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I like Macrumors but maybe we can have a separate news feed for the posts about every retailer that's contemplating ApplePay or every artist that's considering Apple Music.

Throw the watchbands in that feed too, while we're at it.

Also throw in new Apple Store openings and new Apple commercials. I don't care about a new Apple Store opening in Europe or that there is a new iPhone commercial on TV.

I'm going to guess that people click on these stories. I sure hope MacRumors doesn't keep posting stories that nobody cares about.
 
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Also throw in new Apple Store openings and new Apple commercials. I don't care about a new Apple Store opening in Europe or that there is a new iPhone commercial on TV.

I'm going to guess that people click on these stories. I sure hope MacRumors doesn't keep posting stories that nobody cares about.

I like news about Apple Pay and I live in Europe.

My sister likes Watch and news.

My mom likes the commercials.

None of us really care about the music but know there are others who do.

To my knowledge, none of us is bitćhing about the likes of the others infringing on our likes; we just flip to the next story.
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This should push their sales even higher at this family friendly restaurant.

"Family friendly" is Code Talk for "marriage discrimination" friendly.
[doublepost=1471526684][/doublepost]For my part, as a hetro Christian, I never understood the DOMA fans.

No heterosexual ever went gay because it was allowed, no sane heterosexual couple ever refused to marry because gays were allowed to.

The cynic in me also wonders if CFA went whole hog in support of DOMA, not because of outdated religious interpretations, but more to avoid having to extend benefits to married homo couples (anybody know if CFA recognizes domestic partnerships by extending benefits?)
 
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I've never visited a Chick-fil-A. By the name alone it sounds disgusting. It sounds like a brand of reconstituted chickenmeat blend used to sculpt nuggets and other novelty puréed-animal shapes. Chick-Fill-A, like Soylent Pink for chickens. And that logo doesn't help.

They make the best chicken sandwiches, have very friendly staff, and do terrific community work, there must be some non-obvious reason why you would be so negative. Care to share?
 
The fact that Apple Pay has been around nearly two years now makes this statement incredibly pathetic.

I know it's not entirely Apple's fault; but they've definitely dropped the ball in terms of helping retailers understand why it's important to make the investment and support the technology. Whoever is "in charge" of Apple Pay might end up sharing Forstall's fate.


It's not at all Apple's fault. Their deal is with the banks. It's up to the banks and credit card companies to push proper chip-and-pin and contactless. Once your CC is good to go with Apple Pay, it will work anywhere contactless is accepted.
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Not to Apple. One brings in th cash, the other doesn't

One has nothing to do with the other. NFC at the terminal enables Apple PAy IF your credit card provider has a deal with Apple.

The reason for the low acceptance in the US is that while banks were pretty quick to modify the back ends to deal with Apple, NFC terminal adeployment has been abysmal.
 
From a totally objective standpoint, is it not any more unfair for someone who, in this example, believes in gay marriage to force their views upon someone who disagrees, by way of laws?

Everyone in this country has a voice and everyone in this country deserves a right to say what they believe. And ultimately someone (our elected representatives) makes a ruling, based on their people's feedback. And that's that. Sometimes we agree with rulings, and sometimes we do not.

Frankly I think it's terrific that everyone has a voice in this country. That's what America was founded upon.

Unfortunately. today, political correctness requires certain views to be harshly put down. American is no longer the shinning light of freedom of speech that it once was. Today, if one does not support a particular belief then those that do believe will lie, cheat, steal, burn, etc. to stifle that view. We are no longer a country of tolerance, but a country of angry mobs. A country that tries to destroys the messenger, that tries to limit free speech. Its taught at university, its supported by the government, its supported by companies, and it is sad.
 
The fact that Apple Pay has been around nearly two years now makes this statement incredibly pathetic.

I know it's not entirely Apple's fault; but they've definitely dropped the ball in terms of helping retailers understand why it's important to make the investment and support the technology. Whoever is "in charge" of Apple Pay might end up sharing Forstall's fate.

No, it's because the owners of Chik-Fil-A are notoriously anti-gay. When Chik-Fil-A used gay marriage as a edge issue to drum up business, in the states where the majority of people were against gay marriage...

But I've also said business is supposed to look above and beyond personal issues. Cook isn't going to live there, so is he going to care if franchises down there turn gay people into nuggets? Not if there's money to be made? I don't know.
 
One staunch, PC-loving liberal's opinion ...

I have absolutely no problem with Apple Pay teaming with Chik-Fil-A. Businesses should be concerned about selling their product to the widest audience possible, and not involve themselves in the politics of their prospective customers.
 
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Unfortunately. today, political correctness requires certain views to be harshly put down. American is no longer the shinning light of freedom of speech that it once was. Today, if one does not support a particular belief then those that do believe will lie, cheat, steal, burn, etc. to stifle that view. We are no longer a country of tolerance, but a country of angry mobs. A country that tries to destroys the messenger, that tries to limit free speech. Its taught at university, its supported by the government, its supported by companies, and it is sad.

I feel most for ex-gays. The most active (in parades) gays are no less intolerant of them as they are toward gay people who don't act or look the way they do (read "straight acting, looking").

And you're right - tolerance, on all sides, has become a thing of the past. I don't mind trying to be polite and working with people, but a lot of people do forget or not realize the underlying meanings and I too have been yelled at when retorting "love conquers h8" with "so explain the HIV crisis where gay people who have it don't tell partners and spread it, since when is spreading an ultimately lethal disease controlled by drugs with side-effects too few people discuss, is an act of love and not hate?!!!" People hate that because that act of hate is in direct contradiction to their meme. I'm not dissing the meme since love can indeed win over hate, I'm dissing the ******** due to statistics and stereotyped attitudes from within and discrimination within the gay community is a lot worse because it, oddly enough, is almost never talked about. That's also a reason why the ex-gay number is so high, though there are many possible reasons. Never mind the irony in "straight looking and acting, no femmes, etc...")
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One staunch, PC-loving liberal's opinion ...

I have absolutely no problem with Apple Pay teaming with Chik-Fil-A. Businesses should be concerned about selling their product to the widest audience possible, and not involve themselves in the politics of their prospective customers.

That's how it was devised, but even early on it didn't end up that way. I've advocated that mindset too, but I can fathom multiple points of view. But why"? I do see how some want "freedom" to justify discriminating, citing religious preference and intent. Others want their own discrimination all while trying to convince us how discrimination against them is bad. Nobody wants to make any REAL effort. It's always just empty memes, which is borderline with narcissism. Or maybe I'm becoming too cynical so I might take a step back and take a deep breath and not wind myself up into situations that, while not untrue, can easily be taken out of context or beyond reasonable situations.
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This should push their sales even higher at this family friendly restaurant.

It should make fundies' heads go all splodey since Apple's CEO is what they would call "flaming", even though he's been largely dignified regarding the issue.
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"Eat more kale."

A better reason to hate on Chik-Fil-A than the gay marriage thing, which was overblown.

Why was it overblown? They made good profits in doing so. Isn't profit that matters most in life, nothing else, ever? Even if the environment is trashed out of cheap and disposable convenience instead of organized, rational handling and valuing long-term? Who needs that, anyway?
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So I guess you missed the story about local chick-fil-as bringing food to folks donating blood in the wake of the Orlando shooting at a gay club....on a Sunday....

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/14/chick-fil-a-orlando-shooting/

Thank you for posting! Lots of us missed it, and it shows a more complex and equally interesting side to the company. It could be an individual franchise, or it could be corporate (as instructed by the main owners). Either way, it was REALLY nice to read. Reminds me there's more than just cynicism in life, and a part of that "more" is "tolerance"...
 
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I'm not sure about Apple Pay. At first I thought it was amazing but I rarely hear of people actually using it anymore.
I know people on here probably do but most ordinary people probably don't.
It's always such a guess whether or not a store will accept it and if it will work.

I think the problem is that people still have to carry their wallet for things like their drivers license. If Apple managed to replace the entire wallet with things like a digital drivers license people might use it more.
Do people have to talk about it to make it relevant? I definitely prefer to shop at places that have implemented it, but the biggest issue is in-store training, as I often find the readers that say they do ApplePay, but it requires action from an untrained cashier to initiate the transaction. As for digital drivers licenses, no thank you, keep those away from me.

I've never visited a Chick-fil-A. By the name alone it sounds disgusting. It sounds like a brand of reconstituted chickenmeat blend used to sculpt nuggets and other novelty puréed-animal shapes. Chick-Fill-A, like Soylent Pink for chickens. And that logo doesn't help.
Thanks for your uninformed opinion.

Well, it's the principle of the thing. And the sandwiches I've had weren't all that great. If you add to that their stance of forcing their religious beliefs on their employees, I'd rather have a sandwich from Wendy's or kfc or wherever.
Let me know when CFA forces beliefs on their employees.

I have been using Apple Pay at Chick-Fil A for at least a year (and it is advertised as such... in 3 different states nonetheless)- I am not sure how this is news...
None of the ones in my region have implemented ApplePay, let alone chip readers.

Really Tim? Selling out your politics to a fast food chicken hawker?
Ah yes, Tim was the one who honchoed this whole implementation ApplePay.

Maybe this is the bottom of the barrel? Right above (dead)Beats and Carpool karaoke... .
Yeah, right. Thanks for the insight. /s
I like news about Apple Pay and I live in Europe.

"Family friendly" is Code Talk for "marriage discrimination" friendly.
Since you live in Europe, is it safe to say that you've never been to a CFA? Family Friendly is not code talk for anything, because if you've ever been to one, you'd know what they mean by that. It's clean, it's got place mats for children, they also have playgrounds (unlike other fast food chains which have done away with them). Most, if not all have high chairs, along with free cheerios for parents to feed to babies who can't eat their food. Hardly code talk.
 
No, it's because the owners of Chik-Fil-A are notoriously anti-gay. When Chik-Fil-A used gay marriage as a edge issue to drum up business, in the states where the majority of people were against gay marriage...

But I've also said business is supposed to look above and beyond personal issues. Cook isn't going to live there, so is he going to care if franchises down there turn gay people into nuggets? Not if there's money to be made? I don't know.

I'm not following. What does any of what you said have to do with what I said?
 
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Unfortunately. today, political correctness requires certain views to be harshly put down. American is no longer the shinning light of freedom of speech that it once was. Today, if one does not support a particular belief then those that do believe will lie, cheat, steal, burn, etc. to stifle that view. We are no longer a country of tolerance, but a country of angry mobs. A country that tries to destroys the messenger, that tries to limit free speech. Its taught at university, its supported by the government, its supported by companies, and it is sad.
You're absolutely right. It's really sad. In the context of what me and the other gentleman were discussing, what I find interesting is that "homophobes" (the incorrectly used word that occurs often these days) have no issues buying Starbucks, Apple, Google, or heck even Target products. They are totally okay with purchasing from a company that disagrees with them. It's a free country. We don't have to all agree.

However, it's the namecallers that are the most vocal and refuse to give their dollar to businesses that disagree with them (i.e.-"homophobes"). And that's fine. It's 100% their right to do so. But I do find it interesting that the folks that are called "intolerant" are, in some ways, the most tolerant.

Also, the word phobia means fear of. Chickfila didn't seem to have a fear of the gay community that was impacted by the tragedy in Orlando. They gave free food to blood donors that were TRYING TO HELP the gay community. That doesn't sound too homophobic to me.
 
It is different because no ones rights to practice their religion are infringed upon if gays can marry. That doesn't infringe on anyone's right to practice their religion at all. All gay marriage rights do is allow gay people to marry. A right that has been denied them in some states, but, thankfully, that injustice has ended.

Tell that to the photographers, florists, and bakers who have been sued by declining to service gay weddings because they conflict with their religious beliefs.
 
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I've never visited a Chick-fil-A. By the name alone it sounds disgusting. It sounds like a brand of reconstituted chickenmeat blend used to sculpt nuggets and other novelty puréed-animal shapes. Chick-Fill-A, like Soylent Pink for chickens. And that logo doesn't help.

I've never been, either, but I think they have a well-designed logo.
 
The fact that Apple Pay has been around nearly two years now makes this statement incredibly pathetic.

On the good side of things, two million US locations now take contactless payments. On the downside, that's still only about 1/5 of the total, almost all of which Samsung Pay can already use because of its combination of both NFC and magnetic swipe technology.

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I think the main reason Americans aren't adopting smartphone payments as quickly as thought, is because we skipped an evolutionary step.

In other countries, many people have had contactless cards for years. Thus they are used to tap & go. The US hasn't really gone through that phase yet. Here's just a couple of reasons why:

In the US there are literally thousands of banks, and they're not also in control of merchant acquirers. In countries like the UK and Australia, the situation is more like where one major bank could decide to issue contactless cards AND terminals, and boom the changeover is very quick and orderly. Other major banks soon followed.

The US is also spread out much more geographically. Even in wide open Australia, the majority of the population lives in major cities and/or near the shore. It's easier to get people to adopt something new when the feature is concentrated and highly visible. (Similarly in the UK, contactless usage drops off the further you get from a major population point.)

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So... I think one possible key to quicker NFC adoption in the US, would be for banks spend the money to send contactless cards out to a tipping point number of Americans. But banks would have to see that as worthwhile spending (cards are costly).

Just some observations.
 
On the good side of things, two million US locations now take contactless payments. On the downside, that's still only about 1/5 of the total, almost all of which Samsung Pay can already use because of its combination of both NFC and magnetic swipe technology.

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I think the main reason Americans aren't adopting smartphone payments as quickly as thought, is because we skipped an evolutionary step.

In other countries, many people have had contactless cards for years. Thus they are used to tap & go. The US hasn't really gone through that phase yet. Here's just a couple of reasons why:

In the US there are literally thousands of banks, and they're not also in control of merchant acquirers. In countries like the UK and Australia, the situation is more like where one major bank could decide to issue contactless cards AND terminals, and boom the changeover is very quick and orderly. Other major banks soon followed.

The US is also spread out much more geographically. Even in wide open Australia, the majority of the population lives in major cities and/or near the shore. It's easier to get people to adopt something new when the feature is concentrated and highly visible. (Similarly in the UK, contactless usage drops off the further you get from a major population point.)

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So... I think one possible key to quicker NFC adoption in the US, would be for banks spend the money to send contactless cards out to a tipping point number of Americans. But banks would have to see that as worthwhile spending (cards are costly).

Just some observations.

Except we already tried contactless cards and they were such a PR disaster that almost no bank dares to even think about bringing them back, let alone promoting that the feature exists (looking at you, AmEx and Citi). I've seen more than a few major banks including language in their chip card documentation that in effect says that the cards can't be tapped, which one would think would not be necessary if people simply weren't using that feature.

In fact, I almost think that Visa and MasterCard's given up on contactless for the US altogether considering their huge push for stuff like Quick Chip and M/Chip Fast. Even without the fear factor contactless is much harder to justify using when most transactions already go through without a signature or a PIN and can be run while the cashier's still scanning your items.

All said, I still think Apple did the right thing by bringing it to the US first. At least it'll probably be usable in 50-60% of stores eventually--which might be enough for most people's day to day shopping--whereas if they waited a year or two it's very possible almost no store would bother.
 
I've never visited a Chick-fil-A. By the name alone it sounds disgusting. It sounds like a brand of reconstituted chickenmeat blend used to sculpt nuggets and other novelty puréed-animal shapes. Chick-Fill-A, like Soylent Pink for chickens. And that logo doesn't help.

So you have no clue what it is, but bash it anyways. Yep, sounds like the internet.
 
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I honestly don't understand this boycotts. Nothing against you specifically, but when I buy coffee from Sbux, I buy coffee. When I buy a chicken sandwhich, I buy a chicken sandwhich. And when I buy an Apple product, I buy an Apple product. I am not saving the world.
There is absolutely no ethical weight on the customer, except that I believe that many think that they are somewhat activists and socially active just by avoiding a shop.

If I had to boycott based on things I disagree with I would have no food, no drinks, no house, no possessions...
It's pure narcissism. They believe they're important enough to think a company like that gives a crap if they won't eat/drink/whatever there while doing nothing but annoying people telling them why they refuse to eat there. Thumbs up, blowhards.
 
It's pure narcissism. They believe they're important enough to think a company like that gives a crap if they won't eat/drink/whatever there while doing nothing but annoying people telling them why they refuse to eat there. Thumbs up, blowhards.
I don't know what he refers to (not living in the US), but I don't think he said anything about the company giving a crap about them.
Just that he doesn't agree with some event that happened and decided not to eat there anymore.
If I think a brand makes **** product or has some things I totally disagree with, I won't buy from them anymore.
Not for them to care, simply because there are other options and why would I go somewhere I don't feel comfortable with?
 
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Yahweh would not approve of that.

Actually it's very consistent. The CEO doesn't have anyone doing something that he wouldn't do or hasn't done before. It's quite an interesting concept, and CFA workers are quite happy and with a high retention rate.
 
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