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TrueBlou

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I totally agree with you, but there will be so many people telling you that you’re wrong.

I can even hear the difference between Spotify and Qobuz in my car.

Jason

I’m the same, I’ve done so many blind tests online and with my own music, on varying degrees of hardware. When listening on pretty basic, standard equipment (read AirPods and the like) my results are hit and miss, which I’ll put down to pure luck.

Change that to my Hi-Fi, or a decent DAC-Headphone Amp-Headphones setup, and I always manage to pick out the better quality tracks. Something I’m still surprised at considering how long I spent on the road with bands, having my eardrums pummled.

People have been telling me for years that I’m wrong, yet, those are my results. I also still like to listen to my vinyl, but that’s another argument, or maybe I’m just that old ;D

At the end of the day, music is meant to be enjoyed. So, whether you can, or cannot hear a difference, just use the equipment you like and just enjoy the music you like. Why care about whether someone else thinks you’re ‘listening to it properly’ or not.
 
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hippyeverafter

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Aug 13, 2017
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What a waste of time & energy. So much anger and bitterness, very few really genuine to help navigate in this world full of snake oils. (A term I learned on Roon forum).
I myself about three years ago started purchasing Hi-Res audio from the likes of Qobuz, HDtracks and Highresaudio thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread but reality has kicked in. To tell you the truth it only sounds better because some expert somewhere told you so, also the worst thing you can do is search Youtube for the thousands of people willing to give you their opinion. The trouble with sound is it will be so subjective and it's not like TV where the difference between an SD picture and HD is plainly obvious. The bottom line, I now find myself listening to vinyl and CD's 95% of the time instead of so called remastered Hi-Res albums. It certainly is a rabbit hole.
 
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TrueBlou

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Sep 16, 2014
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The trouble with sound is it will be so subjective and it's not like TV where the difference between an SD picture and HD is plainly obvious. The bottom line, I now find myself listening to vinyl and CD's 95% of the time instead of so called remastered Hi-Res albums. It certainly is a rabbit hole.

Nail on the head.

No two ears are the same, never mind 4 or more ;) Two people, sitting next to each other, listening to the same music on the same equipment, won’t hear the same thing.

Even forgetting the whole debate on lossless music, it’s why there’s so much variety in Hi-Fi equipment, speakers, interconnects, speaker wire and so on.

We just don’t all necessarily like the same sound.

I love a combination of Arcam amps, Rega turntables, Pioneer CD player, Philips tape deck (nothing wrong with good quality vinyl, or cassettes in my book) and Monitor Audio speakers. Some of my friends think it’s too ‘warm’ a sound.

Does that make me wrong, them wrong? No, it’s just personal preference. Vive la difference.
 

gigatoaster

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Jul 22, 2018
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I myself about three years ago started purchasing Hi-Res audio from the likes of Qobuz, HDtracks and Highresaudio thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread but reality has kicked in. To tell you the truth it only sounds better because some expert somewhere told you so, also the worst thing you can do is search Youtube for the thousands of people willing to give you their opinion. The trouble with sound is it will be so subjective and it's not like TV where the difference between an SD picture and HD is plainly obvious. The bottom line, I now find myself listening to vinyl and CD's 95% of the time instead of so called remastered Hi-Res albums. It certainly is a rabbit hole.

I totally agree. I feel I can make a difference but sometimes I don’t. I really need to focus to feel the difference. I don’t buy my music, though. I found a Russian website with a lot of choice.
 

Vushka

macrumors newbie
Jul 2, 2021
10
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Well, I finally took the time to set up Apple Music for lossless using my Asgard 3 amplifier with built in TrueMulitbit DAC card. I will say I am enjoying it. If there is a way to filter for only lossless music I would love to learn how to do that.

I've pretty much ignored Apple Music unless in my car, or using mobile devices. At home, at the desk I've spent a lot of time with Tidal. Actually I do regret not keeping my Apple Music play lists up-to-date.

Is anyone out there thinking about switching to Apple Lossless and killing Tidal? I'm thinking it might be a little to soon to do that.
I’m considering it but have an issue. If I’m sending the tracks to my Blusound streamer via Airplay, surely it’s always going to be limited to Bluetooth quality. Ie. AAC at best?
 

JasonHB

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Jul 20, 2010
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I’m considering it but have an issue. If I’m sending the tracks to my Blusound streamer via Airplay, surely it’s always going to be limited to Bluetooth quality. Ie. AAC at best?
Yes it will be limited. You can’t get lossless Apple Music wirelessly in any way. You need a DAC and a cable from your phone or iPad into the DAC

I’ve now ditched my Bluesound, iPad cabled into my DAC sounds miles better than the Bluesound so I’ve no longer any need to use it.

Jason
 
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JasonHB

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Jul 20, 2010
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Warwickshire, UK
Well, I finally took the time to set up Apple Music for lossless using my Asgard 3 amplifier with built in TrueMulitbit DAC card. I will say I am enjoying it. If there is a way to filter for only lossless music I would love to learn how to do that.

I've pretty much ignored Apple Music unless in my car, or using mobile devices. At home, at the desk I've spent a lot of time with Tidal. Actually I do regret not keeping my Apple Music play lists up-to-date.

Is anyone out there thinking about switching to Apple Lossless and killing Tidal? I'm thinking it might be a little to soon to do that.
I’ve made the leap. I switched from Tidal last year to Qobuz as I thought it sounded better and don’t have to contribute to the scam merchants MQA.

I’ve now ditched Qobuz for Apple Music Lossless. It sounds fantastic, using my iPad into an stand alone DAC and then into my amp.

My system is now sounding better than ever before and I love it.

Jason
 
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ATL Golfer

macrumors newbie
May 16, 2011
9
1
So, I have a windows machine connected via USB - A to B to a desktop amp (Sprout) that has a decent DAC.

To make this work I need to remove the windows machine from amp, get a USB - C to B adapter and plug the iPad Air 4 in? (don't want to use my phone)

Playing from the web version of Apple Music does not get you lossless it appears?
 
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