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Then go buy your Slate, and leave the rest of us that like our iPads alone.

Yeah man, your not getting the point of the post. I said they have the better opportunity to define the market, which they do.

I really like Czachorski's post, really well thought out. But my problem with it is why did apple make this only for old people and they want it for a commuter, but won't be able to use it like that either. At some point, they are gonna run into a wall. They will go to a website to look at a video, but wont be able to. They will go to download something, but won't be able to. So even they will need a laptop or desktop still. But I really like your post, and I can see how they wanted to position it. I just think even that market would grow frustrated at it's limitations. That and touch screen keyboards are too new for them haha.

I think people are forgetting that i said the iPad is a great product, it is really good at some of the stuff it does. I just don't get why jobs said it is a net book replacement, when net books do some things better. It is better at viewing the web, just not more fun to use to do it. It is better at content creation, just a lot slower to use. It's even better at content consumption, you aren't locked to getting everything from one place. So if you judge it just like jobs said you should, is it better than a net book, overall the answer is no. It just beats it in speed and ease of use.
 
The best browsing experience as Jobs puts it is actually on a windows PC.

+1

Apple failed to deliver on it's "magical" experience So far IMO Photo wise and browsing wise.

Simple things tab, open apple F make browsing/researching great.
 
If you think Apple is evil, controlling, makes crippled products, etc.

DON'T BUY THEIR PRODUCTS!!!

So why do they waste their time moaning instead of buying their dream device and enjoying it?

So criticizing one product makes the whole company like that? You can't be completely satisfied with the iPad, and this snit botching about it. It's just getting your complaint out there. Obviously there are other people who think the same thing, so maybe the complaints get loud enough apple actually listens to the market. Instead of just bending over and letting apple d elide what is right and what is wrong. They are trying to destroy flash with the tiny market hold they have, tell me their ego isn't out of control.

The sales are huge right now, but i don't see 3G making that anymore sales. It's way more expensive and that is one of the main complaints of it right now. Apple sold way more than the other companies because they have a loyal fan base, great marketing, and it's an exciting new product. Touchscreens are the way of the future for the younger generations, and this was the first real crack at it. It could just be so much more.
 
I love my iPad. It's such a sweet device, I use it everyday, for everything. I can waste hours at a time on it. I use it to watch tv now instead of just looking up something on Comcast on demand. But apple could have revolutionized computers forever. I paid just as much as a MacBook would cost me for my iPad, case, keyboard, and dock. About $900. That puts this thing in co muter territory.

There is only three major flaws to this. The first will be fixed in a pcouole of months, no multitasking. The second is how it. Requires a computer. I can buy setting it up through iTunes once, whatever, but why cant I transfer the music I bought off my ipad onto my iPod? What would that hurt?

The third problem is that they don't allow you to download anything from the Internet. How am i supposed to write my paper when I cant find out what it is about? Why should i have to go to a co muter, download it, send it to my email, buy an app, then open it in that app? What harm will that cause?

Apple already has a small hold in the computer market. The ipad was their breakout chance. I love the idea of a iPhone operating system, but why cant it just be on top of a real operating system that is useable for productive tasks? Apple had a chance to define how computers for school, business, and general tasks would be. Instead, they left their systems potential to be unlocked by hackers, and showed people how make a good tablet, that they can build on anc mad a sauoerior product. Thats just my review of the iPad though.
Because MacBook Touch is on the way.
 
Yeah but that is probably years off.

I agree probably around 3 years.

My guess is that:


1)
iPad will continue to grow in its current format, much larger HD (late-2010)
2) iPad will get OS X or something approaching it due to outcry and take MS Office (2011)
3) Macbook gets discontinued basically being replaced by iPad (2012 or 2013)
4) Macbook pro will be the new Macbook, and new Macbook pro will be very powerful with 4+ cores

5) PC world will probably beat us to the punch, copying iPad, getting a full version of Windows on it, but it won't be as intuitive, but for their credit, it will be very inexpensive ($500-$750 range, Windows plus lots of bundled software, 120 GB ss hard drive).
 
Yeah man, your not getting the point of the post. I said they have the better opportunity to define the market, which they do.

I really like Czachorski's post, really well thought out. But my problem with it is why did apple make this only for old people and they want it for a commuter, but won't be able to use it like that either. At some point, they are gonna run into a wall. They will go to a website to look at a video, but wont be able to. They will go to download something, but won't be able to. So even they will need a laptop or desktop still. But I really like your post, and I can see how they wanted to position it. I just think even that market would grow frustrated at it's limitations. That and touch screen keyboards are too new for them haha.

I think people are forgetting that i said the iPad is a great product, it is really good at some of the stuff it does. I just don't get why jobs said it is a net book replacement, when net books do some things better. It is better at viewing the web, just not more fun to use to do it. It is better at content creation, just a lot slower to use. It's even better at content consumption, you aren't locked to getting everything from one place. So if you judge it just like jobs said you should, is it better than a net book, overall the answer is no. It just beats it in speed and ease of use.

Before Apple hits that wall, they will evolve the device, just as they always do, and also preserve their very high standards of top-notch user experience while adding those additional features. It's an approach that works real well for them, and they have yet to hit a wall with it when used in the past on the iPod and iPhones. Remember for just a second, that the first iPhone has zero apps available for it other than the 10 or so that Apple shipped it with. No app store, no vendors, no way to do anything with the phone other than those few Apple apps. The original iPod was Mac only, for god sakes. Can you cripple yourself right out of the gate more than that? And yet Apple focused on user experience, incrementally improved the device while preserving these high standards, and emerged as the market leader with a highly functional device without sacrificing the end user experience. It's what they do.

I think I see better where you are coming from, hearing your perspective of how netbooks are better than an iPad for many things, for you. They key words here being "for you", because I think most people in the market for a true mobility computer would disagree or not care about most of what you listed as netbooks advantages. The market will bear this out (or you could say is bearing this out, judging by the huge iPad sales in the first 8 days).

For example, I hear many people make the claim, just as you did, that you are "locked in" to getting everything in one place. This is not an accurate statement at all. The only thing that this it is actually true for is the app store, and I think that most people won't care or notice, because 1) there are thousands of vendors providing apps, not just Apple, and 2) people will see the high quality app user experience that results from having the app development process tightly regulated by Apple, and will value that over being able to buys apps from multiple "stores". As far as ALL other content, you are absolutely not locked in, with the ability to get music, videos and even books from other sources besides Apple.

I don't understand the comment about netbooks being better to surf the web. I find surfing the web on a touch screen to be far superior and convenient than using a tiny touch pad on a small mini-laptop. If you were referring to the inability to download files, as previously stated, there are 3rd party apps like GoodReader that do this now, and I am sure the clunky file management is something Apple will address later (all part of that incremental improvement process that they use so well).

I also think that the statement about netbooks being superior for content creation would be disagreed by many. With apps like pages, numbers, keynote, Omnigraffle, Autodesk's Sketchbook Pro, ArtStudio, Bento all available for iPad in the first week, with a tidal wave more coming, all with interfaces custom designed for the iPad's touch screen interface, I think the content creation potential of this platform is very high. Were developers custom designing apps to run on the form factor of netbooks (I honestly don't know, having never explored it, but I would doubt it). Was the hardware of those netbooks and the OS they were running custom designed to optimize performance and work together to enhance the end user experience? I know with more certainly that was not the case.

Netbook makers slapping a copy of Windows on their underpowered computers and hoping that content creation apps designed to work on much more powerful hardware and with much more screen real estate simply results in a miserable content creation user experience. It's like netbook makers are starting with 2 strikes against them and batting with a kiddie-plastic bat for the ability to generate a good user experience with all their limitations in their approach, business model, hardware integration, software vendor model and OS licensing model.

This is the real advantage that Apple has with the iPad, and why I believe that it is absolutely a netbook killer. I also believe it will finally tap the gigantic untapped market that netbooks started to tap and never fully reached - people seeking a true mobile solution with a good user experience.

So perhaps, "for you" a netbook may be a superior device, but I believe that your case will be the exception, so much so that I believe that the iPad will be the death of netbook as we now know them.
 
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