never releases.
 
The thing is why does that matter. Doesn't matter which side anyone is, why are we rooting for any of them?

It's the same with people taking sides with online YouTube/Twitter/Twitch beefs. It's just plain silly.
Fair enough, why root for any of them? I just get irked when I see a company just “follow” others, only to be always be financially rewarded for it to a greater degree than the others. Then, to go on further and financially exploit its customers as much as possible.
 
I’ve yet to see a foldable that looks practical and that actually has meaningful purpose.
Maaaaybe the ones that does that classic flip phone thing.

an iphone that open up to a tablet will only canabalize apples ipad market shares, I don’t see them doing it.
 
But Apple is in danger of iPhone sales cooling down if the smartphone concept isn't made "cool" and interesting again. There haven't been many revolutionary changes to the smartphone in a long time. Foldables are new, at least for Apple, and therefore could rejuvenate interest and sales in smartphones again. That same-old slab form factor is starting to get samey!
Fun fact only apple is only one where sales are level or up. Other's are seeing a big decline year on year.

I'm sure apple will bring out a foldable but not like we know now. likely a tablet or bigger. I just don't see them putting much focus on them due to the AR/VR future they seem to have planned
 
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