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which increased the cost of producing the iPhones and Apple subtracted new features that was originally planned just to comply with EU.

but that doesn't get talked about. just "bUt MuH CoNsuMeR rIgHtS" bro talk. annoying af.
Oh wow - this is one of the spiciest takes I've ever read. Did you forget the /s?

Glad Apple shared their cost to develop and deploy this with you, random internet MacRumors poster. Apple has a market cap of 3.404 trillion as of this writing. If they got bamboozled by a law limiting waste, then the joke is on them.
 
It’s telling that Apple wouldn’t even do something as ethical and simple as this without being pushed to. Happy, but equally frustrated.
I don't see it as ethical or simple. I see it as weird to be forced to change product design for something that really isn't that useful. The normal life cycle for a new iPhone with a new battery is longer than most people keep their phones, and these phones go into the refurbished market and beyond. Replacing batteries is not a high priority for users, and is already completely feasible for authorized service providers. None of this sounds like anything that needs interference from a government entity. Quite the contrary, it sounds like something where government interference could add unjustified constraints on design and engineering. I don't want Apple restricted in what it can do with design, as long as things are reasonable. They are already reasonable.
 
Luckily you aren't being forced to buy Apple products, so feel free to move on if you don't like how they do business.
But Apple loves to brag about being green and good for the planet. Remember the Mother Nature video from last year's iPhone 15 launch?

And then they make the phone easier to repair and keep longer, but don't talk about it. Any guesses why?
 
sure, see the many pages of complaints from the MR article titled "Apple Intelligence Features Not Coming to European Union at Launch Due to DMA"
See the many hundred of pages of complaints about Apple making batteries hard to service.

See the hundreds of complaints about AI being garbage.

See your point not being as good as you thought it was.
 
which increased the cost of producing the iPhones and Apple subtracted new features that was originally planned just to comply with EU.
If production costs are higher due to this change, production costs will be more than offset by producing iPhone 16's in India



where labor and production costs are much lower than in China


Chinese wages were US $1,197.32 per month in 2019 while India’s were US $115.31 per month as of 2014, according to Take-profit. More specifically, the average cost of manufacturing labor per hour was $0.92 in India and $3.52 in China for 2014



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I would be interested to know if the phone can retain the same level of water resistance capability after going through a non-professional battery replacement. I’m guessing not. I would personally rather have it done by a professional if it ensures that the device stays equally water resistant after as it was before.
 
See the many hundred of pages of complaints about Apple making batteries hard to service.
Did you forget that you just wrote: "I can't imagine being excited to beta test a small fraction"?

Yes. Yes you did.

See the hundreds of complaints about AI being garbage.

Except ChatGPT has hundreds of millions of active monthly users so...

See your point not being as good as you thought it was.

See your point not being as good as you thought it was.
 
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If production costs are higher due to this change, production costs will be more than offset by producing iPhone 16's in India



Pro models.

non-pro models are higher volume. MR article specifically says "Apple's mention of an easier to service battery is only in the iPhone 16 press release, and not in the press release for the iPhone 16 Pro, so it is not clear if all models have the same battery-related changes. Apple did, however, change the thermal design in both models, with the changes described during the keynote event."
 
So, where are all the people complaining that EU regulation will kill innovation?

This isn't innovation.

Innovation requires two things:

1) Take something existing and find new uses or combine existing things into something new
2) (Economic) success from the above changes

Easily replaceable batteries isn't a new use case and it certainly won't bring economic success to Apple.
 
Did you forget that you just wrote: "I can't imagine being excited to beta test a small fraction"?

Yes. Yes you did.
Nope, I didn't forget, but what you said doesn't really address that. People can be upset that Apple is being punitive. EU users are still coming out ahead here.

Except ChatGPT has hundreds of millions of active monthly users so...
Again, not a rebuttal to anything I said. Plenty of things can have a ton of users and still be utter trash. See Facebook.

See your point not being as good as you thought it was.
Nope, still seems pretty good to me.
 
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It is freedom... lazy customers can continue to go to a service center and ask them to replace a battery. Nobody is forcing them... as usual there is this misconception!

Yes, but customers should have this kind of freedom if the manufacture doesn't want it.
 
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sure, see the many pages of complaints from the MR article titled "Apple Intelligence Features Not Coming to European Union at Launch Due to DMA"
Good to see the EU actually doing something good for the consumers. Can't wait to see how apple gets slapped for their "compliance" with DMA on app store/payments, etc. Good to see the DOJ stepping int too, and we'll likely see similar cases in other jurisdictions as well.
 
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