Tribal is used to describe things relating to or belonging to tribes and the way that they are organized.It’s not tribal, most of us prefer iMessage to janky 3rd party apps
Tribal is used to describe things relating to or belonging to tribes and the way that they are organized.It’s not tribal, most of us prefer iMessage to janky 3rd party apps
Yet here you are using and defending a product designed, developed and sold by a U.S. company. I hope you are happy us Americans give you such a great product with your iPhone. There is no tech company in Europe that’s holds a candle to American tech innovation.yep you just said it yourself you don't understand anything probably an american who doesn't know better and didn't even read the post correctly.
Who has said that?and there will be no end to end encryption
It’s literally in the rcs spec, their isn’t any encryptionWho has said that?
Yep, my sister and mum has an iPhone but still message on WhatsAppWon't topple WhatsApp in the UK, not even close. I'm all-in on iMessage, but even my Apple-loving friends and family talk a lot through WhatsApp.
To be fair that same list can and will abuse sms just as badly.
Hell I get spam iMessages at least once a week so that does not help either.
All RCS traffic is encrypted, just not end-to-end. The spec provides metadata capabilities necessary to add end-to-end encryption, which is obvious given that Google has done it. All Apple has said so far is that they want that layer added to the GSMA spec.isn’t any encryption
USB c definitely is more flimy. I simply use my cord the same way i use my lightningWhat do you do with your cords? I've got a Macbook Pro that I bought in 2019 that still uses its usb-c cord, and my daughter is using that one. Same as my current one that I use daily to plug in with my hub and screen.
There is nothing inherently more flimsy about usb-c vs lightning. They are both just connectors with one a bit bigger...
I, an iPhone user, am hurt whenever I have to text android users, which is frequently. By your line of reasoning, why should apple even support MMS? There are lots of other options!I and millions of iPhone users aren’t hurt. This is only for android users who chose to use the device they brought.
There are tons of messaging apps that can be used to communicate without needing to affect messaging on apple.
At the time there wasn't...now there is.I, an iPhone user, am hurt whenever I have to text android users, which is frequently. By your line of reasoning, why should apple even support MMS? There are lots of other options!
which means the massive flaw in the UX exists and the problem isn't entirely solved.Nobody expects every device to migrate. That is an unrealistic expectation.
I use Messenger as my backup because most people I know have it, however it's still tied in with Facebook. You can deactivate your Facebook and still use it, but it's still tied into all of that. It's a good option when you have to send larger files or photos between an iPhone and Android phone. I also have Snapchat for my closest friends and find my younger friends use that a lot, but it's a pretty poor messaging platform outside of sending fun snaps.At the time there wasn't...now there is.
It’s not stupid it’s just your opinion! You obviously don’t like it because of the colours! Now that sounds stupid to me!read the sentences after I called it stupid
The emojis are defined by the system font (and/or the font used by the application) and they don't depend on the messaging service used by the stock Messages app.but then we'll have to start seeing those ugly android emojis now lol
What makes an iPhone an iPhone? Is it the stubborn locking down of useful features?It is also really kind of baffling how so many people want to change what makes iphone an iphone and its features/abilities to match non iphone devices... like at that point just get a phone that isnt an iphone?
Indeed it is and has been and has been repeatedly reported upon here and many other places by Google themselves. But I guess I shouldn't listen to them huh?No they haven't said as much. I'm sorry but you're wrong. Google is using Signal protocol for encryption. They do not have the keys. Educating yourself isn't difficult. You're making a conscious choice to be ignorant when the information is readily available.
For like the thousandth time, it won't be useful unless your carrier utilizes UP on iPhone. It has to be enabled carrier-side or you have to use Google's messaging app. If they implement UP tomorrow and your carrier has not, nothing will be different.It won’t be worthless because Google‘s implementation will still communicate with the UP. You will still get added benefits like typing indicators, larger multimedia files and better group messaging. Now unless things change with the UP it’ll be unencrypted between an iPhone and an Android phone and some minor features will be lacking, but it’ll still provide a much better experience than SMS. Apple might get encryption added to the UP so who knows how this all plays out in the end.
They'll get full res audio/video/photo, sure, but they won't get any of the other iMess attributes. That's not a compelling reason to switch sides. If you're going to switch, you're going to. Being able to send full res photos isn't going to sway anyone either direction. Android can already do so to Android and iPhone to iPhone. Being able to send from iPhone to Android isn't going to make someone want to switch from one to the other. That's illogical.It improves the user experience for users of Google's operating system, removing one of the major reasons some people cite for purchasing iPhones instead of Android phones.
Please point me to even one statement or report that Google has broken the encryption of Signal's protocol and currently possesses the keys to decrypt those messages. (The private keys stored on each users device in the TEE or SE or Titan M2)Indeed it is and has been and has been repeatedly reported upon here and many other places by Google themselves. But I guess I shouldn't listen to them huh?
I see, you‘re still spreading FUD. Apple will absolutely roll their own RCS hub, no carrier implementation needed. Don‘t listen to the poster I‘m quoting, has no idea what UP is or how RCS works.For like the thousandth time, it won't be useful unless your carrier utilizes UP on iPhone. It has to be enabled carrier-side or you have to use Google's messaging app. If they implement UP tomorrow and your carrier has not, nothing will be different.
What happened to educating yourself isn't difficult? They're not using Signal's protocol, they're using a protocol based upon Signal's which has been said multiple times in here by multiple people. Just like they're not using RCS UP, they're using their version of it which they control.Please point me to even one statement or report that Google has broken the encryption of Signal's protocol and currently possesses the keys to decrypt those messages. (The private keys stored on each users device in the TEE or SE or Titan M2)
I am neither scared, uncertain, or doubtful but sure. Whatever floats your goat. They might roll out their own hub, there's no info on that. All we have is that they're implementing RCS UP and not Jibe late next year. Which, right now, only means an additional protocol like SMS and MMS. Which if that's all they do, will absolutely require carrier side support per GMSA and RCS standards. I don't have to know how it works, I only need to know what the people who control it says on how it works. They say it has to be implemented on your device and your carrier has to implement it. One or the other and it doesn't work. Just like SMS and MMS.I see, you‘re still spreading FUD. Apple will absolutely roll their own RCS hub, no carrier implementation needed. Don‘t listen to the poster I‘m quoting, has no idea what UP is or how RCS works.