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Apple Removes Unofficial WikiLeaks Application From App Store [Updated]
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Thank goodness this was removed. There is no way you can be a true American and want to see these documents. Traitorous.
Third that. The amount of entitlement people feel without contribution is ridiculous. Freedom is not free and the price of admission is much less than the damage the "truth" could do.
Apparently Assange is complaining about leaks himself now
WikiLeaks' Assange complains he's victim of leaks
WikiLeaks' Assange complains he's victim of leaks
"When truth becomes treason then we're in trouble."
-Ron Paul
Anyone who is against wikileaks, watch the 2007 collateral damage video and see if it doesn't make you sick to your stomach. Killing civilians from a helicopter the whole time laughing and joking about it and then when they noticed that there were 2 little kids that were in the van that they just shot the *^%# out of any remorse? No just, "shouldn't bring your kids to a fight". The people in the van were just loading up the dead civilians that had been shot down by the helicopter. And then they cover it up. I'm not going to blindly trust our government, but you go ahead.
-Ron Paul
Anyone who is against wikileaks, watch the 2007 collateral damage video and see if it doesn't make you sick to your stomach. Killing civilians from a helicopter the whole time laughing and joking about it and then when they noticed that there were 2 little kids that were in the van that they just shot the *^%# out of any remorse? No just, "shouldn't bring your kids to a fight". The people in the van were just loading up the dead civilians that had been shot down by the helicopter. And then they cover it up. I'm not going to blindly trust our government, but you go ahead.
That its classified only applies to the original leaker, not to Wikileaks as they are just republishing the content.
There was a supreme court case back in the pentagon papers days, this is pretty much identical.
Commercial nuclear power plants have emergency sirens and community evacuation plans for a reason. (I have some knowledge of this, as I used to work for one, writing software related to Health Physics. "Health Physics" is a euphemism for "making sure employees don't glow".) Living near a nuclear facility puts one in danger - both from accidental leaks and as a target. People have a right to be informed in this regard, IMO.
Personally, I've always lived pretty much at ground zero, but at least I am informed. (I used to live in the shadow of the General Motors building - I suppose no longer a major target, LOL. And I now live across the bay from a couple of aircraft carriers and presumed missile launch locations).
Apple did the right thing. I cannot believe it was on there in the first place.
They didn't do it for the reasons you'd wish they did. Apple doesn't want to be caught in the middle of a charity fraud, and so they have a rule that you can't make a claim that proceeds go to charity.
Personally, I think the leaks are valuable to society as a whole because they are so routine. As such, they are probably most indicative of true policy. Giving the public insight into this is valuable. It gives us the ability to decide if our government is going in the direction we'd like it to.
Obviously, there is polar disagreement. But in order to even have the disagreement in the first place, you have to know the facts of actions and policies. Wikileaks has exposed them, fostering the debate that is ongoing now.
I also do not dismiss the possibility that they leaks were intentional on the part of the government and that they may not be completely true. There could be false information that the government wanted released with "credibility", or they may have simply wanted to dump all those mostly-boring cables for the "ho-hum" factor - to reinforce that they really aren't up to anything all that sinister.
Here is your answer ... if any soldier witnesses a war crime being committed ... it is their duty to report it to their commanding officer ... Not call up Wikileaks.
The US Military is not in the business of committing war crimes ... there is a case right now where a US soldier has been charged for killing an Iraqi family and raping one of their daughters. This POS deserves the death penalty in IMO.
Yeah, I agree with the posts here saying that a lot of these documents probably should NOT have been released. Disclaimer: I don't follow the WikiLeaks meme at all...I really know very little about it.
But, to suggest that any and all classified documents should be available for all to see freely is seriously messed up. Should documents describing our upcoming military endeavors be published? Secret locations where sought-after people may be hiding? Lists of all of US weapons storage locations? Do people out there seriously believe that sort of information should be freely available?
If so, I'm more scared for the future than I already was (mostly because of how entitled and dumb people are becoming).
But, to suggest that any and all classified documents should be available for all to see freely is seriously messed up. Should documents describing our upcoming military endeavors be published? Secret locations where sought-after people may be hiding? Lists of all of US weapons storage locations? Do people out there seriously believe that sort of information should be freely available?
If so, I'm more scared for the future than I already was (mostly because of how entitled and dumb people are becoming).
You must have failed reading comprehension. He's complaining about the TIMING of the leak.
Agreed.
It's sad when we start blaming the whistleblower. If people want to be mad at the guy/gal submitting these classified docs to wikileaks, then that's fine. But unless you have evidence wikileaks stole this information all they did is publish it. Thankfully our Constitution protects them.
Redirect your anger folks.
My reading comprehension is fine actually. I don't think he gets to pick and choose when someone leaks about him any more than others get to pick and choose when and how he leaks about them.
A moral free pass
Dick move on Apple's part. Wikileaks is an organization which deserves the full support of anyone who cares about freedom of speech and government transparency in the slightest.
I'm willing to bet Apple will be hearing from "Anonymous" soon.
-Don
I'm willing to bet Apple will be hearing from "Anonymous" soon.
-Don
Wish Apple Had More Backbone
The MSM (now officially known as the office of propoganda) is controlled by the same global financial cabal that is fighting hard to shut down Wikileaks. So I applaud Wikileaks for attempting to bring the real truth to light. They are the ONLY ones to stand up to the pirates who have hijacked the world.
And unless someone has the guts to stand beside them and help them get the truth out, they will fade. i was hoping Apple had the guts...
The MSM (now officially known as the office of propoganda) is controlled by the same global financial cabal that is fighting hard to shut down Wikileaks. So I applaud Wikileaks for attempting to bring the real truth to light. They are the ONLY ones to stand up to the pirates who have hijacked the world.
And unless someone has the guts to stand beside them and help them get the truth out, they will fade. i was hoping Apple had the guts...
The freedom to know what your government - which operates FOR YOU and WITH YOUR PERMISSION (as a member of the voting public) is doing ON YOUR BEHALF.
Consider it an audit by the public.
I don't think that having the public know the truth can ever set things back.
Much has happened in regard to freedom over the past 50 years or so, much of which I would never have expected. When I was a kid, I never expected that the Berlin Wall would come down, or that the former Soviet satellite nations would be freed.
Nor did I expect that George Orwell's predictions in 1984 (a book we studied in High School) would actually come true. What was a Science Fiction fantasy in 1970 is reality in England today. I was surprised that Orwell got the country right (of course, might have just been luck, as he was English and wrote of what he knew). I assumed that if it happened, it would be in the U.S., but then we experienced a surge of personal freedom in the U.S. while somewhere along the line the English apparently stopped caring so much about personal freedom.
Bravo.
Wikileaks rules!!!!!
And a big thumbs down to Apple.
Stay out of politics will ya.
Now, that's lame...
At the very least, they could state clearly what's the matter...
At the very least, they could state clearly what's the matter...
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shame on apple, probably due to US government pressure? and other US banks/institutions also suspending/freezing wikileaks.......
reminds me of apple moderators on "apple discussion forums" that are quick to delete posts one made criticizing apple..... happened to me 2x already
it's high time julian assange leaked the documents that allegedly will cause the end of 2 major US banks.... high time julian activates the deluge!
Pretty much everything the US Military DOES is a war crime under the definition in International Law. The unprovoked attack on the sovereign nation of Iraq resulted in deaths, which, by definition, makes the entire Iraq invasion and occupation a war crime. Why, oh why, do people defend the atrocities done in their name?
These soldiers probably had no clue what they were shooting at other than it was an objective. These brave men have children shooting at them with machines guns and RPG's all day long. Just like the people who served in Vietnam and where labelled child killers. Of course they were! They had children walking up to them with live grenades in there hands. War is war and collateral damage is a terrible but real thing. I'm not blindly trusting my government instead as an American I am proud to be able to say these things. If you don't like it try living under "The Great Leaders" rule.
Because the dictator who was running that nation was committing genocide while the entire world tucked their tails between their legs afraid of responses like yours. Most Iraqi's cheered when the United States rolled through Bahgdad. The sin we committed was once we did what we did we had no plan for the fallout. If you are so disgusted by your war criminal leaders you can give the neighbors to the south of you a shot at citizenship. Perspective.
Actually, as someone that works with the Government (but not for) I can correct this a little. A Classified document doe snot become declassified just because it is public. If a classified document reaches an "Unsecure network" that the Government has control/influence over, it is an issue. If a person with "Clarence" (of the top secret nature) obtains a document (even in public domain) that is beyond their clearance level it is an issue.
Now for the guessing bit: Even though a document remains top secret or with a certain clearance attached to it even after reaching public domain, does not mean that there are laws in place that make it a criminal activity to read/publish/obtain said material. In which case there is no law that wikileaks is breaking in the US.
However there are many networks inside many companies that are nervous about "Top secret" files getting onto their systems, because it can be a major PITA.