Why would Apple (or any other credit cards company) be associated with Wikileaks in any way?
There's ton of magazines/newspapers apps in the Appstore. Does it mean all of those apps contents is endorsed by Apple? I don't think so...
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Why would Apple (or any other credit cards company) be associated with Wikileaks in any way?
There's ton of magazines/newspapers apps in the Appstore. Does it mean all of those apps contents is endorsed by Apple? I don't think so...
You sound exactly like the insurgents the US Military is facing everyday.
Saddam would be proud ... I for one am very much against Anti-Americanism.
Distribution of Classified material is not a good thing to be associated with.
And a citizen to boot. Try saying what you said in China. Youd be sharing a cell with the Tiananmen Square Tank guy.
Those "brave men" are nothing more than murders, who should get a taste of their own medicine. And I say that as someone who has multiple family members in the military. I'm not saying all soldiers are murdering thugs, but these ones are for sure. They aren't "brave men" they are cowards.
Remember that we didn't go into Iraq to save the people of Iraq, we went into Iraq because of the WMDs that never existed. Your explanation is the same explanation that all the war supporters flocked to after it became evident that there were no WMDs, and I say that as a former war supporter who used a defense virtually identical to the one you posted.
-Don
I get it, but then the whole Web and every news channel around the world is guilty for distributing "classified material"?
I, personally, will never held a newspaper responsible for Iran nuclear prospection or North Korea power trip... But that's just me...
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It's the fact the maker advertised it was going to charity - makes a headache if Apple allows it because then they have to verify it.
"whole" and "hole" are different, unless you're trying to say this situation one big pit.A wikileaks app is fine, would be weird if there was nothing about wikileaks at all in the app store.
A wikileaks app that cost money for looking into the cables is just so low.
A real shame by the developer and I hope his app never gets thru.
Just sick that he want money out this hole situation.
By the way big support to wikileaks and all its followers.
And wow, someone made an interface to read data, formatted it for a specific purpose, and wants compensation for it - I say they're entitled to it. As long as they don't claim credit for the /content/. It's how the paid twitter, etc. apps work, after all.
"You'd think since [the cops] did such a poor act of keeping the citizen safe, they could of at least helped the killer clean up his tracks before anyone found it!" - Yes a non-perfect analogy, but there isn't always one.
And in the end, people are almost always the weakest link in any attempt to keep info secure - can't be helped. Maybe you should also require the parent(s) and/or family of the one who leaked to help clean up the info first?
Leaking corruption in governement is one thing, leaking to leak like Wiki-leaks now seems to is corruption of it's own. The right to an action does not make that action the right thing to do.
If anyone gets hurt or injured by anything other than their own incompentence/stupidity (in other words, they didn't do anything wrong/immoral) due to this info being leaked, then Wikileaks is responsible as it made itself part of the transmission of the info. Info it did not have to release.
Yes, it is. Most of us here, and elsewhere, that I've seen against WL isn't against them leaking war crimes issues/corruption, but rather info that was classified to keep others safe. If you think people who were willing to crash planes into New York, or support/cheer those who did, wouldn't take out a whole village to make an example out of them, I think you're mistaken.
Please show me where someone is against this bit of info being leaked.
Having a right doesn't make exercising it right.
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So you're saying that U.S. helicopters being used to murder innocent civilians and Reuters reporters in Afghanistan, just for fun, is neccesary for you to enjoy your way of life? And revealing that would endanger the lives of dozens? What about those people that actually were killed, using your tax money? they were a lot more than just a dozen.
That's what I though first but if that's the case (which I doubt), then he (or Wikileaks) should release it free. That would stop all the suspiciousness.
I strongly disagree. And AFAIK Obama has done nothing in respect to the ICC in The Hague. Funny that the U.S. refers to itself as the only institution defining who's right and who's wrong.
http://www.hrw.org/legacy/campaigns/icc/us.htm
Colin Powell is one of the guys who should sit in that court defending the manipulation of facts considering the WMD-threat in Iraq.
How is Wikileaks immoral? The pentagon papers were leaked...
Source of any genocide conducted after 1990?
Let me see you go defend your abilities to say these comments... oh wait you can't. You are just another keyboard soldier who talks a big game.
OMG, OMG!
Does that means MR now support Wikileaks (or is associated with it in any ways)... Damn!
Well... since the American Government announced Wikileaks a terrorist organisation, it's illegal to have any involvement with it. Apple has no choice, just like PayPal, MasterCard and the many others.
Just....
I just heard the US Government has a place ready in Guantanamo for Julian...
Because thats exactly what they intended to do. They took off to go shoot and kill anyone and anything that moved for a good time.
This is why "leaked" documents are worthless because you get one piece of a large puzzle.
Yep, that's a fun one to watch people bring up. The last time Sadam was busy with anything that could be remotely described as genocide, the *U.S. government* was busy helping him by supplying him with the equipment to do so.
If I may step in and answer this one:
They made public, and actively publicized the release of a large quantity of documents that no one intended to see the light of day. Perhaps illegal acts are documented, perhaps civilians safety is compromised, but I see no evidence that wikileaks gives a flying frack which it is.
Everything being public would not be a good thing. We (or most) have an intelligent brain, and use it to consciously share information in particular circumstances, at particular times, with particular people. I would not want the would to know EVERYTHING about me, or everything I've written down. What is in those documents is the equivalent to reading the Governments diaries. You might find a few juicy bits of information that the public should be concerned with and address, but for the most part it's just dangerous information that the entire world now has, not just the American public. Making all information public is not a good idea for the individual, a working group, or a corporation. I don't know why anyone thinks a government is different, since it is made up of the previous groups.
And I don't care about how they "tried" to work with the government to censor it. Because after that "effort" they went on to do NOTHING. Exactly how many hours, days, or week of work is a single human life worth? By releasing every LAST page, wikileaks has determined that it's not even worth a minute of their time to minimize the risk of human life being lost. That to me raises huge ethical questions and strikes me as immoral. It may not break any laws, but that doesn't mean it's "right".
Just MHO...
I'm not a fan of allowing our government to kill innocent people and sweep it under the carpet.
It makes us just as immoral as the people who attacked us in the first place.
War does nothing but strengthen your enemies in the long run. Compassion and empathy end conflict.
A fire is put out with water, not gasoline.
Maybe in a fantasy land. Not in the real world. The biggest guns and the loudest voice ends conflicts. Thats human nature for you. Its in our nature to destroy ourselves and anything that stands in our way.
Does it have to be all or nothing? What wikileaks did is equivalent to tossing the baby out with the bathwater. No critical thinking or analysis was applied to the content.
While I believe that war is not always the answer, and peace is the more ethical path, I would disagree that war does nothing. It has actually been shown to quite effectively silence enemies in the short and long run
Actually, you can put out a file with gasoline, and water doesn't put out all fires. It's a fun analogy, but to anyone with a grasp of science falls rather short of the complicated geopolitical set of events and conditions that usually leads to war. Not to mention slightly inaccurate
I understand the concept of classifying certain things for reasons of national security (note: real national security, ie. the locations of our missile silos) but the US government clearly abuses it by lumping in things that aren't really dangerous but merely embarrassing for them. Just because they classify something "secret" or above doesn't mean the contents really are secret for our own protection. Remember that the people assigning these classifications are human beings. Biased, corruptible, just like anyone else. We need to start holding these people accountable and force them to use the system how it should properly be used.