I would think so - all part of the same group with lots of shared technology particularly around the infotainment and vehicle control systems. And Skoda, too.Hmmm, maybe if it comes to Audi it will eventually come to VW?
I would think so - all part of the same group with lots of shared technology particularly around the infotainment and vehicle control systems. And Skoda, too.Hmmm, maybe if it comes to Audi it will eventually come to VW?
VW, Audi and Skoda vehicles share a common chassis and other frameworks including telematics and control systems. Porsche are part of the group but don’t share technology. I wish they did, but alas…Because they are both a part of the same group? I mean, wouldn't Porsche get it first?![]()
I’ve never had a car key fob fail me. Can’t say the same for a cell phone.
And when I go to the gym, I need my gym fob so the car key is a good place for that. I don’t even take my phone to the gym. 4G watch and earphones wins out.
It will use UWB, so it should behave just like the Tesla and Lexus. I have been using the feature on Tesla as well, so not exactly a game changing feature, other than having the card available in the wallet app.I'm a bit confused. I've been using digital car keys in Lexus and Tesla vehicles for some years now. These cars even recognized the driver - my spouse also has digital keys. However, these keys don't show up on my wallet app. I just open the vehicle driver's door. Is this Apple implementation a different approach that requires users to hold the phone against a vehicle NFC reader?
I’ve never had a car key fob fail me. Can’t say the same for a cell phone.
coolThe way these "dumb" digital keys work allow you to use/unlock your vehicle by just opening the driver door (sure, the manufacturer app needs to be running in the background). Apple's implementation requires you to get your phone out and hold it against the vehicle NFC reader? if so the only advantage I could see is if it works when your phone is dead 🤷♂️
This article relates to what BMW/Mini currently has now. 2025 Mini Cooper is the same implementation as BMW. You use the Wallet app for your car key. So you can unlock/drive away using your iPhone/Wallet. Nothing to do with the Mini app. You can even grant remote access and drive permission to others.I am still trying to figure out how official Car Key support is different from the apps the car manufacturer's use. Was debating a 2025 Mini Cooper, which says I can use my phone to unlock and start my car, but no mention of it on Apple's site and it mentions a MINI app.
You seem to think that Porsche drivers are happy to give up the key fob that they rest on the bar counter?Because they are both a part of the same group? I mean, wouldn't Porsche get it first?![]()
I see. Well ok then. But I wouldn't expect it for a few years and only for the top models...VW, Audi and Skoda vehicles share a common chassis and other frameworks including telematics and control systems. Porsche are part of the group but don’t share technology. I wish they did, but alas…
They can still have their key fob. In fact — they make nice necklaces. I pity the fool!You seem to think that Porsche drivers are happy to give up the key fob that they rest on the bar counter?
You don’t have to open the app unless you want to unlock it remotely (ie: when you are not near the vehicle).
You just walk up the car with your phone in your pocket and it unlocks automatically. You sit in the driver’s seat and it drives. No other interaction required.
VW, Audi and Skoda vehicles share a common chassis and other frameworks including telematics and control systems. Porsche are part of the group but don’t share technology.
Technically Tesla didn't add phone key until 2018, but they only added UWB in 2021 with the Model S refresh.How about Tesla? Wait that was done 10+ years ago.
Uses nfc/wallet to unlock. Even if phone battery is dead. You can allow access and even drive permission to others remotely. It’s pretty cool.
But you can...Yawn. You cannot unlock a Tesla with the Apple Wallet. You can unlock it with the Tesla App but that’s not what this is.
That would be awesome if they added it. But with the current leadership, I don’t see it happening.Unless I'm mistaken, this feature enables the phone to work as a key even when it's dead. It's writing to the NFC chip on the phone (or maybe just pairing the chip to the car) so that the car can passively read it even if the phone is dead.
So this would reduce the need for Tesla's keycards (of course, the keycard is still nice for valet.)
Works really well on my watch (BMW)Another advantage of Apple's implementation, presumably, is that being in Wallet it will work with an Apple Watch, not just the phone?
It's occasionally annoying that I can't put a Tesla key on my Watch: I don't want to go running with my phone, for example.
(Tesla does allow you to add new drivers remotely, from the security section in the app).
That and digital keys can be deleted from your device for any reason. At least with physical keys they need to be stolen from you.I have a Polestar 2, which has a digital key linked to their app. Based on how that performs I would NEVER EVER trust a digital car key for fear of being locked out of my car and stranded.
All those billions spent on Apple Car research are really paying off