Razer's very overpriced. Right now there's crazy gaming laptop deals. Just ordered this to go along with my M1 Max 16 when travelling.
My MBP16 if optioned to this level with M1Max would be around $4000
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Apple M1 Pro Review - Is It Really Faster than Intel/AMD?
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My MBP16 if optioned to this level with M1Max would be around $4000
Good lord - the whole computer is only a bit more than the price of many desktop 3080's
(obviously not at MSRP)
Of course Mac destroys Windows cause Windows in that workflow is terrible.
Or does this guy want to hint ALL windows computers are garbage and Mac is the best for EVERY workflow now?
But I thought Intel/AMD are still superior based on this thread!
The Maxtech video was very good! I have been saying this to people. 32GB Ram on MBP 14" or 16" is probably the most anyone would use. Seems if you don't want as much swap being used 32gb is the sweet spot but it illustrates why Apple's approach to the GPU and Unified memory is going to really change things.
I loved seeing the Surface struggle and use fans. Lol. This is the difference between architecture, process node, unified everything including the storage makes to the Intel/AMD approach to socketed memory and storage as well as x86 vs ARM.
It is a lost cause for Intel and AMD on x86. I don't see how they can compete unless you are just looking at single core cpu scores and nothing else. There are so many advantages to the way Apple is operating.
I bet Windows on ARM is going to be the big thing. It will be interesting to see how Intel and AMD react to Apple and ARM competition. They are going to have to try something different in a very fundamental way or the inefficiency and heat will be a constant problem.
I loved seeing the Surface struggle and use fans. Lol. This is the difference between architecture, process node, unified everything including the storage makes to the Intel/AMD approach to socketed memory and storage as well as x86 vs ARM.
It is a lost cause for Intel and AMD on x86. I don't see how they can compete unless you are just looking at single core cpu scores and nothing else. There are so many advantages to the way Apple is operating.
I bet Windows on ARM is going to be the big thing. It will be interesting to see how Intel and AMD react to Apple and ARM competition. They are going to have to try something different in a very fundamental way or the inefficiency and heat will be a constant problem.
I am not overly concerned with swap usage. By the time I want a replacement Macbook Pro, the SSD even with HEAVY swap will still have a lot of life left in it. But my specific config I went M1 Max, 32GB of RAM and 2 TB SSD.
I agree it is not a problem and seems to work just fine swapping as much as needed. I just feel people considering these machines want to get as much performance as possible even down to milliseconds so in that case using as much physical ram as possible will always be better. That was the point I was trying to make not that it will wear out the drive.
If that video gives you this impression then I am very sad.
NOTHING is perfect. Denying otherwise is just wrong.
To be clear, your only point is that the new MacBook pro's aren't perfect? I guess we should start threads proclaiming that X isn't perfect where X is everything. Get typing!
This should be the case, but as you see... people LOVE to drama out these kind of vs just because. Also revenue, clicks, likes etc etc etc...
My point is nothing is perfect, to say it otherwise is just wrong. If you like to start that sort of thread feel free.
This goes both ways. I am not the original poster. I am not claiming the M1 still sucks compared to Alder Lake. I posted a video where Macs ARE better than an equivalent Windows system.
I am not claiming Intel and AMD still blow away Apple Silicon, others are.
And the MBP 16" would perform way better! The Ryzen processor is better than Intel in terms of heat and efficiency but it still isn't close to the M1 Max. The MBP also has a 1600 nit peak brightness glass screen at 120hz. The Pro Motion also conserves battery life unlike Windows that just runs the screen at 165hz all the time. Also the difference between 120hz and 165hz is barely noticeable unless you are gaming and you have enough power to run the 3080 at peak speeds in a game that might run over 120fps and again if the game is hitting 150fps vs 120fps I think it would be really hard to notice. Screen is a huge difference specially the brightness and resolution.
So if you are gaming the Lenovo would be an excellent choice but for anything else the MacBook is going to be much better-speakers, battery life, screen and processor and build quality. So I think the MBP is worth the extra cost. The Razer looks a lot better than this Legion 7 Gen 6 and if you were to buy the Lenovo NOT on sale it would be much more expensive and the value proposition get's even worse.
I am just going to say it..... Apple has clearly come up with a Laptop that NO other manufacturer can beat or even get close to. There are some use case where a Windows gaming rig or workstation will beat these MBP but overall with all the features, performance, price, build quality, screen on these new MBP there is NOTHING that comes close.
Again in specific cases a Windows laptop might be more powerful and might cost less but it will not excel in thermal performance, battery life, and M1 Pro and Max are simply the best processors you can get in a mobile device right now and the new MBP 14" and 16" are simply the BEST laptops for power users/creative users that you can get period and any arguments to the contrary are just not true at least right now......
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You're actually right and a... hit the nail on the head.
It's as if when we crushed Windows with macOS, and we had to keep bashing the NVIDIA (crack) heads, no we have DESTROYED them with the M1P and M1X. So they wanna go back and compare Chip to Chip!! Nah nah, macOS crushes Windows. F-the chip!
It's like we are getting side tracked with the chip instead of "the real", like Windows even comes close to macOS!
It's x86_64+Winblows 10/11 versus M1P/M1X+macOS 12!
It's over ENOUGH, although it has been kinda "crickets" on most Mac forums lately, LOL!
Have a great weekend!
You had to pick a channel that specifically puts the M1 Pro/Max in unfavorable circumstances in order for it to actually lose out in some benchmarks, though, so what does that actually mean?
Normal users do NOT try to put Parallels on M1 to run Windows.
I think I'll stop right there and let you think on what all of that actually means.
I'll stop too because the argument is dead already.
Have a nice day.
Anyone wanting to run Windows apps should probably not be using an M1 Mac to do so. Either use a Windows PC or use an Intel Mac with Bootcamp or a VM manager like Parallels. If Microsoft ever becomes serious about Windows on Arm then maybe an Apple Silicon Mac would be appropriate.
So true! I use mac because of macOS. So as long as it doesn't run macOS it is not an option. None, zero, nada.
Intel/AMD vs Apple discussion is dead!
No one said it's perfect. Can't you communicate without relying on straw men?
The way comments are written and how those videos demonstrate gives me the impression that MacBook is perfect.
Anyway, have a nice day.
Your reading comprehension needs work then.