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Mlrollin91

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Good grief. What the hell was I reading? Too much booze I guess?!?
As mentioned above, yes Apple still does in store trade ins for Macs. My friend just did it over the weekend. She ordered her MBP without selecting trade in. Once it arrived, she took her old machine to Apple and was in and out in 5 minutes. They refunded the amount to her CC.

From my understanding, you must do it within 14 days of purchasing the new machine (or 14 days of receiving from an online order).
 

Elcuria

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As mentioned above, yes Apple still does in store trade ins for Macs. My friend just did it over the weekend. She ordered her MBP without selecting trade in. Once it arrived, she took her old machine to Apple and was in and out in 5 minutes. They refunded the amount to her CC.

From my understanding, you must do it within 14 days of purchasing the new machine (or 14 days of receiving from an online order).

Thanks to both of you! Quite helpful.
 

startergo

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From my understanding, you must do it within 14 days of purchasing the new machine (or 14 days of receiving from an online order).
Not really. You don't need to buy anything to trade in. I first did 2 trade ins (collected 2 Apple gift cards) and then bought Mac studio. But those transactions were not related to each other.
 

Mlrollin91

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Not really. You don't need to buy anything to trade in. I first did 2 trade ins (collected 2 Apple gift cards) and then bought Mac studio. But those transactions were not related to each other.
I should have clarified, I believe to get the amount refunded to your CC you need to purchase within 14 days.
 

cyclingplatypus

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I should have clarified, I believe to get the amount refunded to your CC you need to purchase within 14 days.
I was under the impression in order for this to happen you needed to initiate the trade in during a purchase and then you have 14 days to send the trade-in.
 

Mlrollin91

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I was under the impression in order for this to happen you needed to initiate the trade in during a purchase and then you have 14 days to send the trade-in.
Nope. At least, not my experience. My iPad last month and my friends MacBook on Saturday were post-purchase trade ins and we did not indicate online during the order we had a trade in.
 
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flapflapflap

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No, they did not. It is fast and easy. Also, I had some dead pixels which didn't make a difference.
My wife would like to trade in or get value for her M1 Air and buy the 14. Should she first buy the 14, then go to the store and trade in the M1 Air? Can she then use the trade in value against the 14 and receive a refund?
 

flapflapflap

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Nope. At least, not my experience. My iPad last month and my friends MacBook on Saturday were post-purchase trade ins and we did not indicate online during the order we had a trade in.
did you get gift cards? how were u able to apply the trade in value to the product you already paid for?
 

Mlrollin91

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My wife would like to trade in or get value for her M1 Air and buy the 14. Should she first buy the 14, then go to the store and trade in the M1 Air? Can she then use the trade in value against the 14 and receive a refund?
Yes.
 

Christopher Kim

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Nov 18, 2016
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Not really. You don't need to buy anything to trade in. I first did 2 trade ins (collected 2 Apple gift cards) and then bought Mac studio. But those transactions were not related to each other.
While that's true, in addition to not getting the refund on the original payment credit card (which is better than a gift card since you don't have to buy something else to crystallize the savings), I believe when you do it this way, not only do you get the "refund" of the trade-in-value, but also the value of the sales tax (because technically, they're allowing you to reduce the purchase price of the new MBP, which lowers the sales tax you should have paid).

Given those 2 benefits, it is somewhat advantageous if you can link the 2 transactions in the first 14 days.
 

startergo

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but also the value of the sales tax (because technically, they're allowing you to reduce the purchase price of the new MBP, which lowers the sales tax you should have paid).
Not sure how would you offset the tax though. The payment is applied at the final stage of the purchase when the taxes are already calculated. At the same time are applied all credits. Unless you personally saw a tax offset don't think that is the case.
 

dagored

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Not sure how would you offset the tax though. The payment is applied at the final stage of the purchase when the taxes are already calculated. At the same time are applied all credits. Unless you personally saw a tax offset don't think that is the case.
It’s the tax on the value of the trade in, not the purchase.
 

startergo

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It’s the tax on the value of the trade in, not the purchase.
So you are saying they will add tax refund on the trade in value? The tax value on my trade in was 0. The trade in was not taxed nor did I see a tax refund. I am struggling to understand how this process would work otherwise.
 

FreakinEurekan

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The terms are here (for USA, other countries may be different)… regardless of what forum members friends cousins experience was, what you can COUNT on happening is “Trade in when you buy a new product and we’ll apply the value toward your purchase.” If you buy something and then bring your old product into the store a day or a week or 14 days later… maybe they’ll refund your credit card, maybe you’ll get a gift card. Saying “I read it on MacRumors” probably won’t make a lot of difference in the outcome.
 

dagored

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So you are saying they will add tax refund on the trade in value? The tax value on my trade in was 0. The trade in was not taxed nor did I see a tax refund. I am struggling to understand how this process would work otherwise.
My trade in on two different Airs was about $25 more than the quote. Since my sales tax rate is about 7%, I figured that was the difference and accounted for the increase in funds. No tax was listed, just a total.
 

startergo

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The terms are here (for USA, other countries may be different)… regardless of what forum members friends cousins experience was, what you can COUNT on happening is “Trade in when you buy a new product and we’ll apply the value toward your purchase.” If you buy something and then bring your old product into the store a day or a week or 14 days later… maybe they’ll refund your credit card, maybe you’ll get a gift card. Saying “I read it on MacRumors” probably won’t make a lot of difference in the outcome.
The only thing I see here about the 14 days window is:
Keep in mind that we need to receive your device within 14 days of initiating the trade-in, and the condition needs to match what you told us.

If the condition of the device is different from what you described, we’ll provide a revised value. You can either accept or reject it. If you accept it, we’ll continue with the trade-in and either charge or credit the difference in value to the card you provided. If you reject it, we’ll cancel the trade-in, return your current device, and charge the original trade-in value to your card. No matter what, we’ll send you email updates about the progress of your trade-in, so you’ll know what’s happening at every step.
What they are saying here is that you can check the trade in value online and it would normally match the assessed value unless you over/under estimate the condition of the device. In which case the actual estimated value may differ.
There is nothing in the terms and conditions mentioning taxes, so I don't see a difference if you trade in a product for a store credit or for a discount towards an actual purchase.

It is actually better to trade in as fast as you can for the fear that the trade in value may/will drop over the time.
 
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FreakinEurekan

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The only thing I see here about the 14 days window is:
Sure - my point is, set up the trade at the time of purchase. If you’re purchasing online for pick-up at a store, set up the trade then. If you bring your old device randomly into the store AFTER arranging a purchase without a trade-in, I’d count on getting a gift card. “Maybe” they’ll credit your purchasing credit card but I don’t see where that’s promised anywhere.
 

scottrngr

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Regarding value, I checked the value of my M1 Mini the day before the Studio was released. It was $500. The next day, the value dropped $100. I still traded it in.
 

Mlrollin91

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It’s the tax on the value of the trade in, not the purchase.

My trade in on two different Airs was about $25 more than the quote. Since my sales tax rate is about 7%, I figured that was the difference and accounted for the increase in funds. No tax was listed, just a total.
I have done several trade ins and have never received a tax credit or tax reduction. I’ve done trade ins during the same transaction and on a different day entirely. Each time, they charge the full sales tax on the new machine and then apply the trade in credit after.

It’s possible it’s a state thing. Some states give a sales tax credit when trading in something, like a car. California, you pay tax on the price of the good, not what you actually pay for it.

For example, when phones used to be subsidized, we would pay sales tax on the full value, not the subsidized price.
 
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