You'd think there would be some code that checks to see if a new user is posting the same thing 30+ times .... it would ban them.
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You'd think there would be some code that checks to see if a new user is posting the same thing 30+ times .... it would ban them.
Edit: thanks for the hard work mods!
Yeah, but I bet hundreds of members reported them asap.
Years ago I looked at Apple and considered that they go their own way and never apologize for anything. I realized that one day they'd get backed into a corner and suspected that they'd only apologize as a guilt party. It just so happens that it's on an issue where I perceived them as guilty prior to the apology.
My cynical mind now wonders if there are going to be more unexpected shutdowns when throttling is not enabled.
My cynical mind now wonders if there are going to be more unexpected shutdowns when throttling is not enabled.
I can confirm the 7 Plus was being throttled on iOS 11 prior to 11.3. My Geekbench is now consistently scoring 6000+ on 7 Plus. Classic attempt of planned obsolescence gone wrong. Good for the customer.
Mine has been just a hair under 6000 (5996) since October, and it’s not slowing down with a battery at 97% since October.
What happened to all the people constantly complaining about their phones dying at 20-30%? Years upon years of seeing those threads and now its never been an issue? mmhmm
I just wanted to say, I installed 11.3 beta 2 and my "unthrottled" iPhone has finally returned to normal speeds. Good battery, now running full speed for the first time since 11 was released.
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My dreadful battery life seemed to rapidly improve after the last update. It took 3 months but Apple finally did it.
I can’t believe iPhone 7 was being throttled already. Was your battery worn out this quick or all the iPhones were being throttled regardless??
The nature of human beings. People complained that its planned obsolescence when iPhone died at 30%. Saying apple is forcing them to buy a new phone or buy a $80 battery and so they sue Apple. So apple fixed it and extends the life of the device by allowing the OS to adjust power requirements and speed so that it won't die at 30% and extend the life of the device. So that you don't have to spend $80 on a device or buy a new one. People then complained about that and sues Apple. It's the worse of human nature. Pathetic self entitled and I deserve something because I'm special or something or the press says so. Crazy world.
The good news?
No one cares about this issue anymore. And, as usual, it's another "gate" that is nothing more than overreaction from people looking for a free ride with the flames stoked by the media. This is the first post on the topic in a month. LOL.
It was a faux controversy in December and it's proven now.
Good grief really? Both of you didn't take the time to seriously look at this thread. The issue was that the 6, 6+, 6s, and 6s+ phones came with a batch of bad batteries that caused some of the phones to restart under heavy CPU usage - to "fix" this issue, Apple released an update to reduce the CPU frequency to prevent the phone from restarting.
If this was just "human" beings wanting new phones then this would be a non-issue. Apple only guarantees these batteries for 500 cycles above 80% design capacity and unless you get AppleCare+, only for 1 year (2 years if AppleCare+).
Let me explain since you both didn't do your homework on this.
My wife and I both bought 6s+ phones with AppleCare+. Within 5 months of ownership. Here, lemme bold it... within 5 months of ownership my wife's 6s+ would restart and would last easily 1/2 as long as my 6s+. We could both be doing ingress in the park and her phone would drop to 30% in the same time it took my phone to drop to 80% (from 100%). Then within a year of ownership. Let me bold it for you... within a year of ownership my wife's iPhone was restarting so bad that we could take a walk in the park and in less than a 2 mile walk, her phone could restart 3 times. Say her phone was at 70% - when the phone restarted, it would show 10% battery left. If we plugged it into the wall, it would take 3 minutes to go from 10% to 60%. CoconutBattery showed the phone's design capacity fluctuating from 60% to 40% to 90%.
So, we decided to take the phone to Apple because my wife's phone was not operating like mine was. Apple's own "Genius" could not complete the test (he tried 3 times) because the test failed saying something was wrong with the phone - however, he verbally told us there was nothing wrong with the phone. So we showed him how the phone rebooted. He just shrugged his shoulders and said the battery was fine. This infuriated me because up until now Apple was very good at replacing defective devices
So I paid out of pocket $80 to have her battery replaced. Sadly, in so doing this, the Apple Store destroyed her phone and we got it replaced (Apple Care+) with a new 6s+ for free because they destroyed my wife's old 6s+ by attempting to put a new battery in it. This new 6s+ had no battery problems and lasted as long as my 6s+. They did not refund me my $80.
My 6s+ had no problems. My wife's 6s+ had a bad battery and Apple refused to deal with it even though we were AppleCare+ members. Hardly an "overreaction" by people looking for a free ride. I lost $80 because of this.
My wife and I upgraded to an 8+ after I had owned my 6s+ for 1.8 years (less than 2 YEARS) and less than 240 battery charge cycles. My 6s+ was a great phone. My wife's first 6s+ was horrible. Her second 6s+ was great and just like mine.
Apple had a batch of bad batteries and instead of fix the issue like they are now they tried to cover it by slowing down CPUs. Do I hate Apple? No. I bought the 8+ for my wife and I. Do I expect to get $ back because of this? Nope. Life goes on.
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You are confused. Apple had a batch of bad batteries, did a recall, and replaced them free of charge in 2016.
About a year later, they pushed out a version of iOS 11 that made some people think they were being throttled when they really weren’t. After a lot of hysteria and phony media controversy, Apple reduced the price of batteries and relaxed their standards on replacement. After the 15 people who actually needed a battery replaced got them replaced, we never heard about the issue again.
Apple power manages the iPhone and does a phenomenal job compared to other products in the space. They’ve been doing this for years. What’s changed is that people are holding onto their iPhones too long because they are expensive now that the carriers have stopped the subsidies and people can’t get phones for $99 on a two year contract anymore. The phone is only warranteed to for two years, the battery is not warranteed at all.
Once you enter Year 3 you have a tired battery and are on your own, Apple owes you nothing.
How am I confused? Apple only replaced the batteries of the 6s, not the 6s+ or the 7. My wife clearly had a defective battery in her 6s+ and Apple refused to do anything about it - and even later produced software to reduce the CPU of the 6s+ and even the 7, 7+ because of these bad batteries.
I agree that the issue was minor (my 6s+ was perfect) but my wife's 6s+ had the issue and Apple refused to do anything about it - I lost $80 because of it. But 15? It was a bit more than that - the initial Reddit thread that started it all had 500+ people with the issue alone if I remember right.
And of course, after a year, without AppleCare+ you're out of luck, with AppleCare+ 2 years. No one is arguing that. That's why I called your initial post uninformed because you assumed this just people trying to get free battery replacements. That may be the case for some, but not all.
And yes, I'd agree with you saying that more and more people hold onto their phones longer because of cost. So a lot more people felt the 50% CPU reduction and why there was a loud outcry. This is why Apple quickly apologized and offered super cheap battery replacements as well as iOS 11.3 which allows people to turn off that CPU reduction.
Agreed, after year 2 (entering year 3) with AppleCare+ - Apple owes you nothing. (This is why I upgrade before 2 years or right at 2 years). So we agree on some things. I'm not saying there aren't people trying to take advantage of this and yes, the press blew this up big time. So I hear you on that and agree with you on that.
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I really like this part. Apple phones have GREAT batteries with GREAT wear rates (I do a lot of hobbyist battery analysis). Their quality is what keeps me coming back to them and will for a long time.
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Apologies. Your post made it sound like Apple never did a battery recall for the significant amount of defective batteries found in the iPhone 6. What your wife went through is unfortunate but in the consumer electronics industry products run at a 5% defective rate.
Apple should have replaced your wife’s battery as defective but it was not indicative of a rampant problem or a cover up. Hers was an isolated incident consistent with industry defective rates.
From what we went through in this thread and others, the people complaining the most seemed to be teenage owners of very old iPhones running on original batteries purchased used off of Craigslist, many of them jailbroken and abused by all-day streaming.
I'm a happy Apple owner and I apologize for being harsh in my posts. The media blew this up and a lot of people I know went out of their way to bash Apple for this without really knowing what was going on. Like you said, the percentage of occurrences of this are very low. Apple's products have treated me well since my 4s so I'll continue to buy Apple. Our 8+ phones are great and we're looking forward to owning them for 2 years and upgrading to the latest that Apple has to offer.
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Actually the battery in my iPhone 7 lasted the best out of my iPhone 6 and X yet it was slightly throttled. Battery is 97% after more than 1 year and yet there was some slight throttling. I am not impressed with the battery of my X as it’s already at 99% health after just 3 months.
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But my iPhone battery health was perfectly fine and yet it was being throttled. Now my 7 Plus consistently scores above 6000 in multi core
Thank you so much for confirming that! That’s exactly what I was concerned about. Some people make it sound like the throttling by iOS only affects the devices with worn out batteries, you proved that wrong. It affects all the devices regardless of battery level. Now that is major. I want full performance on my iPhone as I paid $$$$ for, then a pop up to notify me when to switch out battery, unless iPhone batteries can’t last more than a year without causing problems....cause I thought that’s the kind of electronic I thought I bought.
The feature is there in the public beta. My Geekbench score stabilised after upgrading.
Hmmm. Assuming it will be linear, you do realize that your X will be 96% after 12 months? That's no different to your 7
It seems you are confused. Apple did not replace all the bad batteries in their recall. My sons 6s wasn't on the recall list however his phone reboots at 40% charge pretty much every day. Apple said the phone was fine. The real kicker is this so called throttling fix doesn't even work like they claim it does. Not to mention how slow his phone is now. His phone is about 18 months old. His company purchased it brand new for him. There is nothing phenomenal about what Apple did here. Please try to be fair in your assessments, not everything is as black and white as you portray things to be.
It should take a long time to drop 1% because after it drops to 99% the health declines at a faster rate although it's not as bad as how my iPhone 6 battery performed.