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I’m just shocked at how fast FaceID works. It even recognized me with a cap and sunglasses on yesterday when I was paying at the gas station! Coming from TouchID on my 8+ I thought it was going to be a hassle but far from it. So far it’s been seamless.
 
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Well for me, I like the TouchID method. No, I haven't tried FaceID yet. So perhaps it's not as onerous as it sounds.

But for TouchID, I don't have to double tap anything, look at the screen, or swipe up or any of that other nonsense. I just pull my phone out of my pocket with my thumb on the Home Key (remember that thing?) and get it near the NFC reader and *poof* done. I don't even have to look directly at it.

Done.
 
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Well for me, I like the TouchID method. No, I haven't tried FaceID yet. So perhaps it's not as onerous as it sounds.

But for TouchID, I don't have to double tap anything, look at the screen, or swipe up or any of that other nonsense. I just pull my phone out of my pocket with my thumb on the Home Key (remember that thing?) and get it near the NFC reader and *poof* done. I don't even have to look directly at it.

Done.

Exactly! This!

And I’ve tried both. Still Touch ID was faster for me. Plus it’s really annoying to have to pick the device up every time to unlock it.

The restriction in terms of distance from the face and angles. I have a habit of using the phone while lying down in bed. Its absolutely impossible to unlock Face ID with sleepy eyes as well
 
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Have I understood this correctly? Apple Pay was touch ID, really easy, hold the phone to the reader with your thumb on the home button, a quick easy, smooth process, but, with Face ID you have to double click the power button and hold the phone up to your face?

I don't use Apple pay on the watch because it is, relatively speaking, awkward. It seems Face ID phones have made it less smooth, less seamless. I think I'll just go back to using the cards, just tap and go.
If your thumb gets wet (e.g. by handling frozen goods) then the touch-ID doesn't work... FYI: My face-ID unlocks at my arm's length. I was a skeptic before getting face-ID, now I'm a BIG fan.
 
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Face ID is fast and easy

So is TouchID.

In my opinion, neither methods are superior to the other. Both have their conveniences and heartache. I have had my X for over a year now and although I accept FaceID is here to stay, I am not happy with it as a method to unlock my phone. Way too many failures and way to many times I need to re-position my phone to unlock. And My X will never unlock at hips length. Funny enough, once I am using my phone, and I need to use FaceID to authenticate, it never fails. And this is where I love FaceID. It's just seamless. If I had to pick one over the other, I would still choose TouchID but that is simply preference.
 
Much prefer using Touch ID than Face ID when using Apple Pay. So much simpler and way less awkward. I completely agree with OP.
 
Paying w Credit card, ApplePay w Touch ID or Face ID are all so easy and fast, arguing which one is "better" is silly. They're all equally good and fast with  Pay winning in the over kill & techno-wowie category. I used to use  pay all the time. It was fast. Now where I live no one uses it and it makes zero difference to me. Just as easy to use a cc.  pay is a lot of hype about nothing. Really- it's an unecessary gimmick. But fun.
 
Paying w Credit card, ApplePay w Touch ID or Face ID are all so easy and fast, arguing which one is "better" is silly. They're all equally good and fast with  Pay winning in the over kill & techno-wowie category. I used to use  pay all the time. It was fast. Now where I live no one uses it and it makes zero difference to me. Just as easy to use a cc.  pay is a lot of hype about nothing. Really- it's an unecessary gimmick. But fun.
I don't know that I would call it silly. For some, going from a method that worked well and supposedly "progressing" to a method that doesn't work as well is understandably frustrating.
 
Face ID doesn't like my face, so my preference is for Touch ID.

Yes, I've reset Face ID a few times. It still has problems recognizing me.
 
But it doesn’t work with gloves. FaceID does. We can play this game as long as you want to.

Yep, I can play this game as well. Such as FaceID doesn’t work with sunglasses. The bottom line is, it depends on which one is more inconvenient to you.
 
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Paying w Credit card, ApplePay w Touch ID or Face ID are all so easy and fast, arguing which one is "better" is silly. They're all equally good and fast with  Pay winning in the over kill & techno-wowie category. I used to use  pay all the time. It was fast. Now where I live no one uses it and it makes zero difference to me. Just as easy to use a cc.  pay is a lot of hype about nothing. Really- it's an unecessary gimmick. But fun.

This is absolutely incorrect. Previously I used to carry my phone and my wallet. Now I carry only my phone or even just the  watch.

If you have moved somewhere where people don’t use  pay or the technology is not supported then there’s not much you can do really and carrying a wallet / bringing you card out is the only option you’ve got and in those circumstances if you feel like it doesn’t make much of a difference to you then that’s good for you. But in places where it’s widely supported it’s not just fast and convenient, it’s also way more secure than a traditional card transaction.
 
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Yep, I can play this game as well. Such as FaceID doesn’t work with sunglasses. The bottom line is, it depends on which one is more inconvenient to you.
Face ID works with sunglasses. It depends on the lens. I have two pairs and Face ID only works with one pair.
 
For me, FaceID sometimes works with my polarised sunglasses, but most of the time it does not. Especially when the sun is shining really bright and coming from a certain angle.
 
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For me, FaceID sometimes works with my polarised sunglasses, but most of the time it does not. Especially when the sun is shining really bright and coming from a certain angle.
You're holding it wrong.

j/k

I've used three methods for Apple Pay. TouchID with my iPhone6. DoubleClick with my AW. And FaceID with my iPhone Xs.

The best method is definitely the AW, except when the reader is in an awkward location, which is rare.

Between TouchID and FaceID on iPhones, FaceID seems to work a lot faster. Maybe it was because I had an iPhone6, but having to put the phone on the reader, waiting for it to trigger ApplePay, then TouchID registering, it was quite a long time. Then there were the instances where the reader didn't trigger the NFC, so I'd have to swirl the phone around the reader to find the sweet spot.

With the Xs, I just double click, quick glance, and then place the phone over the reader. There's positive feedback that I've hit the sweet spot of the reader, so there's no waiting and guessing.

In the end, it's not that big a deal either way, especially since I have an AW and that method is so much easier.
 
You're holding it wrong.

j/k

I've used three methods for Apple Pay. TouchID with my iPhone6. DoubleClick with my AW. And FaceID with my iPhone Xs.

The best method is definitely the AW, except when the reader is in an awkward location, which is rare.

Between TouchID and FaceID on iPhones, FaceID seems to work a lot faster. Maybe it was because I had an iPhone6, but having to put the phone on the reader, waiting for it to trigger ApplePay, then TouchID registering, it was quite a long time. Then there were the instances where the reader didn't trigger the NFC, so I'd have to swirl the phone around the reader to find the sweet spot.

With the Xs, I just double click, quick glance, and then place the phone over the reader. There's positive feedback that I've hit the sweet spot of the reader, so there's no waiting and guessing.

In the end, it's not that big a deal either way, especially since I have an AW and that method is so much easier.
I think a lot of people don’t realize, you can pre-authenticate an Apple Pay transaction with Touch ID just like with Face ID. So there’s no reason why a Touch ID phone would be recognized by a reader slower than a Face ID phone, except maybe as you said, your iPhone 6 was just older and slower in general.
 
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I think a lot of people don’t realize, you can pre-authenticate an Apple Pay transaction with Touch ID just like with Face ID. So there’s no reason why a Touch ID phone would be recognized by a reader slower than a Face ID phone, except maybe as you said, your iPhone 6 was just older and slower in general.
I know, but for whatever reason, that was never my workflow. It was always, place the phone on the reader, wait for the ApplePay to pop up, then thumbscan ... although step 2 and 3 were bang/bang.

But pre-authorizing on my 6 was very slow too. Double clicking the home button, but being careful not to activate TouchID so as not to get past the lock screen. Then I'd have to start over or find the Wallet app.

On the Xs, double clicking the power button doesn't bring you to the home screen. Seems to work better, but it could be recency bias too.
 
I know, but for whatever reason, that was never my workflow. It was always, place the phone on the reader, wait for the ApplePay to pop up, then thumbscan ... although step 2 and 3 were bang/bang.

But pre-authorizing on my 6 was very slow too. Double clicking the home button, but being careful not to activate TouchID so as not to get past the lock screen. Then I'd have to start over or find the Wallet app.

On the Xs, double clicking the power button doesn't bring you to the home screen. Seems to work better, but it could be recency bias too.

I see. I think I always use the tip of my thumb to double click so I’ve never had the issue of going to home screen. But also once on homescreen, instead of going to the wallet app, a faster alternative is to pull down the notification center and double click the home button from there to invoke Apple Pay.

edit- Actually, how does one invoke Apple Pay through the wallet app?
 
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