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yep you just said it yourself you don't understand anything probably an american who doesn't know better and didn't even read the post correctly.
Yet here you are using and defending a product designed, developed and sold by a U.S. company. I hope you are happy us Americans give you such a great product with your iPhone. There is no tech company in Europe that’s holds a candle to American tech innovation.

Now back to RCS. It’s great that Apple will be using it and it‘s going to improve texting greatly between iPhones and Android phones using the stock texting app. It probably matters more in America where the vast majority just use the stock texting app whether that’s Apple Messages or Google Messages, but millions of people will benefit from it. Well you won’t, however Apple isn’t going to change their mind because you are so upset by this.
 
I wonder whether we‘ll see substantial upgrade to iMessage with this. AFAIK RCS supports 100 group chat participants by default, whereas iMessage caps out at 32. Makes sense for Apple to up that limit to 100 for parity.
 
What do you do with your cords? I've got a Macbook Pro that I bought in 2019 that still uses its usb-c cord, and my daughter is using that one. Same as my current one that I use daily to plug in with my hub and screen.

There is nothing inherently more flimsy about usb-c vs lightning. They are both just connectors with one a bit bigger...
USB c definitely is more flimy. I simply use my cord the same way i use my lightning
 
I and millions of iPhone users aren’t hurt. This is only for android users who chose to use the device they brought.

There are tons of messaging apps that can be used to communicate without needing to affect messaging on apple.
I, an iPhone user, am hurt whenever I have to text android users, which is frequently. By your line of reasoning, why should apple even support MMS? There are lots of other options!
 
At the time there wasn't...now there is.
I use Messenger as my backup because most people I know have it, however it's still tied in with Facebook. You can deactivate your Facebook and still use it, but it's still tied into all of that. It's a good option when you have to send larger files or photos between an iPhone and Android phone. I also have Snapchat for my closest friends and find my younger friends use that a lot, but it's a pretty poor messaging platform outside of sending fun snaps.

As far as the other options go like WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, etc. They might be a big thing in certain places but in my experience texting whether iMessage or SMS followed by Messenger and Snapchat is what my friends use. I know it's a different story outside of the US, but here so many people just use the stock texting app the phone comes with. In those cases making Apple Messages and Google Messages play nicer together will be a big improvement.

It just gives everyone a better phone number based texting option that's pre-installed on a phone. If you don't want to use it that's fine, but a lot of iPhone users just like to use iMessage to communicate with everyone. The same is true with Google Messages. It's hard to get all your friends and family to start using something new.
 
It is also really kind of baffling how so many people want to change what makes iphone an iphone and its features/abilities to match non iphone devices... like at that point just get a phone that isnt an iphone?
 
but then we'll have to start seeing those ugly android emojis now lol
The emojis are defined by the system font (and/or the font used by the application) and they don't depend on the messaging service used by the stock Messages app.
It is also really kind of baffling how so many people want to change what makes iphone an iphone and its features/abilities to match non iphone devices... like at that point just get a phone that isnt an iphone?
What makes an iPhone an iPhone? Is it the stubborn locking down of useful features?
 
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No they haven't said as much. I'm sorry but you're wrong. Google is using Signal protocol for encryption. They do not have the keys. Educating yourself isn't difficult. You're making a conscious choice to be ignorant when the information is readily available.
Indeed it is and has been and has been repeatedly reported upon here and many other places by Google themselves. But I guess I shouldn't listen to them huh?
 
It won’t be worthless because Google‘s implementation will still communicate with the UP. You will still get added benefits like typing indicators, larger multimedia files and better group messaging. Now unless things change with the UP it’ll be unencrypted between an iPhone and an Android phone and some minor features will be lacking, but it’ll still provide a much better experience than SMS. Apple might get encryption added to the UP so who knows how this all plays out in the end.
For like the thousandth time, it won't be useful unless your carrier utilizes UP on iPhone. It has to be enabled carrier-side or you have to use Google's messaging app. If they implement UP tomorrow and your carrier has not, nothing will be different.
 
It improves the user experience for users of Google's operating system, removing one of the major reasons some people cite for purchasing iPhones instead of Android phones.
They'll get full res audio/video/photo, sure, but they won't get any of the other iMess attributes. That's not a compelling reason to switch sides. If you're going to switch, you're going to. Being able to send full res photos isn't going to sway anyone either direction. Android can already do so to Android and iPhone to iPhone. Being able to send from iPhone to Android isn't going to make someone want to switch from one to the other. That's illogical.
 
Indeed it is and has been and has been repeatedly reported upon here and many other places by Google themselves. But I guess I shouldn't listen to them huh?
Please point me to even one statement or report that Google has broken the encryption of Signal's protocol and currently possesses the keys to decrypt those messages. (The private keys stored on each users device in the TEE or SE or Titan M2)
 
For like the thousandth time, it won't be useful unless your carrier utilizes UP on iPhone. It has to be enabled carrier-side or you have to use Google's messaging app. If they implement UP tomorrow and your carrier has not, nothing will be different.
I see, you‘re still spreading FUD. Apple will absolutely roll their own RCS hub, no carrier implementation needed. Don‘t listen to the poster I‘m quoting, has no idea what UP is or how RCS works.
 
Please point me to even one statement or report that Google has broken the encryption of Signal's protocol and currently possesses the keys to decrypt those messages. (The private keys stored on each users device in the TEE or SE or Titan M2)
What happened to educating yourself isn't difficult? They're not using Signal's protocol, they're using a protocol based upon Signal's which has been said multiple times in here by multiple people. Just like they're not using RCS UP, they're using their version of it which they control.
 
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I see, you‘re still spreading FUD. Apple will absolutely roll their own RCS hub, no carrier implementation needed. Don‘t listen to the poster I‘m quoting, has no idea what UP is or how RCS works.
I am neither scared, uncertain, or doubtful but sure. Whatever floats your goat. They might roll out their own hub, there's no info on that. All we have is that they're implementing RCS UP and not Jibe late next year. Which, right now, only means an additional protocol like SMS and MMS. Which if that's all they do, will absolutely require carrier side support per GMSA and RCS standards. I don't have to know how it works, I only need to know what the people who control it says on how it works. They say it has to be implemented on your device and your carrier has to implement it. One or the other and it doesn't work. Just like SMS and MMS.
 
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