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I’ve never had a car key fob fail me. Can’t say the same for a cell phone.

And when I go to the gym, I need my gym fob so the car key is a good place for that. I don’t even take my phone to the gym. 4G watch and earphones wins out.

I actually had a car key fob fail on me away from home and was glad I could lock/unlock the car using the app 😂

Check if your gym app offers a pass for your wallet like mine does, and yes, I can unlock my car from my watch as well ;)
 
I'm a bit confused. I've been using digital car keys in Lexus and Tesla vehicles for some years now. These cars even recognized the driver - my spouse also has digital keys. However, these keys don't show up on my wallet app. I just open the vehicle driver's door. Is this Apple implementation a different approach that requires users to hold the phone against a vehicle NFC reader?
It will use UWB, so it should behave just like the Tesla and Lexus. I have been using the feature on Tesla as well, so not exactly a game changing feature, other than having the card available in the wallet app.

Theres already too much crap in my wallet app, so I’m indifferent, as I already have this functionality.
 
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I’ve never had a car key fob fail me. Can’t say the same for a cell phone.

Maybe not, but the number of times I've misplaced a key fob or it's ended up in the wrong person's pocket and they've gone off somewhere... but I always know where my phone is!
 
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Not a very up to date list. 2024- Mini’s are not on there.

Yeh for folks confused, this isn’t like Tesla’s implementation, which uses its own app. This is far better. Uses nfc/wallet to unlock. Even if phone battery is dead. You can allow access and even drive permission to others remotely. It’s pretty cool.
 
The way these "dumb" digital keys work allow you to use/unlock your vehicle by just opening the driver door (sure, the manufacturer app needs to be running in the background). Apple's implementation requires you to get your phone out and hold it against the vehicle NFC reader? if so the only advantage I could see is if it works when your phone is dead 🤷‍♂️
cool
 
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I am still trying to figure out how official Car Key support is different from the apps the car manufacturer's use. Was debating a 2025 Mini Cooper, which says I can use my phone to unlock and start my car, but no mention of it on Apple's site and it mentions a MINI app.
This article relates to what BMW/Mini currently has now. 2025 Mini Cooper is the same implementation as BMW. You use the Wallet app for your car key. So you can unlock/drive away using your iPhone/Wallet. Nothing to do with the Mini app. You can even grant remote access and drive permission to others.
 
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VW, Audi and Skoda vehicles share a common chassis and other frameworks including telematics and control systems. Porsche are part of the group but don’t share technology. I wish they did, but alas…
I see. Well ok then. But I wouldn't expect it for a few years and only for the top models...
 
You don’t have to open the app unless you want to unlock it remotely (ie: when you are not near the vehicle).

You just walk up the car with your phone in your pocket and it unlocks automatically. You sit in the driver’s seat and it drives. No other interaction required.

Cool. Impressive. The future is here.
 
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VW, Audi and Skoda vehicles share a common chassis and other frameworks including telematics and control systems. Porsche are part of the group but don’t share technology.

Some vehicle platforms are shared between Porsche and Audi. For example, the Audi e-tron GT has the same underpinnings (chassis, drivetrain, battery, software, etc) as the Porsche Taycan. Same goes for the new Macan and Q6 e-tron.
 
Uses nfc/wallet to unlock. Even if phone battery is dead. You can allow access and even drive permission to others remotely. It’s pretty cool.

Another advantage of Apple's implementation, presumably, is that being in Wallet it will work with an Apple Watch, not just the phone?

It's occasionally annoying that I can't put a Tesla key on my Watch: I don't want to go running with my phone, for example.

(Tesla does allow you to add new drivers remotely, from the security section in the app).
 
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Unless I'm mistaken, this feature enables the phone to work as a key even when it's dead. It's writing to the NFC chip on the phone (or maybe just pairing the chip to the car) so that the car can passively read it even if the phone is dead.

So this would reduce the need for Tesla's keycards (of course, the keycard is still nice for valet.)
That would be awesome if they added it. But with the current leadership, I don’t see it happening.
 
Another advantage of Apple's implementation, presumably, is that being in Wallet it will work with an Apple Watch, not just the phone?

It's occasionally annoying that I can't put a Tesla key on my Watch: I don't want to go running with my phone, for example.

(Tesla does allow you to add new drivers remotely, from the security section in the app).
Works really well on my watch (BMW)

I am always wearing my watch, I have a relatively large home. Walking two flights down and out to the garages to get something out of the car was painful when I would forget my key. No longer an issue... life is good
 
I have this on a BMW. It works great unless my wife is with me and then the car gets crazy and doesn’t know which driver is taking over.
 
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I have a Polestar 2, which has a digital key linked to their app. Based on how that performs I would NEVER EVER trust a digital car key for fear of being locked out of my car and stranded.
That and digital keys can be deleted from your device for any reason. At least with physical keys they need to be stolen from you.
 
Hey Ford & Lincoln, WYD?, ARE YOU SLEEPING ON THIS? Even Kia and Hyundai have models with Car Key since 2023.
 
All those billions spent on Apple Car research are really paying off

That's the piece that many critics of the Apple Car project overlook. It was more than just bringing us an Apple Car. It was a wealth of valuable research and development across the various facets of automobile technology that moves Apple's support for those forward. While it's a shame that the cancellation was portrayed as a "failure", in the end, it's was really an expensive research project that we'll benefit from for years to come.
 
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