iPhone 14/Plus apple is making a big mistake by stopping the iPhone PLUS models !

[MrAverigeUser]

Thank you for your thoughtful response! The Apple Store only seems to lower the price of previous year models by $100, but I'm good with that. Had a bad experience with an EB purchase, so prefer to go the safe route.

Thank you for your feedback.

Well - I purchased my 14 PLUS from the biggest electronic market-chaine in germany, they sell resting then outdated NEW iPhones with full guarantee in the first 1-2 months after the new model hits the market for a 10-20% reduction, but in the following months the clear radically their reserves from old models. So - if one dont panic and is patient enough it is possible to buy one without risk for half the price.... nice !

Often also the Mobile-net-providers sell the "outdated" new iPhones with an important reduction - especially if you renew your contract at the same time.

Since I dont care about the colour and always use a cage/cover the colour is not important because not even visible. So one can get a further reduction of 100 EUR/USD for the same iPhone if you accept a colour that is less demanded by the customers....

did the same with my 3 rd gen. iPad Pro M1 11" 2 TB - and got ist for 45% less - very nice because its official price before it became "outdated" has been horribly high and not acceptable at all...

I am very happy with both, the ip14 Plus and the fantastic IPP M1....

in total for both I spent round about 1.400 EUR/USD less by just being patient - but buy instantly if the price goes rapidly down at the (final) end of the sales-action... That is a lot of money spared....

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I did a short research of the price/timeline for the still newest iPhone 16 PLUS 512 (!) GB :

During the last 12 months a new one did already fall from about 1.480 EUR to now between 1.000-1.100 EUR in the market today...... although the iPhone 16 PLUS is not even "outdated" and the iPhone 17 models will perhaps not hit the market before september...

So there is a realistic hope that a patient buyer can purchase an absolutely new one incl. guarantee for about half the price or even less in Nov/Dec 2025 or Jan/Febr 2026....
If so I will sell perhaps my own 14 PLUS just to get the very last 16 Plus -line model that will have been produced by apple - then I dont need a new Iphone for at least 5 years and can be sure that there are even new IOS Versions for at least another 6-7 years...

 

[luvmymbp]

Thank you for your feedback.

Well - I purchased my 14 PLUS from the biggest electronic market-chaine in germany, they sell resting then outdated NEW iPhones with full guarantee in the first 1-2 months after the new model hits the market for a 10-20% reduction, but in the following months the clear radically their reserves from old models. So - if one dont panic and is patient enough it is possible to buy one without risk for half the price.... nice !

Often also the Mobile-net-providers sell the "outdated" new iPhones with an important reduction - especially if you renew your contract at the same time.

Since I dont care about the colour and always use a cage/cover the colour is not important because not even visible. So one can get a further reduction of 100 EUR/USD for the same iPhone if you accept a colour that is less demanded by the customers....

did the same with my 3 rd gen. iPad Pro M1 11" 2 TB - and got ist for 45% less - very nice because its official price before it became "outdated" has been horribly high and not acceptable at all...

I am very happy with both, the ip14 Plus and the fantastic IPP M1....

in total for both I spent round about 1.400 EUR/USD less by just being patient - but buy instantly if the price goes rapidly down at the (final) end of the sales-action... That is a lot of money spared....

.
edit:

I did a short research of the price/timeline for the still newest iPhone 16 PLUS 512 (!) GB :

During the last 12 months a new one did already fall from about 1.480 EUR to now between 1.000-1.100 EUR in the market today...... although the iPhone 16 PLUS is not even "outdated" and the iPhone 17 models will perhaps not hit the market before september...

So there is a realistic hope that a patient buyer can purchase an absolutely new one incl. guarantee for about half the price or even less in Nov/Dec 2025 or Jan/Febr 2026....
If so I will sell perhaps my own 14 PLUS just to get the very last 16 Plus -line model that will have been produced by apple - then I dont need a new Iphone for at least 5 years and can be sure that there are even new IOS Versions for at least another 6-7 years...

Thank you for your response! You are definitely a smart shopper! I am in the US where bargains are rare for Apple products.

 

[GioGiusi]

Not for everyone. Everyone do not have an issue with fitting a Pro Max in their pocket nor is it awkward to hold in their hand. Apple makes iPhones to suit different folks. The same way some folks like the mini, some folks like the Pro Max.

Yes, everyone. It is the same size for everyone. These aren't subjective questions. Whether or not you are willing to tolerate these aspects of the device is your own preference. What size the actual device is, and what size pockets are, and what size human hands are, is not up for your interpretation.

 

[redcarian]

Yes, everyone. It is the same size for everyone. These aren't subjective questions. Whether or not you are willing to tolerate these aspects of the device is your own preference. What size the actual device is, and what size pockets are, and what size human hands are, is not up for your interpretation.

And it is portable for me, and handholdable for me, and pocketable for me, and would be if it were quite considerably larger.

I tolerate the iPhone 16 Pro Max’s frankly inadequately small size, because it’s the biggest iPhone I can get.

 

[cuzo]

I think Apple will do something without looking at people who are against. They have abandoned my tastes years ago when they have stopped making small iPhones like 5, 5s, SE, mini. Can only dream of one with modern specs.

I mean phones are not the best way to consume content and create. It should be purely a communication tool for calls, quick chats and photos/videos. I noticed phone OLED displays are very hard on eyes, whenever I switch to my TV, iMac or Macbook, or even more than a decade old iPad Air I feel good and no pain in the eyes like with iPhones.

In fact, why do we need bigger phones? We need smaller phones! But that’s my opinion for sure

Agree 100% I have a s24 ultra and it's nice for looking at stuff and browsing the internet but as a phone it's quite rough, it's big and wide and android os isn't ios.

 

[cuzo]

I. Think the air will be a hit at 6.6 under 160 grams I think it will fly off the shelves.

 

[heretiq]

The Plus model is transient and temporary, just as the mini was. If either of them sold impressively, Apple would cement them into the lineup.

iPhone Air will be the next product to take the "special" spot and we'll see how well it does. Incidentally, it will be a remarkably thin and light iPhone with a 6.6" display. Does anyone really need anything bigger than that?

My preference is a phone the size of the iPhone X (5.8” screen); but I’m happy to see Apple experimenting with different form factors based on their design inspirations, judgment and research. If the Air is indeed launched it will be an interesting experiment as I don’t believe anyone was expecting the rumored design.

 

[GioGiusi]

My preference is a phone the size of the iPhone X (5.8” screen); but I’m happy to see Apple experimenting with different form factors based on their design inspirations, judgment and research. If the Air is indeed launched it will be an interesting experiment as I don’t believe anyone was expecting the rumored design.

I think the Air is not so much an experiment as it is an early edition of a new design principle that will make its way through the lineup. At the moment, doing something so thin and light requires compromises on battery life and camera suite, but eventually that will not be the case. They certainly don't want a handheld device to be thick and heavy, that's just an unfortunate reality of prioritizing other things. This is the first time they are able to make a significant change to the physical size without totally compromising the device and it won't be the last move in this direction for iPhone.

 

[mwhite]

Considering Tim Cook has presided over a period of financial growth to place Apple at no 1 and a trillion dollar valued company, I would suggest that he has a full grasp on the economic impacts of this.

Of course he does. He knows it will drive his profit higher. Greed.

 

[TgeekB]

I think the Air is not so much an experiment as it is an early edition of a new design principle that will make its way through the lineup. At the moment, doing something so thin and light requires compromises on battery life and camera suite, but eventually that will not be the case. They certainly don't want a handheld device to be thick and heavy, that's just an unfortunate reality of prioritizing other things. This is the first time they are able to make a significant change to the physical size without totally compromising the device and it won't be the last move in this direction for iPhone.

I think those will be the big questions: how will battery life, camera quality, etc. be? We won’t know until it’s released.

 

[TgeekB]

Of course he does. He knows it will drive his profit higher. Greed.

Do you attempt to make as much money as possible or do you turn down raises and offers for advancement? Remember, if you accept a raise it can’t go to someone else. Greed.

 

[GioGiusi]

Do you attempt to make as much money as possible or do you turn down raises and offers for advancement? Remember, if you accept a raise it can’t go to someone else. Greed.

Eh. That isn't the same thing at all. When Apple's greed results in making worse products than they otherwise could, they are failing in their mission. Making money is not their only purpose, or reason for existing. It is necessary, but it is not the mission.

They have 2 choices in their approach:

- Make the best possible products and experience, and if people like them, we'll make money.

Or

- Maximize profit wherever possible regardless of what needs to changed or stripped from planned products.

I could also rename those 2 options Steve Jobs and Tim Cook.

Apple needs a return to form.

 

[GioGiusi]

I think those will be the big questions: how will battery life, camera quality, etc. be? We won’t know until it’s released.

We pretty much know right now. The camera is expected to be the same wide camera that is on iPhone 16 with whatever modest but unremarkable improvements there are for 2025. The battery is expected to be a 2800mAh high density battery, governed by the A18 chip. High density is expected to increase efficiency by 15%. The A18 can be counted on to also increase efficiency by 10-15%. Resulting in a battery roughly equivalent in hours to the current iPhone 16 base model.

If any of that turns out to be dramatically untrue, it would be very unusual given the timing, sources and veracity of these rumors.

 

[TgeekB]

Eh. That isn't the same thing at all. When Apple's greed results in making worse products than they otherwise could, they are failing in their mission. Making money is not their only purpose, or reason for existing. It is necessary, but it is not the mission.

They have 2 choices in their approach:

- Make the best possible products and experience, and if people like them, we'll make money.

Or

- Maximize profit wherever possible regardless of what needs to changed or stripped from planned products.

I could also rename those 2 options Steve Jobs and Tim Cook.

Apple needs a return to form.

It’s exactly the same thing. Businesses are in business to make a profit, not lose money.
Smartphones are at a point where innovation is limited. They all do the same thing. Apple obviously makes an excellent product or people wouldn’t buy it. As far as the fantasy that Jobs was totally different than Cook you are making things up. Jobs just was at the beginning of the smartphone lifecycle. Otherwise they were both leaders who wanted to sell the most product. It’s a really simple philosophy.

 

[splifingate]

Of course he does. He knows it will drive his profit higher. Greed.

AAPL is not a 501(c)(3)