Just went to check Japan prices. Still quite a deal if one can get a VAT refund from the likes of Bic. Tempting me to make a trip lol.
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Apple Responds to Huawei Threat by Slashing iPhone 15 Prices in China
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Just went to check Japan prices. Still quite a deal if one can get a VAT refund from the likes of Bic. Tempting me to make a trip lol.
I think this challenge is more than price point in this arena Apple.
Historically iPhones has been a bit of a status symbol in China (I'm sure elsewhere as well). With the design mostly staying the same it's not as obvious that you got the latest phone. Also, the top-of-the-line Chinese phones are quite good now and less and less people buy into 'foreign is better'. Similar trend in the car market.
The average consumer in China is also a lot less likely to be deep in the Apple ecosystem. People would generally only have the iPhone as their only Apple device and its super easy to switch to Android since people do nearly everything on just one app (WeChat).
Anyway, I'd be tempted to buy something like the Huawei Pura 70 or the Honor Magic V2 if I wasn't so deep in the Apple ecosystem. You see some really nifty stuff in the Chinese phones.
The average consumer in China is also a lot less likely to be deep in the Apple ecosystem. People would generally only have the iPhone as their only Apple device and its super easy to switch to Android since people do nearly everything on just one app (WeChat).
Anyway, I'd be tempted to buy something like the Huawei Pura 70 or the Honor Magic V2 if I wasn't so deep in the Apple ecosystem. You see some really nifty stuff in the Chinese phones.
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Using your competitor's product actually seems smart to me, optics aside. You can see what you can improve in your product if it does something better. Or pinpoint the flaws it has and target that in marketing, etc.
I bet it is common for execs to use competing products, though normally in private and without the public knowing about it since the optics are indeed bad.
Every single person I know outside of internet fan forums is thoroughly disillusioned with Apple. I see this sort of panic discounting becoming a wider trend as more people start to step away from the credit card. In my estimation if Apple doesn't rehire some decent designers and stop treating lifetime customers like cash machines then the goose is cooked. Too big to fail? More like the bigger they are the harder they fall.
“with strong competition from Huawei's latest high-end series of Pura 70 phones said to be partly behind the most recent drop in sales.”
Apple literally denied this in the last quarter report and said iPhone sales have increased in mainland China.
Apple literally denied this in the last quarter report and said iPhone sales have increased in mainland China.
Good. I don't understand why iPhone should cost more in China where they manufacture than in US. Apple did believe that they can keep on increase the price and people would buy without considering alternatives. In China, it's not important if it is Android or iOS. For them, WeChat is everything. So, even after all the restrictions US made against Huawei, they have succeeded in making own HW and SW. And Chinese are patriotic than any other people in the world.
Perhaps it's time for Apple to slash prices in EU too.
Perhaps it's time for Apple to slash prices in EU too.
Apple products are banned from any Chinese government department or agency and it's generally not considered the done thing to own American products in China anymore. Hence the slide in sales.
While $636 is correct, the $1199 is not. It is $1099.
And that is with VAT and Import Tax in China. The actual wholesale price Apple is doing is probably lowest anywhere in the world.
And I have been saying this for quite some time, most of the world are subsidsing iPhone sold in China.
Isn’t that called anti-dumping?. Kind of a dirty move when you sell cheaper than in your own market?.
I feel betrayed because Apple never gives discounts in my country!.
iPhones have stopped innovating since forever, who wants and old-new phone when in that market with real competitors you v an find much more advanced phones?
I feel betrayed because Apple never gives discounts in my country!.
iPhones have stopped innovating since forever, who wants and old-new phone when in that market with real competitors you v an find much more advanced phones?
Apple got them banned in the US and now karma is coming home to roost.
Chinese phones are lightyears ahead of anything apple is pumping out.
Tim is hoping you'll be too lazy to leave the "ecosystem" and Americans too scared to leave iMessage.
Honestly think Jeff Williams is sitting at his desk laughing at the fact he's approving the same design 6 years on the trot and sheep keep buying it with no real "smart" features.
Chinese phones are lightyears ahead of anything apple is pumping out.
Tim is hoping you'll be too lazy to leave the "ecosystem" and Americans too scared to leave iMessage.
Honestly think Jeff Williams is sitting at his desk laughing at the fact he's approving the same design 6 years on the trot and sheep keep buying it with no real "smart" features.
Then why are they slashing prices?
That's what I always say. Grateful to see someone thinking the same thing
Apple troubles have a lot more to do with trading and protectionist policies than being a reflection of what consumers actually want to buy. Kind of like what is happening with EVs in the US now. Apple is a great example of a "US company" in Chinese market and therefore has to be a part of the international trade tit-for-tat.
Apple should be slashing prices mid-cycle everywhere anyway. Which ducking company doesn’t reduce prices of their products, even by a cent, until hours before a new model is unveiled.
One with way too much hubris and ego
I would go further in saying that "when Apple cuts prices, it's an indication that all companies are suffering".
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One who can... and even have their fans arguing FOR such policies & practices against other consumers who dare to question them. When consumers put seller interests above their own, the most core element of Capitalism is broken. The game is a simple one:
- Seller tries to get as much as they can for whatever they are selling.
- Buyer tries to get as much value as they can for the least price.
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Streaming prices will not go down because the service providers all want to become profitable. It's not about subscriber growth at any cost anymore.
Just look to cable tv as evidence that prices do not come down when people vote with their wallet. Millions of people each year are cutting the cable tv cord. This has been happening for over a decade now and yet cable tv prices keep going up, not down.
in Brazil, Apple prices were always abusive, but the main competitor is Samsung.
Apple doesn't cut it's prices in their stores, but official retailers are pricing the iPhone 15 same or lower as the Galaxy S24.
The tides are turning
Apple doesn't cut it's prices in their stores, but official retailers are pricing the iPhone 15 same or lower as the Galaxy S24.
The tides are turning
You're 100% right.
They're raising the prices because they never made money, and also they learned that they can earn more if you pay and watch ads. So they raise the prices even higher on the ad-free versions to compensate for the lack of ad revenue.
I've read somewhere (can't remember and can't prove it, take with a grain of salt) that they earn more with lower tiers with ads than with the higher ones.
Amazon France has had lower prices than the official French Apple Store for years. Other offical resellers also lower prices regularly. I never buy directly from Apple, except only when I need a new Mac and I need to configure it.