That point was in the beginning, and really even before from other threads. Not sure why people have been keeping it afloat.The AirPods are a major product? Good grief. I'm at the point where I've had it with this thread.It needs to die.
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I was keeping it alive in the hopes the OP would become more civilized and understand the idea of an opinion vs. fact. Clearly that has failed. Even though I did successful make my point because the OP refused to respond to my facts disproving his 'facts'.
But I am officially over it.
This has been a common thread popping up since before internet forums (on bulletin board services) yet here we are.....
Looking at Apples net income over the last few years I can't see them being done next year if YOU don't think the iPhone 8 delivers
I thought the "Apple is doomed" posts were supposed to end 5 years ago? Are people still writing them?
https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/apple-inc-and-tech-industry.8/ section gets a few essentially same ones every few days or so.
Only thing more profitable then Apple stock would be getting money every time someone claimed they were doomed.
I think the notorious iPod thread here in the forums (the archives essentially) is the "poster-child" for that, and that was well over a decade ago.Only thing more profitable then Apple stock would be getting money every time someone claimed they were doomed.
You're not impressed with the iPhone 7, yet you own one and mentioned in other posts how you actually like it. Again, with your distorted contradictions on every thread.
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Yes i like my iPhone 7 as much i like my iPhone 6s plus, the size is so pocket friendly and handy, but not the iPhone 7 Plus which is not a upgrade from iPhone 6s Plus
Glad to have all display sizes so i don't miss anything
This is what I'd like from Apple:
1) Put your billions where your mouths are, Part 1) Quality Control. Rigorously test your hardware AND software before releasing them. Slow down. Another 6 months could mean more sales and very happy customers. Part 2) Use better internals and lower the price of RAM/SSD/Processor upgrades.
2) Focus on product first. Political and fashion agendas second. If you make great products the people and your almighty dollars will come.
3) Rethink acquisitions and pour those billions in R&D. Apple is so unfocused now because they want to be everything to everybody.
4) Do not neglect the Mac.
5) Can Schiller please. Almost every time this man opens his mouth he really puts his rose gold plated foot in it.
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As long as Apple does right by me and their products work, I will stick around.
I just upgraded to 7+ because I got a good discount and my 6s was problematic. I may drool over some Macs and post wishful thinking here, but I would lying if I didn't say that Microsoft's Surface Studio is a machine I will watch very closely going forward.
1) Put your billions where your mouths are, Part 1) Quality Control. Rigorously test your hardware AND software before releasing them. Slow down. Another 6 months could mean more sales and very happy customers. Part 2) Use better internals and lower the price of RAM/SSD/Processor upgrades.
2) Focus on product first. Political and fashion agendas second. If you make great products the people and your almighty dollars will come.
3) Rethink acquisitions and pour those billions in R&D. Apple is so unfocused now because they want to be everything to everybody.
4) Do not neglect the Mac.
5) Can Schiller please. Almost every time this man opens his mouth he really puts his rose gold plated foot in it.
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As long as Apple does right by me and their products work, I will stick around.
I just upgraded to 7+ because I got a good discount and my 6s was problematic. I may drool over some Macs and post wishful thinking here, but I would lying if I didn't say that Microsoft's Surface Studio is a machine I will watch very closely going forward.
Baby rats, must be in cotton diapers. Yeah diapers used to be made from cotton for all those disposable diaper users. You washed em and used em over and over.
Not one good product in their lineup?
So you're saying the iPhone 7 is not good? Ergo, either it's worse than the 6s, or the 6s itself is no good.
So you're saying the iPhone 7 is not good? Ergo, either it's worse than the 6s, or the 6s itself is no good.
Wrong. His opinion matters regardless if purchasing or not. And you have many holes in your thread and previous posts. Previously, You stated you don't believe in 'Prognosticating' the Airpods and yet here you are doing it. Which leads me to believe you have zero theory and knowledge of what you're spewing.
How can a product possibly contribute to Apple's downfall, if it hasn't released yet? Again, misusing the term 'Prognosticate'.
@freepomme quote: "And I'm going to cite the Airpods as one of the major products that contributed to Apple's downfall."
Again, a failed ideation of 'Prognosticate', misusing a past tense word with 'Contributed.' Nothing can be contributed, if it hasn't happened yet.
I suggest you revisit the term prognosticate if you intend on making any "Future" predictions.
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Apple2016 is a very different company from Apple2011. And a lot of that has to do with Steve Jobs.
I remember having heated debates with friends about how important Steve Jobs was to the "process". I would argue that he was, given the historical evidence of the time he was with the company and what happened after he left. They usually argued that he was an ego maniacal tyrant who intimidated employees, and that most of the decision making was handled by the people who reported to him. When Steve passed away, I hoped.... I wished, I would be proven wrong. That has not happened.
Let's get one thing straight. *No one* could have filled Jobs' shoes at Apple. I am not a fan of Cook as CEO, but that begs the question..... is there someone who could do a better job? (I dont know the answer to that)
Over the past five years we have witnessed the transformation of the management style at Apple. Adversarial to collaborative. The marketing has shifted from geek-appeal to to hip-and-cool. The product strategy seems to have shifted from visionary to market research.
When Apple dropped the floppy drive, ADB ports, optical drive, Flash, there was a person who managed to convince us it was for the right reasons. Now with the migration to ThunderBolt3, I *know* it's for all the right reasons, but I don't see anyone at the company making that case.
Remember in the early 2000s when people would say the PC is dead? Jobs gave us the "digital hub" strategy instead of letting the Mac(and PC) languish(Today iMovie, iTunes and Photos are a mess to use). Is there anyone at Apple today who can see the next age of the PC? Or are they willing to let it languish, and chase after what market research tells them is "hip"(wearable, cars, etc)?
MacOS is severely bloated and is on a downward trajectory(performance, UI, etc), WindowsX is better(performance) that its predecessors and is generally on an upward trajectory(from what I've seen; havent used it). iOS is stale, and hasn't seen much innovation in the past 4-5 years. Software is the "secret sauce" which Apple seems to have forgotten.
I guess we, the Mac faithful, who stuck with the company through thick n thin, see that the company is focused on others these days, which is probably why we dont like the direction the company has been taking. Strangely enough, the company has been making record revenue and profits.
@Michael Scrip
I think Larry Ellison said it best in the original iMac marketing video, "Apple is a company people care about" (paraphrase).
I remember having heated debates with friends about how important Steve Jobs was to the "process". I would argue that he was, given the historical evidence of the time he was with the company and what happened after he left. They usually argued that he was an ego maniacal tyrant who intimidated employees, and that most of the decision making was handled by the people who reported to him. When Steve passed away, I hoped.... I wished, I would be proven wrong. That has not happened.
Let's get one thing straight. *No one* could have filled Jobs' shoes at Apple. I am not a fan of Cook as CEO, but that begs the question..... is there someone who could do a better job? (I dont know the answer to that)
Over the past five years we have witnessed the transformation of the management style at Apple. Adversarial to collaborative. The marketing has shifted from geek-appeal to to hip-and-cool. The product strategy seems to have shifted from visionary to market research.
When Apple dropped the floppy drive, ADB ports, optical drive, Flash, there was a person who managed to convince us it was for the right reasons. Now with the migration to ThunderBolt3, I *know* it's for all the right reasons, but I don't see anyone at the company making that case.
Remember in the early 2000s when people would say the PC is dead? Jobs gave us the "digital hub" strategy instead of letting the Mac(and PC) languish(Today iMovie, iTunes and Photos are a mess to use). Is there anyone at Apple today who can see the next age of the PC? Or are they willing to let it languish, and chase after what market research tells them is "hip"(wearable, cars, etc)?
MacOS is severely bloated and is on a downward trajectory(performance, UI, etc), WindowsX is better(performance) that its predecessors and is generally on an upward trajectory(from what I've seen; havent used it). iOS is stale, and hasn't seen much innovation in the past 4-5 years. Software is the "secret sauce" which Apple seems to have forgotten.
I guess we, the Mac faithful, who stuck with the company through thick n thin, see that the company is focused on others these days, which is probably why we dont like the direction the company has been taking. Strangely enough, the company has been making record revenue and profits.
@Michael Scrip
I think Larry Ellison said it best in the original iMac marketing video, "Apple is a company people care about" (paraphrase).
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I've been using iOS devices, including several iPhone/iPod/iPad models, since 2012 and I have yet to see any major problems with anything. I dropped my iPhone 6s on a sidewalk, dropped from ~2 feet high, it bounced once on the top right corner, landed face down and slid for a few inches. The only sign that the iPhone was dropped is a scratch on the top right corner - the screen has no sign of the drop, which amazed me.
To the OP: Given my experience since 2012, I will continue using Apple products until they give me cause for concern. I find your ability to confuse fact with opinion.. disturbing.
To the OP: Given my experience since 2012, I will continue using Apple products until they give me cause for concern. I find your ability to confuse fact with opinion.. disturbing.
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My phone slipped out of my pocket in the concrete staircase of the parking garage at work. Bounced down a bunch of stairs before coming to rest on a landing. No problem, not even any noticeable scratches.
Two weeks later, it fell from about 1.5m as I was leaving the car. Hit exactly wrong, shattered the screen, I could mostly see the screen but the touch was unusable. New phone time.
A lot depends on how it hits.
It could be argued that just because there was no physical defect in the first drop, it didn't mean it was undamaged.
It could be argued that since the phone worked fine for two weeks after the first drop - that it didn't suffer a problem.
That would be true presuming the damage was internal and not external. Glass of all variety can take some impact for extended period of time before they weaken and thus break.
Disappointed with Apple too, the innovation is pretty lackluster. To them its not about innovating, its about just doing enough to please the shareholders. Look how much has changed since the underdog days.