Apple is losing me: that's why.

[Shanghaichica]

Who looks at TechRadar? It's a low budget no name site. Anandtech on the other hand has industry wide respect.

Considering that the editor had just left to join Apple, I think we can question their objectivity.

However personally I don't care what tech sites say too much. I'd rather listen to real consumers reviews/opinions. Based on sales I'd say that the iPhone is highly regarded by costumers.

 

[petvas]

Considering that the editor had just left to join Apple, I think we can question their objectivity.

However personally I don't care what tech sites say too much. I'd rather listen to real consumers reviews/opinions. Based on sales I'd say that the iPhone is highly regarded by costumers.

You are kidding, right?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Considering that the editor had just left to join Apple, I think we can question their objectivity.

However personally I don't care what tech sites say too much. I'd rather listen to real consumers reviews/opinions. Based on sales I'd say that the iPhone is highly regarded by costumers.

I think every tech site gets accused of being biased from multiple sides if they publish articles that compliment or criticise certain products. I've read Tech Radar amongst many for years and have seen Apple articles get jumped over for being too complimentary, yet when they share criticisms, its not credited. When sites employ many authors to review products of course you are going to get differing opinions and Tech Radar is no different.

You can't please everybody because we all have different opinions in relation to how we use and what we expect from mobile devices. Crying foul when others don't back up our opinions is far too easy. I think we should be grateful to the many tech sites for taking the time to review products that allow us to make choices on what we buy. Its extremely rare you will get a completely impartial view from a human being.

 

[Oletros]

The average consumer does not want to wade through hundreds of features and customization options. They want a phone that just works.

Those phones just work. Where is the contradiction between having features and working out of the box?

 

[Abazigal]

Those phones just work. Where is the contradiction between having features and working out of the box?

None.

There is nothing saying that having features is mutually exclusive with working right out of the box. You are right in that it is possible to have a fully-featured, complex smartphone which works with minimal tinkering. However, the issue is that nobody has yet managed to do this successfully.

Right now at least, there seems to be some sort of direct correlation between the amount of feature bloat in a phone, and its impact on performance. The smoothest OSes so far are iOS and stock Android. Touchwiz has the most features, and is perhaps the laggiest. The rest lie somewhere in the middle.

So until someone manages to crack this relationship, we are stuck with having to make this sort of tradeoffs, IMO.

 

[Savor]

The most buzz from the tech reviewers all year has been a smartphone very hard to get and disrupting the market with its price. Forget iPhone-killer. They went ahead and called it a flagship-killer and to NEVER SETTLE. Arrogance but with a confidence knowing it will sellout. Last year, it was a model with the same name but from a Taiwanese company. You can see it on my avatar.

The iPhone 6 should sellout quick initially. The buzz about iPhones are starting to flame out faster. Too many excellent Androids get released. Nexus X hasn't been announced yet. Then we have quite a few excellent and affordable alternatives like the Asus Zenfone 4, 5, 6, and Moto G and E. After like 7 different generations and presentations of iPhones, you would think it would get redundant. It has. It will never be as exciting like the old days when iPhone was still fresh and new to us.

Watch that 6 minute video of 6 years of iPhones. The presentation got worse and worse after SJ once Phil & Tim started to present.

 

[jrswizzle]

That remains to be seen. I need to see just how good the sharing options are and how far iCloud drive goes in addressing the lack of a filing system.

Sharing options will be as good as developer make them....based on other iOS apps from these same devs, I'd bet it'll be really good.

As for the file system.....I'm not sure anyone who is so attached to it as to make it a main reason why they purchase certain smartphones will ever be able to move away from it. There are numerous ways to get around a traditional file system.....I've never needed one in all the years I've owned an iPhone....and I always hate navigating it on my Nexus 5.

It's all about adapting to new UIs and processes. The filesystem is old - at least the traditional UI for it is (the file system as an organizational method for system files will likely always remain).

It's all about what you are used to. Those who are attached to the file system find it difficult to do things differently. Not a bad thing - just saying I doubt you'll be satisfied with iCloud Drive as I don't see it working the same way as the standard file system on Android or a PC.

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The most buzz from the tech reviewers all year has been a smartphone very hard to get and disrupting the market with its price. Forget iPhone-killer. They went ahead and called it a flagship-killer and to NEVER SETTLE. Arrogance but with a confidence knowing it will sellout. Last year, it was a model with the same name but from a Taiwanese company. You can see it on my avatar.

The iPhone 6 should sellout quick initially. The buzz about iPhones are starting to flame out faster. Too many excellent Androids get released. Nexus X hasn't been announced yet. Then we have quite a few excellent and affordable alternatives like the Asus Zenfone 4, 5, 6, and Moto G and E. After like 7 different generations and presentations of iPhones, you would think it would get redundant. It has. It will never be as exciting like the old days when iPhone was still fresh and new to us.

Watch that 6 minute video of 6 years of iPhones. The presentation got worse and worse after SJ once Phil & Tim started to present.

Did you watch Samsung's keynote this morning? Apple still DOMINATES the keynote by a wide margin.....

Honestly, despite a little dip I think they've actually gotten really good now that they've identified Hair Force 1 as their superstar. He's absolutely phenomenal on stage.

Hence why he has done more than half the keynote the last few times.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Sharing options will be as good as developer make them....based on other iOS apps from these same devs, I'd bet it'll be really good.

As for the file system.....I'm not sure anyone who is so attached to it as to make it a main reason why they purchase certain smartphones will ever be able to move away from it. There are numerous ways to get around a traditional file system.....I've never needed one in all the years I've owned an iPhone....and I always hate navigating it on my Nexus 5.

It's all about adapting to new UIs and processes. The filesystem is old - at least the traditional UI for it is (the file system as an organizational method for system files will likely always remain).

It's all about what you are used to. Those who are attached to the file system find it difficult to do things differently. Not a bad thing - just saying I doubt you'll be satisfied with iCloud Drive as I don't see it working the same way as the standard file system on Android or a PC.

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Did you watch Samsung's keynote this morning? Apple still DOMINATES the keynote by a wide margin.....

Honestly, despite a little dip I think they've actually gotten really good now that they've identified Hair Force 1 as their superstar. He's absolutely phenomenal on stage.

Hence why he has done more than half the keynote the last few times.

Don't really care about the keynote. I'm more interested in the devices. However the young Korean chap whose name I can't remember is a bit of eye candy. Sorry but Tim Cook et al don't do it for me on that note lol

 

[jrswizzle]

Don't really care about the keynote. I'm more interested in the devices. However the young Korean chap whose name I can't remember is a bit of eye candy. Sorry but Tim Cook et al don't do it for me on that note lol

Ahh, well in that case I guess it can't be helped....

 

[grahamperrin]

Wrong, and wrong …

Good luck with....umm...

...windows 8? ROFL. …

Go ahead, roll on the floor, it's your own joke, AxoNeuron, you're entitled to laugh at yourself. Your own imagination. It's clear that you have not read enough to understand.

… Some people are just stuck in the past and cannot stand change.

As your post was a reply to one of mine, I guess that you imagine me being stuck in the past, not standing change.

Roll, roll on the floor and know that on both points, AxoNeuron you're wrong, AxoNeuron you're wrong.

 

[Technarchy]

I'm liking the design of iOS 8 and iPhone 6 based upon leaks.

The 1GB of RAM is incredibly concerning.

I will not be first in line for iPhone 6, but it does have my interest.

 

[jrswizzle]

I'm liking the design of iOS 8 and iPhone 6 based upon leaks.

The 1GB of RAM is incredibly concerning.

I will not be first in line for iPhone 6, but it does have my interest.

I'm not too troubled by it on either iPhone. I have no issues with reloading tabs on my iPhone 5S - or even on my iPad rMini.

I have seen it on the Air though. I would be concerned if the Air came with less than 2 GB of RAM.

 

[SpoonCody]

Those phones just work. Where is the contradiction between having features and working out of the box?

My Moto X worked splendidly out of the box. And where I wanted more features, I was able to get them.

I think it's a mistake that people are conflating the concepts of 1) features, and 2) freedom to customize.

The latter makes a world of a difference in the end user experience. And not just aesthetically (though that's still a very nice bonus). Customization allows the phone to cater to me and my usage, needs, preferences; and not the other way around.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Also, you conveniently left out the second part of my post....but I've come to expect this from you.

Do you even know why the reloads happen? Do you know why extra RAM would help in certain situations and not in others?

Even when I try to be civil, I get drivel like this. I don't think you're really fooling anyone here.

Classic SpoonCody.....

Don't worry your original post is there for the rest if us to read in context. I agree about the 1gb, it doesn't bother me on my phone but on my iPad Air the reloading can be annoying. I'd be surprised if the next iPhone includes just 1 gb to be honest.

 

[jrswizzle]

Don't worry your original post is there for the rest if us to read in context. I agree about the 1gb, it doesn't bother me on my phone but on my iPad Air the reloading can be annoying. I'd be surprised if the next iPhone includes just 1 gb to be honest.

Oh me too - I'm still pretty adamant that whatever iDevices are released this year will contain 2 GB of RAM.....but the recent reports have tempered my predictions somewhat.....

If you look at history, this would be the year Apple would move to 2GB. Like I said - I haven't seen any of the reloads on my 5C, 5S or rMini. I've tested and inquired (from people more knowledgeable than I) about it and I've been told the reason why the Air suffers has to do with the size of the display and resolution - meaning the pages that are cached are far bigger and therefore fewer can be held in the 1GB than smaller devices.

If that is truly the case, it would follow that if the rMini doesn't have this issue, neither would smaller iPhones (at 4.7" and 5.5"). Would I like more RAM? Sure - why not. Couldn't hurt. But it isn't absolutely necessary in devices smaller than the rMini.....

Again - if the Air 2 comes with 1 GB of RAM, I'll be right here to criticize the decision as there is a clear need there that needs to be addressed.

I'm still confident Apple will take care of it.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Lets take it down a notch and stop with the bickering.

 

[grahamperrin]

OT: TechRadar

(Deleted by author; probably a notch in the wrong direction.)

 

[mrex]

Again - if the Air 2 comes with 1 GB of RAM, I'll be right here to criticize the decision as there is a clear need there that needs to be addressed.

I'm still confident Apple will take care of it.

this is a dilemma. if they add more memory, they admit that the air1 was a mistake and people get angry. if air2 has more memory, developers take full advantage of it. this means that there will be apps only compatible with air2 and again people who owns or ust bought air1 get angry again.

i sold mine because air with 1gb ram in the first place was a mistake and i dont believe apple can fix e.g. safari issues. if they could they would have done it earlier.

i dont buy air2 if it is only a facelift with fp-sensor. not sure will i buy it at all. actually im more interested in seeing pro version. but we will see...

 

[jrswizzle]

this is a dilemma. if they add more memory, they admit that the air1 was a mistake and people get angry. if air2 has more memory, developers take full advantage of it. this means that there will be apps only compatible with air2 and again people who owns or ust bought air1 get angry again.

i sold mine because air with 1gb ram in the first place was a mistake and i dont believe apple can fix e.g. safari issues. if they could they would have done it earlier.

i dont buy air2 if it is only a facelift with fp-sensor. not sure will i buy it at all. actually im more interested in seeing pro version. but we will see...

What? How are they admitting a mistake? And what apps are going to take up so much RAM as to only be compatible with 2GB?

Apple doesn't work this way. They optimize everything so as to run on the most efficient hardware possible. If that's 1GB or RAM, so be it. The Air has shown some user experience issues and will likely get 2GB or RAM....

But I think all the new iPhones and iPads will get 2GB of RAM. Look at the history of RAM in iPhones....doubles every two years. This will be the year they double.

 

[mrex]

air1 is only a year old

 

[gotluck]

I hope next gen has 1gb ram for my own selfish, I dont want to upgrade my air 1 reasons..

I just have doubts for the device going forward if this gen comes with 2gb.

I'd love to be idealistic and think apple will optimize, but this may smell like an ipad 3 scenario

jrswizzle I dont understand how you can claim only the air has ram issues, the mini has the same resolution no? There is no difference to my computer whether I plug in a 20" or 30" monitor, its the resolution that causes the stress on the hardware.

 

[petvas]

this is a dilemma. if they add more memory, they admit that the air1 was a mistake and people get angry. if air2 has more memory, developers take full advantage of it. this means that there will be apps only compatible with air2 and again people who owns or ust bought air1 get angry again.

i sold mine because air with 1gb ram in the first place was a mistake and i dont believe apple can fix e.g. safari issues. if they could they would have done it earlier.

i dont buy air2 if it is only a facelift with fp-sensor. not sure will i buy it at all. actually im more interested in seeing pro version. but we will see...

Apple never talks about RAM on its products, so there is nothing for them to admit.

 

[ob81]

If apps had the same functionality and variety on android or windows that iOS has, a lot of us would have left a long time ago; we just don't know it.

We get excited about features that have been on Android for years. Perfected features that Apple brings and presents them as new. That drop-down notification thing is bland and I rarely use it. Probably because it is too much info on one screen.

Oh wow! Three years later we are going to get widgets. This is a feature we should have had a while ago. I remember when I put my iPhone 4 next to the original Evo. I should have done the switch then. If the 6 is a bigger 5 and smaller mini, I am putting my money on a true smart phone, that cares more about the experience, as well as getting the job done.

 

[jrswizzle]

I hope next gen has 1gb ram for my own selfish, I dont want to upgrade my air 1 reasons..

I just have doubts for the device going forward if this gen comes with 2gb.

I'd love to be idealistic and think apple will optimize, but this may smell like an ipad 3 scenario

jrswizzle I dont understand how you can claim only the air has ram issues, the mini has the same resolution no? There is no difference to my computer whether I plug in a 20" or 30" monitor, its the resolution that causes the stress on the hardware.

I'm just passing along what has been said by other people on these forums. I have a retina mini and haven't had any issues with tab reloading or anything like that. People have complained about it, pointing to the 1 GB of RAM as the culprit.

When I counter with my rMini not having these issues, I was told the Air is the device with the problem mainly and it had to do with the larger display. I understand they have the same resolution and same pixel count so I'm not sure what the difference is. But that's what I've been told.

Still think we see 2GB of RAM in both iPhone 6's and iPad rMini 2 and Air 2. So I think it'll be a moot point.

In the case the of the 3rd Gen iPad, they were rushing to get the retina display out. No such rushing of any feature this go around. Don't base anything off the 3rd gen iPad....it's the red-headed step child of the Apple lineup.

Look at the iPhone line - doubling of RAM every two years ever since the 3G. The iPhone 5/5S (and 5C) all have 1 GB of RAM. That's a two year cycle so it only makes sense we see 2GB in the 6's.

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If apps had the same functionality and variety on android or windows that iOS has, a lot of us would have left a long time ago; we just don't know it.

We get excited about features that have been on Android for years. Perfected features that Apple brings and presents them as new. That drop-down notification thing is bland and I rarely use it. Probably because it is too much info on one screen.

Oh wow! Three years later we are going to get widgets. This is a feature we should have had a while ago. I remember when I put my iPhone 4 next to the original Evo. I should have done the switch then. If the 6 is a bigger 5 and smaller mini, I am putting my money on a true smart phone, that cares more about the experience, as well as getting the job done.

So the notification center is bland, yet it has too much information and that's why you don't use it?

So what about features that have been on iOS for years that Android is only recently getting (or doesn't yet have)?

What specifically about an iPhone makes it not a true smart phone?

 

[Altis]

Huh? iOS 7 and 8 have addressed nearly every shortcoming iOS has.....

Aside from playstation controller support, theming and torrents, I'm not sure what's left? Certainly nothing WP8 has....

Just from that post of mine you quoted, here's some ideas..

....They still refuse to add some basic features such as a dark theme (or flux-like ability) or address incessant app/tab refreshes or post-animation delays, or a Music app that is improved at all (a proper equalizer, queue function)....

Actual multitasking would sure be nice. The ability to choose default apps wouldn't be such a bad thing. Perhaps being able to have some useful information on the home screen. There are a ton of very useful things that people want (and enjoy in a Jailbreak or on another platform).

Even iOS 8 seems to only give a few useful little things. Most of it is cloud-related, or things like audio-iMessages (which will probably go pretty well unused by most). Sure being able to opt-out of group messages is great, but that's just addressing something that should have been there in the first place. Quick-reply? We've been asking for that for years.

Really though, if they could fix the animation delays,, provide a dark theme so that my eyes don't singe whenever I use my phone in the dark (come on, the Alarm/Clock app? Of course we use that in the dark! Why make it all eye-bleeding white with thin grey text?).