Thanks, wasn't talk to you.Move on.The title of the story (thread) here is Apple Stores Now Stock 14-Inch M3 MacBook Pro With 16GB of RAM
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Apple Stores Now Stock 14-Inch M3 MacBook Pro With 16GB of RAM
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Didn't you know that before you bought a 16 GB machine for coding/development?
I personally think 16 GB should be the minimum spec for the Macbook Pro. At the current base price of the 8 GB model. Especially since these machines are not easily upgradable.
Nobody disputes that it is possible to consume RAM. I am not sure what the point you're trying to make is.
Mac computers are known for its longevity, I still use my 2018 MBA regularly (six years later), it still performs well for everyday tasks.
So I wonder, have you used AS machines? try a 3 year old M1 8GB Mac, they fly.
Then again people don't throw away Macs in the trash, they either resell them or they pass it along to friends and family with lesser computing needs.
We know what landfills are full of, cheap Windows laptops with upgradable RAM and HDD that never got any type of upgrade but were broken and unusable after 4 years.
That's what I worry about. The base Mac Studio along with the prior base 14" MacBook Pro were the absolute best values ever. It was easy. Now it's a mess I don't even want to dive into.
I have an Apple MacBook Pro 13" Space Gray with the M1 chip (16 GB of RAM) and I am contemplating trading it in for one of the new M3 MacBook Air. Would Apple give me a good trade-in amount? Or should I go with Decluttr? TIA.
EDIT: 16 GB of RAM, not storage.
EDIT: 16 GB of RAM, not storage.
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This. This drove me crazy.
I couldn’t believe they put such a slow HDD in them. They were full sized 3.5” HDDs, too; it’s not like a 7200RPM HDD cost them much of any thing more on their BOM. It was an obvious cash grab to almost force their expensive SSD option at the time.
Hell, even their “Fusion Drive” Was 95% 5400RPM HDD.
End-users that didn’t know, ended up having to replace those almost unusable machines after just a few years of macOS releases.
Main reason why I sold my organs (metaphorically speaking) to spec my mac studio with 128GB of Ram.
I had to sacrifice the 64-Core GPU, but I feel the tradeoff was worth it.
Find out the trade in value at https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in and compare it to Decluttr and others.
Apple says they'll give up to $550 for MacBook Air trade in, but you have to enter your Mac's serial number to get exact amount.
I tend to agree. One of the things that really worries me about the small amount of RAM offered on entry level Macs is the problem caused by excessive swapping and the effect on SSD life. Not much discussed but apart from the lag caused by disc swapping (albeit reduced by using a unified memory/ssd design), the issue also causes SSDs to wear out as they have a finite read/write life. So all those 8GB machines are going to suffer from SSD issues as they get older. I have not done the work to calculate the effect but it is not going to be insignificant. Older 8GB machines are going to have serious issues with SSD performance due to the excessive disc swapping taking place. And those SSDs are not replaceable. Another reason to avoid machines with 8GB RAM.
The RAM and SSD upgrade prices make buying a brand-new machine from Apple silly. Unless you absolutely need it or have money to burn. Best to wait for 3rd party sales toward the end of each model's life. It's a shame, as buying direct from Apple is a nice experience.
Look it up, both sites post trade in values on their website plain as day.
No idea how heavy Xcode is, but I don't have any lag with the following running on a maccMini M1 and a MBA M2, both with 8/256
Safari couple of tabs
Opera
Firefox
Spotify
Messages
Calendar
Notes
Photos
Maps
MS Excel
TextEdit
rubiTrack Pro
And no lag whatsoever. Usually keep machines for about 5 years, no idea if the SSD gets worn out. For any 'heavy stuff' I fire up the MP (64 RAM).
Maybe 2024 is the year that 8MB configuration would finally be replaced by 16GB. 256GB x2 striped? Maybe not, as it would a disincentive for iCloud sales.
I love you Apple, but a Pro (creative / workstation machine) can not be offered with 8 GB RAM. 16 GB RAM must be the minimum.
This is the base M3 model that replaced the remaining the 13” MBP with the touchbar, the 14” M3 Pro MBP starts with 16GB but the 14” M3 MBP starts at 8
I previously worked at a Mac dealer which would order BTO models to sell. It was quite a long time ago and this may have changed since I worked there (doubtful, given Apple's aggressive push to promote their own stores).
The problem with stocking BTO models for third-party dealers is that Apple does not offer any returns or price protection on BTOs, and they only price in about a 15% profit margin (again, that was years ago, it is probably lower than that now). I'm sure that the terms for larger retailers like Best Buy and Costco are probably more forgiving, but for smaller specialty shops, BTO is far too risky to stock because even a couple of floor models not selling essentially erases all the profit from offering the BTOs in the first place. At the store I worked at (which, yes, is still in business), we basically only offered BTO models as special-order with prepayment for that very reason. We were strongly encouraged not to offer BTOs for sale at all as it was a hassle across the board for everyone.
Microsoft already do. Most of the major developments of their MS 365 products (including Office stalwarts like Excel, Outlook, Word, etc.) are being done in the web versions of those products. "New" Outlook is pretty much the web version. Excel and Word are being improved constantly and the web versions will eventually reach feature parity with the desktop versions. All new O365 products and re-writes of existing products (Loop, Teams, Project) are already pretty much web products. All of their Dynamics products that are not being sunset (ie, CRM, NAV, AX) have been re-designed as web products (Dynamics 365 Business Central, Sales, Finance, Operations).
I can see a fairly near future where all of Microsoft's software, aside from some legacy desktop apps which aren't really expected to be modernized (ie, Dynamics GP, Access, etc.) will all be web-based and OS-agnostic.
Not everyone knows everything about their future requirements at the time they are buying a computer. On top of that, Apple's own messaging suggests that 8GB should be "equivalent" to 16GB in the Wintel world. It's pretty unhelpful to dismiss someone with a "you should have known" attitude when they make a purchase decision based on the information provided to them by the vendor only to find out that the vendor isn't being completely honest with them.
16GB should have been the minimum spec for anything labelled as "Pro" for at least five years now.
Had that same thought watching a @dosdude1 video of extensive "surgery" on an M1 Mac Mini just to upgrade the SSD, which is a component that should be socketed and use NVMe and be user accessible.
SSDs and Batteries are parts that should be considered consumables and should be user-replacable. Yet another area where the EU is probably going to be ahead of the rest of the world on forcing companies' hands to return device ownership back to device owners.