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not going to happen, whats app/telegram and signal are miles better than rcs but you are obviously stuck in the past oh and rcs isn't run by many carriers natively so you can't say that either
lol you really haven’t got a clue based on that comment. I’d love to see how telegram (scammers heaven and way to easy to impersonate someone else) can deal with emergency situations. Let alone fall back to sms.

You are making a classic mistake by looking at one part of the entire stack. That is the beauty of real standard, people actually think about it and consider all implications including what will/should/must happen when it’s not working.
 
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"non-carrier grade" meaning better grade than carriers, with more features and no hidden international costs?
What do you do when your app doesn’t work? What are the layers ensuring it does work? How does that app ensure it arrives to everyone?

Sure there are limitations by ensuring access to all. Consumed should never forget they can’t consume if it wasn’t for creators ;)
 
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Or because it is flimsy and not as durable as my lightning. I am on my second usb c cord since getting my 15
Out of interest, what part of it broke? My lightning cables would always die at the point where the cable met the lightning connector end.
 
Or because it is flimsy and not as durable as my lightning. I am on my second usb c cord since getting my 15
What do you do with your cords? I've got a Macbook Pro that I bought in 2019 that still uses its usb-c cord, and my daughter is using that one. Same as my current one that I use daily to plug in with my hub and screen.

There is nothing inherently more flimsy about usb-c vs lightning. They are both just connectors with one a bit bigger...
 
lol you really haven’t got a clue based on that comment. I’d love to see how telegram (scammers heaven and way to easy to impersonate someone else) can deal with emergency situations. Let alone fall back to sms.

You are making a classic mistake by looking at one part of the entire stack. That is the beauty of real standard, people actually think about it and consider all implications including what will/should/must happen when it’s not working.
yep you just said it yourself you don't understand anything probably an american who doesn't know better and didn't even read the post correctly.
 
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Exactly. And this cord is wires showing and all. I actually have newer ones around my house (I still use my 12 for work stuff). I keep this charger since it is holding on for dear life and it’s my car charger lol.

Got to hold it a certain way.

I didn’t tear the usb. The first one the part that goes into the phone somehow broke and I brought another from the store (genuine) and it’s frayed already.
Ah, sorry, didn't see this message before I commented. I think perhaps you've just been unlucky- in years of using USB C cables none of mine have broken, but they haven't taken the pounding the lightning cables took that broke. I've usually gone through one lightning cable a year- I found the Amazon ones lasted a bit longer than the Apple ones.
 
yep you just said it yourself you don't understand anything probably an american who doesn't know better and didn't even read the post correctly.
??? Did I? That is a bit rude towards `americans`, and no, definitely not. Just someone from an entirely different continent who is actually involved with interoperability standards through ISO, ETSI and IEC.
TCP/IP, the standard that powers data transmission around the internet?
Awesome, well, if it is so simple and robust it makes one wonder what the issue is: Doesn't it? Let's get rid of all the other layers, services, integrations, fallback mechanisms, and a whole raft of specifications and standards to make this work under all circumstances. It's just TPC/IP init ;)

LOL I really hope the AI will be good in the future as it seems there is no appreciation left as to how we got at this stage and how come 'things' just work. It seems to be lost on the 'app' generation...
 
Awesome, well, if it is so simple and robust it makes one wonder what the issue is: Doesn't it? Let's get rid of all the other layers, services, integrations, fallback mechanisms, and a whole raft of specifications and standards to make this work under all circumstances. It's just TPC/IP init ;)
TCP/IP is the backbone and standard of all Internet network transmissions. The beauty of it is that dozens of fallback specifications have been built around it because of how widespread it is. There is a strong commercial interest in keeping any service running with high uptime over TCP/IP because of its ubiquity.
 
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I've been on these forums since 2002. Whether it has been the switch from PowerPC to Intel, the original iPad introduced (Apple will never build a tablet!), first iPad and later iPhone adopting USB-C so many have claimed "Apple WILL NEVER do that!"

The RCS issue might be one of biggest ones when it comes to the crowd that made fun of anyone who would even suggest Apple might adopt this next gen texting standard. Anyhow it's always funny to watch the anger at first and later it'll be forgotten and iPhones will just go on with the only change being improved texting between platforms.
 
Well. Think about group chat between iMessage users and Android users. LOL. This is one example.

All the whining and crying about this boils down to the exclusivity. Apple users want be special, something exclusive to themselves.
Yeah it's like we are crying about being green text bubbles 🙄
 
I think you may have misunderstood. Google's RCS was always envisioned to improve B2C business messaging, not it's sole purpose, but one of its uses. Right from their website "Credit card fraud alerts, flight status updates, and package delivery notifications are common examples of business-to-consumer SMS." Although it's interesting to note the large issue RCS had in India where businesses, including banks and lending firms, abused RCS and spammed users so badly Google had to turn it off. That's a good sign that Google is being responsible (and more likely following the law), but a bad sign that it might be abused, although any system can be abused. My main point was that Google isn't pushing RCS because of some concern over kids getting bullied over green bubbles, and vice versa Apple isn't agreeing to it for that either. Although it makes for great PR and you can bet both of them will somewhere along the line toot their own horns.

Honestly what causes kids to ostracize green bubbles ain't going to go away with changing bubble colors, which I highly doubt Apple would do anyway. Fixing group chats and videos/pictures finally being sent in a modern resolution will be a great step, but non-iMessage users will still be ostracized because they can't tap back, or don't have access to stickers, or typing indicators, or whatever iMessage feature possibly doesn't make it into RCS.

To be fair that same list can and will abuse sms just as badly.

Hell I get spam iMessages at least once a week so that does not help either.
 
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no carriers adopted it, they just use googles even the ones that did apopt it got rid of it
anyone who doesn't believe me go look for yourself lol
That’s funny because they have started adopting RCS in the UK by at least 2 major carriers.
 
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no carriers adopted it, they just use googles even the ones that did apopt it got rid of it
anyone who doesn't believe me go look for yourself lol
Google Jibe is already used by other UK mobile networks and the reason we’re doing this is because Google have plans for their RCS service to make it even better than it is currently, and with all UK networks using a single shared platform, the service can be developed at speed which will give customers a better service, sooner. We’re unable to do the same thing with our own RCS platform and so this is an easy decision for us as it’ll result in a better experience for our RCS users in the future.
 
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That’s funny because they have started adopting RCS in the UK by at least 2 major carriers.
oh you mean where it says they use GOOGLE to do it its not native, carriers don't want to spend money thats why it was abandoned in the first place 🤦‍♂️
 
oh you mean where it says they use GOOGLE to do it its not native, carriers don't want to spend money thats why it was abandoned in the first place 🤦‍♂️
That’s what I said originally carriers where using RCS
It’s YOU that misunderstood as google has been trying to get them to use theirs. That’s why one of the reasons Apple is having to adopt it because if every major carrier starts to use it then they are going to have to eventually adopt it.
All I said was RCS in my original post you made it out as being something else not ME 🤔
 
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I don’t think the person actually cares what messaging app you use.
It just seems to be very tribal in America unlike other places.
This is all to do with most carriers are now adopting RCS as standard & the European Union are looking into iMessage as being a gatekeeper app.
It’s not tribal, most of us prefer iMessage to janky 3rd party apps
 
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