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My Gmail works with every other mail client except Apple Mail without issues. I also have frequent iCloud problems. Apple has issues.
 
None of that has anything to do with the issues I'm having. Seems like you just did a quick search and copy pasted the first thing you found without reading the article.
 
None of that has anything to do with the issues I'm having. Seems like you just did a quick search and copy pasted the first thing you found without reading the article.

Excuse me for trying to help and not being clairvoyant enough to know what you've already tried. Guess you're on your own.
 
I didn't ask for your help. I brought up an issue which is the very topic of this thread. Just seems like you're not willing to admit that Apple Mail ... or Apple ... may in fact have problems. Judging by the shared issues among members in this thread, I must say it's not an isolate incident.
 
I didn't ask for your help. I brought up an issue which is the very topic of this thread. Just seems like you're not willing to admit that Apple Mail ... or Apple ... may in fact have problems. Judging by the shared issues among members in this thread, I must say it's not an isolate incident.

You're equally unwilling to admit that it could just as likely be an issue with Gmail or more likely how you've set your accounts up. But continue blaming Apple for your problems. I'm sure that'll solve them.
 
After nearly 18 months of declining productivity and growing Frustration with Apple Mail, I finally took the plunge and installed Postbox. And have happily not looked back.

With the value of email, I cannot fathom why Apple has so terribly neglected Mail. Does anyone really use the templates and pretty "paper"?

I've got 6 email addresses, only 1 is an Apple .me address... The rest, including 2 from work are gmail... And as has been discussed here ad nasueum, Apple Mail doesn't play nice...

Oh well, give Postbox a shot... The $15 was worth it to have a program that (like Apple used to) "just works".

Coachingguy
 
You're equally unwilling to admit that it could just as likely be an issue with Gmail or more likely how you've set your accounts up. But continue blaming Apple for your problems. I'm sure that'll solve them.
I'm open to all the possibilities, except Apple Mail still continues to be the only mail app that has problems with Gmail. You'd think if it was on Google's end, they'd prioritize having Gmail work with Apple Mail. But the fact that it's working on every third-party app I'm using, both big and small, it's not unsafe to assume there's issues with Apple Mail.

I mean ... how many ways are there of messing up how I set up my accounts? Pick Gmail ... sign in with username and password. Ta da! Doesn't work with my Gmail accounts that have two-step verification or the ones without it, so it's not a two-step verification issue.

I appreciate your complete and utter lack of willingness to see outside your Apple love bubble, but we in the real world do have issues with Apple, which isn't a company that is as perfect as you're seemingly making them out to be. I am not blaming Apple for the sake of blaming Apple. I'm blaming Apple because after trying many avenues for solutions, it's the safest bet that it's an issue with the piece of software that this very thread is about.

In case you still haven't noticed ... I'm not the only one complaining about issues with Apple Mail. You've just chosen to laser in on my comments as if they're the only ones in the thread.


After nearly 18 months of declining productivity and growing Frustration with Apple Mail, I finally took the plunge and installed Postbox. And have happily not looked back.

With the value of email, I cannot fathom why Apple has so terribly neglected Mail. Does anyone really use the templates and pretty "paper"?

I've got 6 email addresses, only 1 is an Apple .me address... The rest, including 2 from work are gmail... And as has been discussed here ad nasueum, Apple Mail doesn't play nice...

Oh well, give Postbox a shot... The $15 was worth it to have a program that (like Apple used to) "just works".

Coachingguy
I'll give it a go, thanks. I tried liking Airmail ... and it works as far as mail clients go ... but it just doesn't have everything I need. I'm willing to throw down some dough for a good mail client.
 
BTW- For fun I set up a Gmail account and added it to my Apple Mail. Works fine. Sent myself emails using my GMAIL address from within Apple Mail and with my normal email address from Bluehost and got the three starter emails from Google. No problem. Also used Gmail online to send myself an email to my regular email address. Worked.

BTW- I did what the article I posted said to do and change Gmail to use IMAP.
 
BTW- For fun I set up a Gmail account and added it to my Apple Mail. Works fine. Sent myself emails using my GMAIL address from within Apple Mail and with my normal email address from Bluehost and got the three starter emails from Google. No problem. Also used Gmail online to send myself an email to my regular email address. Worked.

BTW- I did what the article I posted said to do and change Gmail to use IMAP.
You're really irritating. I don't have a problem using Gmail. Or sending or receiving messages ... or sending myself messages ... or any of the functionality of using Gmail. My problem is it requests that I sign in again to my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail whenever the computer is restarted. The credentials don't stick and it asks me to update via iCloud/system preferences (Internet Accounts section) again. I've already done the things your stupid article states to do, which are still irrelevant to my problem, which is iCloud's inability to stick credentials to my Gmail accounts. I don't have this issue with third-party apps (Airmail, Sparrow, Mailbox, and now the trial of Postbox seems to be working great as well). This is an isolated Apple Mail/iCloud issue.

You have poor reading comprehension on top of selective reading. You're not being helpful, you're just trying to annoy. I'm glad you're having "fun" though with Apple Mail.
 
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LOL this guy.

That "fix" has nothing to do with Gmail. It's for iCloud only. Yet again you didn't read the article you posted.
 
If I setup one gmail account, Mail works fine (after 10.10.4 upgrade). By the time I setup the second gmail account (exactly the same settings as the first, only username is different obviously) problems arise. Looks like it is an authentication issue. I don't know why this specific client has so many issues for so long time, while other clients do not (even the Mail app from iPhone works flawlessly). I really want to like Mail.app but...
 
i use unibox ,it's simple and very easy to use. i love it because i'm a casual mail user if you want to try it they offer a trial version and if you want to buy it's 5$ for limited time.
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After years of having to work under the hood to use a PC, we all moved to Macs because they were simple. As can be seen from this thread, this is no longer the case. Time to dump apple mail in favor of something that just plain works.
 
Mail sux.. it pops open at random times... then I come here to complain and its not even obvious how to complain with a new post... only replying to others! I hate mail.
 
I have 6 mail accounts, Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, Apple and 2 macOS server accounts, about 17,000 mails in total going back to 2005, using Mail since then, with nearly no problems.

I actually prefer Mail over Outlook or Thunderbird. I use Outlook only in Windows.
 
I use Outlook and Mail. I don't dislike Mail. It works best for searching compared to Outlook. Looked at a few others too.
I still feel there could be a lot of innovation that could be made to the email client for managing email. For example, I would like to see reports like a pie chart showing me mail in categories (spam, personal, work) that I can drill down to the email level. A easy way to do a text search but exclude groups of email easier so I don't get false hits. A really good archiving system that is portable but still has the tools to find email.

I don't think a good email app exists on earth.
 
The mail app worked for a long time for me on both iOS and macOS, but about 4 months ago it started constantly signing me out of all my accounts (2 Gmail, 2 yahoo) and I would constantly have to re-enter my passwords. Another thing that it did that drove me insane was I would open my app, read my mail and then delete it, but as soon as I would close the app it would say I had notifications for the same mail I just opened and deleted so I would have to go through and delete them again sometimes 3 or 4 times! Mail was a major pain in my ***. I finally got fed up one day and found Spark mail client that works very well on both iOS and macOS, no problems after 4 months!
 
Why on earth are you hoarding every email you've ever sent/received?
It doesn't take that much space to begin with (less than 8GB in my case) and proved itself so many times to be extremely helpful for finding old records for tax and warranty purposes, to settle old disputes, and keep a record of business correspondence. Spotlight is great for finding what you are looking for among the seemingly buried information when you need it, which is very hard to do it otherwise. When you filter your search by name and subject, you also get a chronological list of correspondence, which is very useful for building a case file if needed.

I consider it as a searchable time-line of my life and it is easier than keeping a diary or logbook.
 
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After I stopped using Apple Mail I used Opera Mail for a while; I liked it mostly except that it was buggy.
At the start of this school year I got an Office 365 license/subscription from the school and had downloaded Microsoft Office, and decided to use the Microsoft Outlook for my mail. It's pretty good; works well.
 
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