No, for the math impaired (or reading comprehension impaired) what I said was "90% of people 90% of the time". You managed to leap from that statement to the absolute statement that all people will never want to download any file. There's a teensy difference. One more time for the slow ones. The.....iPad.....is.....not.....a.....replacement.....for.....a.....computer. It's.....a.....content.....delivery.....device......for.....those.....frequent.....times.....when.....you.....want.....information.....fast......and.....easily. It's OK to own an iPad and a computer.
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No, for the math impaired (or reading comprehension impaired) what I said was "90% of people 90% of the time". You managed to leap from that statement to the absolute statement that all people will never want to download any file. There's a teensy difference. One more time for the slow ones. The.....iPad.....is.....not.....a.....replacement.....for.....a.....computer. It's.....a.....content.....delivery.....device......for.....those.....frequent.....times.....when.....you.....want.....information.....fast......and.....easily. It's OK to own an iPad and a computer.
I don't know if you can actually do this, but i assumed you can't. I haven't tried it yet. But if someone sends you a link to a picture that you have to download through the email you wouldn't be able to do. Maybe you can save it through the photo app though.
Yeah...that would be one of the things you can do. Doesn't devalue your overall point, however.
So 90% of people 90% time wouldn't want to download a file? Really? That is pretty much saying no one downloads files. If you think that most people don't download anything most of the time, you must not realize the point of computers.
How are u sticking up for apple like it's your job? Your seriously ok with the iPad locked down so much to the point it honestly is a big iPod touch. my phone gets me info fast and easily too. My laptop lets me watch any video on any website I want. That leaves the iPad as a huge iPod touch. Hp is gonna sell a lot more of the slate, lower price with ALOT more cabilities. This gives them the opportunity to define the market, not apple. If you think people aren't getting sick of apple restricting stuff, look at how quickly android is catching the iPhone.
You do realize that Apple designs and sells devices other than the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch, right? I mean, you have heard of the MacBook, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro, and Mac mini, haven't you?
I emphatically agree. Despite all logic to the contrary, there are those who simply can't get their heads around the fact that the iPad is not a computer replacement.
Consider the computer: For a substantial fraction of computer users, content delivery is via paper. The computer is used to create the content and/or to transfer content from its source to paper.
Consider the iPad: The iPad is the content delivery medium. It was not designed nor was it intended to replace the computer; it was designed to replace [the printer and] paper. The iPad's functionality upstream of the display and speakers is intended to deliver content to the display. The iPad also unifies print with video and sound with enough storage to hold libraries of content in each form. No tree has to die to make this happen.
The iPad is the start of a new paradigm. Of course, there will be some overlap between it and traditional computers. But a complete replacement for traditional computers? Are these people serious? Do they really and truly expect the iPad to replace the MacBook? MacBook Pro? Mac mini? iMac? Mac Pro? Xserve? And what of the 24" Apple LED Cinema Display? the 30" Apple Cinema HD Display? Don't these people know that even the smallest MacBook display (1280 x 800) has substantially more pixels than the iPad (1024 x 768)?
Replace the Mac with the iPad? Can't be done!
Great point, and we have to remember the price. I am not one to pull out the theory that it would cannibalize the Macbook's sales, but many may think this.
Anyway, I see the iPad as a larger iPod touch as opposed to a smaller laptop computer. It's very hard to type on iPhone and iPods and the iPad makes typing quite a bit easier. But when you start trying to compare it against a real keyboard, or start comparing the iPad's creative abilities or lack thereof, then that's when people forget that we are talking about a smart PDA that is large, not a Macbook replacement.
Maybe one day iPad will have a full version of OS X and be able to download a lot of stuff from the internet and actually be a decent productive small footprint laptop, but until now that's what we have in the $999 dollar Macbook for the foreseeable future.
If there's any major changes due for iPad, it's the multitasking and a lowered price and iPad 2.0 will likely win over those on the fence.
You completely miss the point. Why would you replace a Mac or MacBook pro you use for heavy programs with an iPad? I think a 30 inch monitor is safe from the evil little 10 inch iPad. Would a 22 inch flatscreen take away sales from a 42 inch flatscreen? Did netbooks cannibalize laptops and computers? Then why would a touchscreen netbook do that? Wont this cannabalize ipod touchand possibly iphone sales then? I don't get this argument, why would apple make the MacBook if it would take sales away from the MacBook pro? Theeres noarket for a large ipod that only plays apple approved content. Mayne for $100, but why would someone pay $500 or more to look at the Internet? Why do you think so many people aree disappointed in the iPad?
If the iPad was meant to replace papaer and printers, its gonna fail. Its not even that good at consuming media. You have to pay for everything through apple. You cant be playing a song on pandora and decide you want to read your new york times subscription at the same time till This FALL. Why isnt that in the OS now? So it doesn't hold up for consumers in that respect. It needs to have more computer capabilities. People will always want a larger computer, this should just another choice in the computer market.
I don't agree with this. The point of PDAs are small devices you can carry in your pocket with you to do simple computer tasks. So a large PDA would be a computer. If you have room to carry an iPad, you have room to carry a computer. Why would you choose to get an iPad over a MacBook, which is more in it's class. Hp seems like it gets this, and is letting people actually be productive with their slate.
Expand your definition of PDA for a second. How many keep their PDAs in purses or backpacks? Many, from what I have seen.
To me, it didn't seem long ago when a small PDA, regardless of maker, was expensive, yet wowed people. Had the iPad come out several years ago, people would be calling this a full on computer (in context to the high tech market).
The great price for the iPad, and for the customer who is happy with what it brings to the table right now, will love the iPad, thus the price. I can carry a $999 dollar Macbook around in my backpack, but I can also carry around a slightly larger Macbook Pro around but they are in different price ranges and the Macbook Pro offers more. The iPad offers less, but it's price justifies it.
What we have with iPad is a great PDA without equal. Have you seen and felt the iPad? It's really not that huge or heavy and it's a smart device of the future. The old PDAs which are pocket sized are those for the absolute need to put it in a pocket. Heck, I see a lot of people keep their PDAs in their purse or backpack and they love their PDAs to death. iPad is just a slightly bigger one, but not too big for purse or backpack.
It's a really cool companion, and not a laptop, not at $499 dollars.
Also remember the small, high powered handheld gaming machines? They were $300 dollars a few years ago and had limited graphics and some internet and email capability. They were kind of cool to show off and just about everybody thought they were cool. iPad is just the next step in smart PDAs for those who want a large format PDA, but at the same time, Apple will have those who live and breath iPod and those who live and breathe iPhone.
Apple makes something for everybody and that's the beauty of what is arguably the best high tech company out there for everyday computers.
I have an iPad, I have been doing this post on it. I love the form factor, it's great. But it's just too limited, and I don't think it has a large market for it. Harcore apple fans and people who like new gadgets will buy it, but not many people outside of that.
This just isn't a pda replacement. It is comparable in size to a MacBook, just a lot thinner. It takes about arou nd the same amount of space a macbook would. This is in the net book department, jobs said it himself. If this is a $500 PDA that is 10 inches, it will fail. At least most pdas have a file system. This is a net book, and people expect to be able to do work on a net book. This fails in that category, and I don't see the sales reaching over 2 million. The only reason i see it over 1 million is because it is a new apple gadget, so that's good for a million sales. But the buzz around it has already dropped hard, people just aren't interested in a big ipod touch. You can take your iood with you everywhere, it fits in your pocket, and does everything the iPad does but pages and smaller scaled apps. There is a use for the bigger scaled iPod, but it's not a large market use. It's a veery small niche.
Yes, ipad price is much lower than laptops. But it is rightfully so, way less memory, no keyboard, and whatever other technical drop offs it has. Netbooks are the same thing, so why can't iPad do computer tasks?
They don't make something for everyone, their prices are too high. Having iPad as their netbook would though. Right now i can go buy a windows computer for $700. If it breaks down in 2 years, no big deal I go buy a new one. That's $1400 in 2 years, much cheaper than a macook pro would cost up front
I dont think they missed an oppurtunity they build a product just to improve on it. Example Adding video camera to the iphone or even mutlitasking just recently. Its the only way for them to continue to make money. They always have to find a way to make there products better to make more money
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for lifeI dont think they missed an oppurtunity they build a product just to improve on it. Example Adding video camera to the iphone or even mutlitasking just recently. Its the only way for them to continue to make money. They always have to find a way to make there products better to make more money
Apple doesn't do that to improve on it. They do it so people keep buying their product year by year. Things like multitasking has been on phones for awhile, that's not impressive at all. They can put it in now and keep improving it. I was gonna buy a MacBook to add to my iPad, but they way they are handling it has pushed me from apple. So that is losing them money to have everything so locked down, I have seen a lot of people that are doing the same as me.
I finally got around to playing with an iPad today and decided I wouldn't mind buying one once Apple gives us the option to use the damn thing like a laptop replacement. I want to be able to connect my camera to the iPad and download the pictures to the Photo app. I also want to be able to dock my iPhone/iPod shuffle to the iPad and sync it.
Hopefully, they open up the iPad to be more than just another device that relies on a computer.
Hopefully, they open up the iPad to be more than just another device that relies on a computer.
I seriously considered getting an iPad, but it's missing some key features. It's a half-finished pretty tablet.
The best browsing experience as Jobs puts it is actually on a windows PC. I'm a mac lover, but sorry it's true. That's why the win 7 tablets are looking much more attractive than this thing.
The best browsing experience as Jobs puts it is actually on a windows PC. I'm a mac lover, but sorry it's true. That's why the win 7 tablets are looking much more attractive than this thing.
The camera adapter should be available later this month. They don't currently have plans to enable syncing of an iPod or iPhone - still need a computer for that.
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I think the OP has a valid point, although with subsequent posts, the OP appears to be going off the deep end on a temper-tantrum rant with things like Multitasking not being available until this fall. BTW - the reason, which you asked for, I feel qualified to speculate on, having observed Apple's moves for nearly a decade: they don't rush features to market to meet someones expectations of a spec sheet or a bullet list of features (like too many tech companies these days). They release things incrementally, with each step building upon the next, so each improvement works really, really, well. Watching the quality of the user experience that they are able to generate, I would say that strategy is working brilliantly. (and I see so many fail miserably who rush a feature list to market).
On the potential of the missed opportunity, I too thought the same thing when I first heard that the iPad was going to require a host computer. I envisioned my parents getting an iPad and really not needing anything else. It's a bit disappointing that you need a host computer to sync to. That was my first impressions a few weeks ago.
Having used an iPad, for a week now, I can see how someone could have the Apple folks do the initial set-up, and then not ever connect it to a host computer again. My neighbor is going to do this. He is 60, has never owned a computer, and just wants to surf the web, email, and play some poker games. All possible without a host computer. No need to transfer photos, plug in a USB cord, plug in an external HD, or thumb drive, etc, etc.
And that goes to the trouble with laptops for many people these days - they are not really mobile devices anymore. They are movable desktop replacements with a bunch of cords and devices hanging off of them to provide all this desired desktop functionality. Netbooks were supposed to free us of all that clutter and give us true mobility for simple tasks like surfing the web, emailing, and running the occasional word processor or application. The trouble is, like Jobs said, netbooks aren't particularly better at anything. They are slow, clunky hardware and difficult to use.
THAT'S where the iPad comes in. Unlike a laptop used as a desktop replacement, they offer true mobility. Unlike a netbook, they are are snappy, easy to use, elegant form factor and beautiful hardware. I expect that most iPad users will have an un-mobile computer on their desk (like a desktop or a laptop with a bunch of crap plugged into it), and an iPad for mobility.
So no, they are not a laptop replacement, but rather a true mobile computer platform that will complement whatever machine you have on your desktop. For those that have this already with their laptop, of course an iPad is not going to replace that: you already have it. I think the genius of Apple was to realize that very few people are like my neighbor or parents who want to run it without a host computer, and very few people have laptops that are functioning as true mobile devices. Most of us have a desktop computer or a moveable laptop being used as a desktop replacement with tons of crap connected to it. For that big fat middle, the iPad is perfect. It all makes sense to me now.
The companies (and the fact that this word is pluralized should be cause for concern) that are responsible for bringing that product to market have a tendency to fall into that "features list" trap and will rush the full functionality to market, meeting your required bullet list of capabilities, but likely falling far short of what Apple has achieved for user experience. That's the vicious pattern that is emerging for tech companies, and why Apple has a big, big advantage here with their approach. Additionally, having one company responsible for both hardware AND software is also a big advantage. The iSlate is going to suffer from in the user experience simply from having one company make the hardware and another make the OS. (oh, and I forgot - AND another make the processor).
Just wait for the jailbreak. Safari Download manager let's you download any file on the iPhone. I'm sure there will be an iPad version shortly.
In the meantime, I saw something in the app store that claimed to download files, but I don't recall the specifics.
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Obviously they weren't "there" from a software perspective, and it would have just delayed the launch for 6 months.
I don't get it. If it's not what you want, then don't buy it. I love mine.
The Whine And Cheese Crowd Is Hilarious
If you think Apple is evil, controlling, makes crippled products, etc.
DON'T BUY THEIR PRODUCTS!!!
So why do they waste their time moaning instead of buying their dream device and enjoying it?
If you think Apple is evil, controlling, makes crippled products, etc.
DON'T BUY THEIR PRODUCTS!!!
So why do they waste their time moaning instead of buying their dream device and enjoying it?
More than 750,000 buyers in the first 8 days of sales (WiFi only) would seem to indicate your thinking is wrong.
I have no idea but wonder what first week netbook sales were for say Dell or HP when they launched their "groundbreaking" new products with those fantastic feature lists like a desktop OS, USB ports, and an Atom processor but zero content via a nonexistent content delivery system. I also wonder what buyers of all those netbooks are doing with their technology door stops today.
This is how companies like SONY and APPLE turn regular computer users into Hackers. It's cool, because you learn more about computing when you HACK!
+1 i can already do all of those things for the most part