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This story proving yet again that “Apple analyst” is the easiest job in the world 😅
 
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Polished like Siri is polished?!!

What are you even talking about...
I don’t recall making a comparison to Siri.

There are a lot of questions re: how to ethically and effectively integrate generative AI technology into our lives. I don’t really want my personal phone and computer to be the guinea pig; so, I’m okay with Apple taking their time on this.
 
By iOS 18 it's too late.
Also a big mess up by apple who have had Siri data for years and not using that massive database of information to start testing something
 
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Despite Apple having a reputation of being late to the party... they also have a reputation for redefining spaces in tech...

So I think when they do release this... you can be pretty certain they will make a good effort and get most of it right... plus their Neural Engine hardware is amongst the best.

Plus, I trust them on privacy way more than Google.
I think AI is a different kettle of fish. It klearns best when it has as braod an input as possible. The stance that Apple appears to take with on device processing/privacy will surely hold them back.
Personally I think we have to give up some degree of privacy up to get what we want. Lots seem to say "Oh no I'll immediately switch all that data mining off, which is fine for them, and it works becaisue luckily for them others leave their personal info up for grabs. They system learns more becasue it has access to demographics and it benefits them.
 
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Apple plans to start implementing generative AI technology on the iPhone and iPad in late 2024 at the earliest, according to Jeff Pu, an analyst who covers Apple's supply chain for Hong Kong-based investment firm Haitong International Securities.

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In a research note on Wednesday, Pu said his supply chain checks suggest that Apple is likely to build a few hundred AI servers in 2023, and significantly more next year. He believes Apple will offer a combination of cloud-based AI and so-called "edge AI," which involves more on-device data processing. He added that patience will be required with Apple's rollout of generative AI, as the company considers how to use and process personal data in a way that aligns with its commitment to customer privacy.

If met, the late 2024 timeframe would mean that Apple could begin rolling out generative AI features starting with iOS 18 and iPadOS 18, but it remains to be seen how it uses the technology. The Information last month reported that Apple plans to incorporate large language models into Siri to let users automate complex tasks, a feature that would involve deeper integration with the Shortcuts app. The report said this feature is expected to be released in an iPhone software update next year, so it could be part of iOS 18.

In August, supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple's generative AI efforts were "significantly behind its competitors," so it's unclear if the late 2024 timeframe is realistic. It is possible the technology will not be ready until 2025 and onwards.

Generative AI surged in popularity last year when OpenAI released ChatGPT, a chatbot that can respond to questions and other prompts. Google and Microsoft released similar chatbots earlier this year, as more companies race into the space. The chatbots are trained on large language models, allowing them to respond like a human.

In July, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said Apple was internally testing a "ChatGPT-like" chatbot nicknamed "Apple GPT," but he said the company had yet to "devise a clear strategy" for releasing generative AI tools to the public.

Apple has publicly confirmed its interest in generative AI, and it has mentioned the technology in job listings posted on its website in recent months.

"We've been working on generative AI for years and have done a lot of research," said Apple CEO Tim Cook, in an interview with Forbes last month. "And we're going to approach it really thoughtfully and think about it deeply, because we're fully aware of the not-good uses that it can have, and the issues around bias and hallucination and so forth."

Article Link: Apple Rumored to Follow ChatGPT With Generative AI Features on iPhone as Soon as iOS 18
They need to do something, otherwise all kids will want Google phones. Glad to see they are taking a thoughtful approach, rather then the gun ho approach by google
 
Siri for the regular people, and Siri+ for anyone with a $0.99-or-more iCloud subscription, and then SiriGPT+ Pro Ultra for anyone who's willing to shell out 10+ bucks a month for something that can compete with GPT4? 🤔 I can already imagine Tim rubbing his hands and cackling at the thought of how much money Apple will rake in. :p
If people want machines to think for them, then they should pay for it!
The servers & infrastructure needed doesn't fall from heaven and doesn't run on fresh air!
 
Looking forward to their AI offering, but not hopeful. A long ways back they said that their goal was for Apple Maps to be the best mapping system out there. That never happened. It's beautiful and lovely in select places, but they still haven't been able to compete with Google Maps / Waze on data accuracy and live reporting since they fundamentally handle data differently.

Siri has seemingly only gotten worse as Google hasn't gotten far better. While I'd love advanced AI from Siri, it still every day fails at basic commands. Alexa for instance does great at the basics but limited when handling more. Hoped Apple would focus on nailing down the basics 100% since otherwise the hard stuff seems impossible. Yes, maybe Generative AI will somehow kill two birds with one stone but I for what think it won't Siri will hopefully get better and more capable but will be far worse than Google just like how Google is quite worse than ChatGPT since ChatGPT went under the radar and was built on a lot of data that no longer would be allowed since all eyes are on that space.
 
Have you guys tried the new chatGPT voice assistant mode with the iphone 15s action button? This is truly mindblowing. It this could access the web and smart home devices and was a bit faster to respond, this is it. This is the startrek computer we've been waiting for!!

Just gave this a go and I love it, finally a decent conversation with an AI at the push of a button. Apple has a hell of a lot of catching up to do as this is light years ahead of Siri as it is.
 
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Despite Apple having a reputation of being late to the party... they also have a reputation for redefining spaces in tech...

So I think when they do release this... you can be pretty certain they will make a good effort and get most of it right... plus their Neural Engine hardware is amongst the best.

Plus, I trust them on privacy way more than Google.
OpenAI has already brought the revolution to market with GPT 3.5 and now 4.

Apple missed the boat.

They can’t even claim being late to the party for the sake of privacy after they were caught listening to Siri recordings without direct user consent via an opt in or opt out.

Ouch
 
Given some of those cray stories people trained AI with personality, I wonder what kind of personality people will give to their own generative AI. Maybe personal virtual waifu/husbando even, with custom portrait?

One can dream.
I can’t imagine Apple letting users customize the personality of their AI Assistants.
It would be more likely that we all end up with an AI with Tim Cook’s personality. o_O
 
The fact that Siri has had virtually zero iterative updates tells me they’re working on a completely separate and new AI assistant, as opposed to improving their existing moron offering.

Apple is not known to hurry; they take their time and get it right.

I have no doubt their implementation of an AI assistant will be spectacular for average consumers (not likely for business), when it’s eventually ready.

The question is: How many people will have already left by then, having moved-on to other ecosystems that have AI assistants now? And we all know how difficult it is to get out once you’re entrenched in ecosystem…

(Re-post from another thread)
 
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