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Apple Reportedly Planning to Limit iPhone 15's USB-C Port in the Same Way as Lightning
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Any connector can collect debris. The phone changing to USB-C won't change anything in that regard. As to you cleaning out the port, if you damage the port doing it that's not the manufacturers fault. USB-C has tighter spacing and far more pins so you'd be even more likely to damage it compared to lightning.
AND lightning is a female connector at the phone end, while USB-C is a male, which makes it less robust and more prone to collect debris.
But, since this is water under the bridge now that the transition to USB-C by the whole world is ongoing, I'm also not buying any other device with lightning.
I’m not blaming the manufacturer for damaging the port, I am blaming the manufacture for not allowing me to have it fixed anywhere and wanting to charge me $790 to put in a $.35 part. That’s when I started becoming not an apple fan boy anymore, that’s the kind of **** that causes people to make bigger decisions. It’s bad business, regardless of what industry you are in.
Like I said earlier, go look at the specs from USB-IF for the USB Type C connector. It's such a mess that Apple creating some sort of MFi program for the iPhone 15/15 Pro USB Typc C connector might actually be a GOOD thing.
Yet, my iPad and MacBook Pro both have USB-C ports that have been completely trouble free.. and both of those pieces of gear have accompanied me to the field numerous times.
I really wonder will the EU and US DoJ object to Apple's idea. Apple may have to drop the MFi requirement and just make the USB Type C connector conform to the most common USB-IF specs (Power Delivery 3.0 for charging, 5 Gbps Certified speed for the iPhone 15, and 20 Gbps Certified for the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max).
I would hope. It‘s hilarious to hear a giant corporation bemoaning government mandates.. corporations in this country much prefer mandating **** to the government and purchasing politicians. Boo-hoo..
As long as the phone is compliant Apple can do what they want with the cable. The EU reg only mandates power specs and connector; nothing about data.
The EU regs have nothing to do with data speed so as long as the iPhone charges with non-MFI cables Apple is following the rules.
I think to avoid further possible litigation from the EU, Apple will likely support Certified 5Gbps data connection speeds on the iPhone 15/15 Plus and Certified 20 Gbps data connection speeds on the iPhone 15 Pro/15 Pro Max per USB-IF specs. Supporting USB-IF Power Delivery 3.0 spec is obvious.
Whatever the speed are I think the Pro Phones will have faster data than the regular Phones, just like the M1 iPads have faster data than the iPad 10.I think to avoid further possible litigation from the EU, Apple will likely support Certified 5Gbps data connection speeds on the iPhone 15/15 Plus and Certified 20 Gbps data connection speeds on the iPhone 15 Pro/15 Pro Max per USB-IF specs. Supporting USB-IF Power Delivery 3.0 spec is obvious.
It appears that's Apple's intention. It will likely be USB 3.2 Gen 1x1 (5 Gbps) for the iPhone 15/15 Plus and USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (20 Gbps) for the iPhone 15 Pro/15 Pro Max.
im thinking about getting a new s23 ultra, or a fold! they are far superior and I can live with android on my phone!
Yes but if this rumour is true, then you wont be able to use a non-Apple certified cable with the iPhone. Defeats the object of the exercise.
Why wouldn’t you be able to use a non-Apple certified cable?
You would be able to use a non-Apple certified cable but it might be at slower speeds.
When I had iPhones, if I tried to use a non MFI cable to charge I would get a message saying that it is a non Apple cable and wont work (words to that effect).
The EU directive allows additional features as long as they don't interfere with the mandated ones. I read that as Apple or any manufacturer can do what they want with data, special charging features beyond that in the requirements as any cable that is compliant with the spec works without interference.
I'm not sure what sort of special charging feature Apple could do, but data is another story.
That might be the case with lightning but it can’t be with USBC, except for functionality beyond the required specification.
And I also heard that the EU already warned that if any company limits the functionality of the USB-C cable on its devices, as Apple has been rumored to be planning to do on iphones, they’ll be banned from selling those devices in the EU.
Only for functionality that is included in the regulation. Functionality outside of the regulations can be locked behind specific cables.
