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What's the point of this exactly?
iTunes on Windows used to be a companion music management app/store that made iPod/iPhones compatible with Windows. Over the years Apple made more content and services that made iTunes more and more bloated. They should have split Apple Music/TV/Podcasts into separate apps a long time ago, just like they did on macOS.
 
How's iMazing working out for you? I was just pondering that; I'm not sure there is another competitor to this s/w...
I mostly use it for backups and transferring files, and have used it for installing slightly older iOS/iPadOS versions (IPSW files) via MDM. It all worked fine so far. I don’t think there’s any similar product.
 
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As someone who doesn’t use the Apple Music service and instead has a large library of local music files (imported, and purchased over the years from the iTunes Store and others) that is then synced to my iPhone using iTunes, can these new apps still do that?

In other words, can they still work with that existing iTunes library and sync it to my iPhone?

(this may seem like a dumb question but since everything is so focused on the Apple Music service now it isn’t really clear to me if these can still do it “the old way”)
 
So far off to a rough start, i go to sign in and nothing happens after. Still shows im not signed in and have none of my music lol. I guess sticking to the website for now
Same here. Log in and...nothing. Way to go Apple.
 
As someone who doesn’t use the Apple Music service and instead has a large library of local music files (imported, and purchased over the years from the iTunes Store and others) that is then synced to my iPhone using iTunes, can these new apps still do that?

In other words, can they still work with that existing iTunes library and sync it to my iPhone?

(this may seem like a dumb question but since everything is so focused on the Apple Music service now it isn’t really clear to me if these can still do it “the old way”)
I can fully manage my iTunes Match, purchased iTunes tracks with Apple Music in macos and itunes for Windows (prior to the new update we are currently discussing)...Apple Music makes it slightly messy, you'll need to utilize the "sorting" feature alot though IF you have Apple Music subscription; as you do not it will be easier to use.
 
Why do we need this bloatware in the first place? On my S23 Ultra, even leaving aside Dex, connecting to the PC opens a file manager into my phone just like how a computer ought to.
 
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Came here to say the same thing. I don’t know if I’m getting older or what, but back in the day I rarely needed to look anything up to use Apple/Mac software and applications. Now I have to constantly look stuff up on the internet to find where the heck {insert common action/feature here} is.

All this stuff doesn’t seem as intuitive as it use to be. Is it just me?
Probably because it wasn't as feature-rich as it is today?
 
I don't know. I have been using the Apple Music Preview for a few months on my gaming laptop and it works just fine. I have all my music downloaded, matched, etc., It works fine.

Is it fantastic? Eh, it works. That's what I will say. It downloads new music automatically, the store searches fine, I can rate things, it has playlists. No major crashes.

The only thing that annoys me is the sharing notifications--which exists on my mac as well, so....yay?
 
Yet you cannot run iTunes on the latest macOS. o_O
Apple discontinued iTunes on macOS in 2019… so yeah, you can’t run it on the latest macOS. Windows was supposed to follow a couple of years later, but Apple ran into issues with changes taking place within Windows during that time. Microsoft came in to help finish the job, with their App Store exclusivity attached.
 
I respectfully disagree. I prefer doing that right from the finder.
I’m glad it’s working for you. I often have to go into Activity Monitor and kill the “AMP” processes that manage iPod syncing and maybe then it’ll decide to show my iPods and sync them. It’s always slower to go through a sync than it ever was on iTunes (on a MacBook Air with Mojave from 2012, compared to my 2022 M2 Air), and wifi auto sync never seems to activate even when the computer is open until I purposefully click on the iPod or iPhone in the sidebar. Sometimes after a sync has happened the Music app needs to be relaunched for play counts to show up in the app too. :(

I also can’t get 1st generation iPod shuffles to show me the sync options at all.
 
The only Windows application I know that requires a restart after sound device changes (like bluetooth headphones or dac, etc.).
If you give it long enough, it will pick it up, but yeah, I just restart too :D Doh!
 
As stated, converting would be a non-starter due to ALAC’s numerous shortcomings. But thank you for confirming this. The solution is to keep pushing for proper FLAC support, something absolutely no other modern media player has an issue with. People said that iTunes was “old” and Apple would never update it. This is new, and still unjustifiably limited. I wonder what new excuse they can come up with now.

Genuinely curious what ALAC's "numerous shortcomings" are. I've ripped all my CDs over the years to ALAC, and it's fine? It's just a lossless audio format.
 
I wonder how this will work with AltStore. I suppose we will be able to use iTunes for now, but I suspect they will deprecate it in the near future.
 
Genuinely curious what ALAC's "numerous shortcomings" are. I've ripped all my CDs over the years to ALAC, and it's fine? It's just a lossless audio format.
With all due respect, I really can’t be bothered to explain this again and again every single time the topic comes up. The issues are well documented at this point. It comes down to compression efficiency, hardware/software support, and data integrity. I do encourage you to do your research on the differences between them, which go beyond their capability to losslessly compress PCM audio, but if you are happy with what you currently have then maybe it’s not a tree worth barking up.

Since ALAC as it currently exists can not be considered an archival quality format, I personally will not be using ALAC for any reason. If Apple ever decides to support FLAC like literally everyone else in this segment of the market, great. That’s what my archive is remaining as.
 
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As far as I can tell nothing plays at more than 16/44 regardless of what you have the audio quality set to.

I can't figure out ho to get it to use WASAPI as iTunes did.
 
I wonder what they did about podcasts?

On MacOS, they added a podcasts app, but it has been largely derided, and justly so. Failures to follow Apple's standard UI models and guidelines, loss of major functionality previously present in the iTunes version, etc.
 
Genuinely curious what ALAC's "numerous shortcomings" are. I've ripped all my CDs over the years to ALAC, and it's fine? It's just a lossless audio format.
I had the same question and looked it up.

"ALAC has significant disadvantages. For example, it is less widely supported than other lossless audio formats, making it harder to play on non-Apple devices. Second, it may not compress as well as other lossless audio formats, resulting in slightly larger file sizes."


So two disadvantages, not as widely supported, and slightly larger file size. The latter is less relevant than it once was. The former may or may not be an issue depending on you.

The rest is audiophiles sneering at the proles, safely ignored.
 
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