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I'll never understand why there are so many negative views when there are some really great innovations ahead, that could change our lives. Could it be that some wish they had invented the iphone themselves? LOL I don't get it, I'm dumbfounded at the constant hate. The funny thing is some of these same people laughed at the people who were standing in line for the very first iphone and then jumped on the bandwagon once they realized what everyone on line already knew by observing and thinking beforehand. These are also some of the same people who think the truly ridiculous ideas, like creating an iphone nano actually make one iota of sense. I'm sorry, I'm not one to be combative, but maan. . it seems every time Apple starts to innovate, there is so much hate in some of the comments I see. Just make sure you stay home when Apple products are released from now on, so the lines will be nice and short LOL. :D
 
I'll never understand why there are so many negative views when there are some really great innovations ahead, that could change our lives. Could it be that some wish they had invented the iphone themselves? LOL I don't get it, I'm dumbfounded at the constant hate. The funny thing is some of these same people laughed at the people who were standing in line for the very first iphone and then jumped on the bandwagon once they realized what everyone on line already knew by observing and thinking beforehand. These are also some of the same people who think the truly ridiculous ideas, like creating an iphone nano actually make one iota of sense. I'm sorry, I'm not one to be combative, but maan. . it seems every time Apple starts to innovate, there is so much hate in some of the comments I see. Just make sure you stay home when Apple products are released from now on, so the lines will be nice and short LOL. :D

Whats innovative about something as useless as a pico projector? These are PMP's, projecting aint very personal. These have already been in a few phones now, and they are literally like bricks.
 
... Introduction of a new iPhone containing a micro projector by the end of this year would also be a significant deviation from Apple's usual product cycle that has seen the company release new iPhone models on a yearly basis each June or July...

You think? :rolleyes:

Apple has about as much of chance to deviate from the product cycle of the iPhone for this gadget as they do in licensing OS X to Psystar and other hardware vendors. Though I am looking forward more to the latter than this nonsense of a micro-projector. :p
 
Well, as an owner of three iPods, I can confidently say I never said to myself "gosh, I wish I had a projector right now" while using one.
 
The two things which distinguish an iPhone from a Mac of 9-10 years ago are that the screen real estate is much smaller and there is no physical keyboard.

Hardware performance is roughly the same, if not a little better on the iPhone in some areas.

The projector would address the screen real estate issue, grab a bluetooth wireless keyboard and your all set!
 
It's goofy

The technology may be going that way... and Apple may find a use for the technology... but it won't be on the iPhone.

What a stupid thing to expect. If we can't reasonably expect an LED flash bulb for the camera, what makes ANYONE think we'd get a video projector???

It's not even worth speculating about.
 
I would like to see what this really means.

There hasn't been a projector I have met which was worth more than hand full of pennies. Projection TVs-garbage. Video projectors-laughable. Xenon bulb movie projectors-good enough, but touchy and have troubles lurking up constantly needing persistent maintenance.

You CLEARLY have never looked at very many projectors because your statements are laughable. I've got a Panasonic PT-AX100U 720P projector and 93" screen and I'm sitting a mere 8 feet away and it's simply gorgeous looking. Yes, you need to control the lighting in the room for an optimum picture, but it's a small price to pay for a theater sized picture with HD clarity. The newer 1080P projectors only emphasize that fact even more. If you think projectors look like crap, then you've never seen a proper setup with a quality projector. PERIOD. Do yourself a favor and go to a high-end home theater store and ask to see a quality unit in action with something like a Blu-Ray movie. I've seen better pictures than many movie theaters using film.

No, you probably won't get that experience with a $299 special at Best Buy and looking at a projected image at something like a Buffalo Wild Wings is NOT a good gauge AT ALL (typically horrible looking at bars locally which clearly do not have proper setups or feed signals). My projector was a bargain at the time at $1600 after rebate and is now cheaper yet, with 1080P units coming down quickly in price (some now becoming available under $2000). But to be quite frank, it's these ignorant statements about products that spread misinformation about great products.
 
This is the silliest idea I've ever heard, no way Apple is doing this.
 
Whats innovative about something as useless as a pico projector? These are PMP's, projecting aint very personal. These have already been in a few phones now, and they are literally like bricks.

It's innovative in the sense that we are not stagnant. The iphone doesn't have a projector now. However, the iphone may soon have a projector. We are moving forward, which is a good thing. As far as quality, it might not be the BEST when it comes out, but it might be there is what I'm saying hence the innovation. As we already know, Apple usually takes time to find faults that are preexisting in an area, work on them, perfect them even and then make it theirs and deliver a good product to us. With that understanding, I think I can say that Apple won't put out garbage and that any offering that we do see in the future will be pretty decent, if not having the ability to provide somewhat of a wow factor. As far as use, I think it would be great to be able to quickly whip out a presentation or sit with the family or some friends wherever to have a few quick laughs or to share memories. People need to think of different aspects of use and the the possibilities of a certain thing before getting too excited about it or denying it's usefulness, you know?
 
. Normal tabletop projectors get VERY hot and have large cooling fans.

In part , that is because they can project images at 2,000-3,000 lumens. (and in part because using Xenon/Incandescent bulbs.) These things do 10-12 lumens. A normal projector you can leave the lights up enough so that folks can take notes and see other people in the room. These things you have to make the room much darker to get the similar brightness if the content being projected has any subtlety in the color range.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_(unit)
23 watt compact fluorescent lamp emits roughly 1500 to 1700 lm
which is about the same as a 100W incandescent bulb. So this thing is 100x dimmer than the classic 100W bulb. If the curtains are open and it is a sunny day... you're not going to see much.

Much closer to those pocket 2 AA battery LED flashlights. They work great in the dark.


Presentations with very high contrast (e.g, very dark backgrounds and white text) and basic pie/line charts with very basic, highly separated primary colors can get past the washed out images.
 
Foxcon is probably using disinformation. NO WAY Apple is planning this - but Foxcon wants to scare other handset makers into signing on to this.
 
That's a laser-based projector, so it's always in focus ... (the distance from the surface and the size of the screen are on a 1:1 ratio, so if you position it 100" from the surface you're projecting onto, you get a 100" display)

It is fixed focus because the lens is fixed focus. Laser as a light source does impact focus significantly.

Good luck projecting 100" with 10-15 lumens in a normally lit room. Never mind it being unobstructed 100" in normal conference room from the surface you can put the projector onto.
 
No, you probably won't get that experience with a $299 special at Best Buy

...and you WON'T get it with current microprojector technology, either. And the technology certainly will not have advanced enough to get a decent one in an iPhone by the end of this year.

This rumor is either a horrible misfire by the "source," or Steve's meds for his new liver are making him incredibly loopy to even consider this.
 
That would be too cool! Then I could watch all my porn on the bus seat in the morning. Of course I would be considerate and wear headphones.
 
And when the bulb goes out?

There is no "bulb". Solid-state laser should outlast your use of the device.

i will definitely buy the shuffle if it has a projector

Ya know, that's brilliant!
 
That would be too cool! Then I could watch all my porn on the bus seat in the morning. Of course I would be considerate and wear headphones.

Alright, don't say anything when you wake up on the floor of the bus to an old lady standing over you with a pocketbook full of bricks lol. :D
 
Foxcon is probably using disinformation. NO WAY Apple is planning this - but Foxcon wants to scare other handset makers into signing on to this.

Foxlink didn't say they were doing this. The actual quote from the article is:

developing the products in cooperation with a handset client

Working with handset vendors could be an "add on"/"clip on". The 'source' that stated all the major players are delivering headsets with this stuff in it this year is much more likely to be some "industry analyst". (who, surprise, is probably wrong. )

Besides size it would also have to be very inexpensive not to significantly increase the costs. I think what folks are looking at is that many of the other components (cpu/screen/jacks) are already there (compared to the Samsung offering).

Would be plain awkward to put into an iPhone. If put on the back with the camera lens then would need a stand to project. If can't just place it on the table, by itself, and use .... need an accessory anyway. That's way the other pico projectors are rectangle boxes can just place on the table. Thick enough so that the lens drives the height of the box. On a phone that makes no sense. Who is going to 'hold' a projector for a presentation??? Think about that. Temporarily hold a phone for a snapshot? Sure. But for a whole presentation?

That is exactly the kind of gaget freak idea would expect from an "industry analyst". For real world situations (15-55 minute presentations) ... makes no sense.
 
I could see many useful applications of a projector in the iPhone. For sharing media (movies, powerpoint, etc.) with groups it would be perfect. However, I agree that it doesn't seem like the technology has advanced along enough to make it into even a novel feature. It would need to project to a variety of sizes and in well lit rooms to be functional. And properly incoporating it into a phone seems like it would take years of R&D.

A bluetooth video feed or some way to attach the iPhone to a wide variety of external displays would be just as useful, and probably more likely.
 
Just a thought. But has anyone ever seen those projected keyboards that work with a sensor to allow one to type on them? They do exist as I've used one a few years back. Could this be the answer to those who hate the small keyboard on the iPhone? The projection quality and power could be low and still achieve this goal.
 
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