Apple TV 3 Rumor

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Rumors had been around for a couple of years already, Apple had said it many times they will not buy content provides, they want partners, that is why the rumors of having landed "good" deals with several TV content providers to be serve to the iTV (and the ATV if you ask me).

My point is that YES, apple can and will push those away offering the content directly, Forcing those middle men to get into the content and distribution instead of monopolizing it, I am not saying that ISP itself will go away, but Comcast as an example own a lot of the content it provide.

Rumors of this had been coming from experts for a couple of years now. this is not my theory, this is what the rumor mill and experts had been saying for a while.

Maturola, I think we're talking about 2 different things. Those rumors for "good deals" are with content providers, but that's not content distributors. Content providers are the owners of the content itself- big and small studios like Warner Bros, Paramount, CBS, ABC, etc. Getting better deals with them is aiming at filling the iTunes Store with everything and maybe offering that everything at some kind of better pricing than it is offered now (maybe just lower price, maybe by subscription).

The problem I'm talking about has next to nothing to do with that. The problem I'm offering is how to get that "everything" from Apple's servers to our TVs. That's where it must pass through pipes generally controlled by companies in the video distribution business. That's not Warner Bros, Paramount, etc. That's companies like Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, Cablevision, etc. There's no incentive for them to give Apple better deals just like there's no incentive for AT&T, Verizon & Sprint to compete on pricing plans for the iPhone vs. companies like Metro PCS or T-mobile. If Apple could make better deals for broadband, you'd see it in pricing plans for 3G (so that Apple could sell even more iPhones). Imagine a Walmart Unlimited everything plan at $30-$40 available for iPhone. Why hasn't Apple made that "better deal"?

I believe Apple is probably doing just fine in convincing the owners of the content to consider various pricing plans that might lead to "better deals". I don't see anything Apple can do to get the broadband gatekeepers to offer "better deals" as there's nothing in this for them. In fact, its just the opposite: if Apple's better video subscription service takes hold, they lose revenues in their cable tv business. Why would they make it easier for Apple's replacement model to take money from them?

 

[slothrob]

Would be nice if Apple added some kind of DLNA support, or any device such as their own branded external drive/new time capsule which can store an itunes library and let other apple devices access it.

Its a royal pain in the backside having to have my computer switched on in order to enjoy itunes content.

I'm always surprised to hear that people turn their computers off.

I agree that attachable storage would be nice, but the streaming part isn't a problem for me. I'm mostly just getting tired of having my computer hard drive 75% filled by iTunes media.

 

[Che Castro]

They should make the current apple tv $50. To compete with roku

 

[maturola]

Maturola, I think we're talking about 2 different things. Those rumors for "good deals" are with content providers, but that's not content distributors.

We are talking about the same issue, I guess my english is not good enough for me to explain it in a way is clearer, the bottom line is as i said before, while i may or may not agreed with what apple is doing, the products release on the next few years to the next few months will back up my statements (i got no doubt), physical storage is dead for apple devices, and no external "expansion" port will be present on any future device, the content will be on the cloud and it will be push to every apple device you own, the need for local severs and client and storage will no exits (according to them, personally i will always find a way around it since i don't want freaking DRM on my content)

 

[superlatic]

I'm always surprised to hear that people turn their computers off.

I agree that attachable storage would be nice, but the streaming part isn't a problem for me. I'm mostly just getting tired of having my computer hard drive 75% filled by iTunes media.

Wasn't referring to support for an external hdd, rather support for a network drive.

Somewhat defeats the purpose of having a 'green low powered energy efficient Apple TV' when in order to get any use out of it and access your itunes content, you need your mac switched on to access your movies/tv programmes.

 

[MacOverWin]

I bought an ATV2 the other day for one of my TVs. I was going to purchase another one for another TV that I have but will wait for ATV3. Hoping the jailbreak will follow shortly.

 

[CHRONiC YOUTH]

I bought an ATV2 the other day for one of my TVs. I was going to purchase another one for another TV that I have but will wait for ATV3. Hoping the jailbreak will follow shortly.

Hopefully the new chip in these things can be jaikbroken at all.. With each new chip jbing becomes more and more difficult, the ipad 2 was a pita for the dev team.. hopefully we wont see an end to jailbreaking before when this atv3 is released cause i would love to have xbmc on this thing!

 

[maturola]

Hopefully the new chip in these things can be jaikbroken at all.. With each new chip jbing becomes more and more difficult, the ipad 2 was a pita for the dev team.. hopefully we wont see an end to jailbreaking before when this atv3 is released cause i would love to have xbmc on this thing!

You don't have to worry about that, JB will not end. the iPad 2 actually was Jailbroken pretty soon after release, about 3 weeks after, what it took long was to found an stable way to release a tool, the A5 chip wasn't really much of an issue, but the structure change on iOS (and a totally new maintenance team since the core OS change drastically).

we need to wait a see what the ATV3 is coming up with before specualting on the JB

 

[CHRONiC YOUTH]

You don't have to worry about that, JB will not end. the iPad 2 actually was Jailbroken pretty soon after release, about 3 weeks after, what it took long was to found an stable way to release a tool, the A5 chip wasn't really much of an issue, but the structure change on iOS (and a totally new maintenance team since the core OS change drastically).

we need to wait a see what the ATV3 is coming up with before specualting on the JB

One dev jbing his personal ipad 2 with apple code, is not a jailbreak, a jb is realeased to the masses and contains no apple code, this took comex and the other devs MONTHS to do, and it will only get harder with each new revision of their processors

 

[maturola]

One dev jbing his personal ipad 2 with apple code, is not a jailbreak, a jb is realeased to the masses and contains no apple code, this took comex and the other devs MONTHS to do, and it will only get harder with each new revision of their processors

the JB i am talking about did not had any Apple code, and it was distributed to developers, it was just not package as a tool. It took weeks, no months and not the revision of the processor will not affect the difficulty of the jailbreak, it may however affect the final tool since it need support for multiples devices/processors.

 

[CHRONiC YOUTH]

the JB i am talking about did not had any Apple code, and it was distributed to developers, it was just not package as a tool. It took weeks, no months and not the revision of the processor will not affect the difficulty of the jailbreak, it may however affect the final tool since it need support for multiples devices/processors.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about haha the Dev Jb ur talking about did use apple code that's why it was never distributed to the masses only the Dev team utilizes that exploit, and if you don't think revision of a processor will effect a Jb then explain to me why there was only two Jb for all of iOS 5 and at least 10 for each iOS before and if u still don't believe me look at what musclenerd and the rest of the Dev team had to say the last time, plz stop acting like you know what you're talking about because honestly you dont! I see you are excited though haha

http://pod2g-ios.blogspot.com/2012/01/a5-faq.html
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-a...ne-4s-and-ipad-2-jailbreak-still-not-possible

^ for your reading pleasure

 

[BryanLyle]

HDMI pass-thru.... No need to switch inputs, etc. If I want to watch AppleTV, just click a button and it pops up "over" what I'm watching... ala Google TV.

That's the ONLY think I like about Google TV

 

[maturola]

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about haha the Dev Jb ur talking about did use apple code that's why it was never distributed to the masses only the Dev team utilizes that exploit, and if you don't think revision of a processor will effect a Jb then explain to me why there was only two Jb for all of iOS 5 and at least 10 for each iOS before and if u still don't believe me look at what musclenerd and the rest of the Dev team had to say the last time, plz stop acting like you know what you're talking about because honestly you dont! I see you are excited though haha

http://pod2g-ios.blogspot.com/2012/01/a5-faq.html
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-a...ne-4s-and-ipad-2-jailbreak-still-not-possible

^ for your reading pleasure

I had access to the code myself, I do know exactly what I am talking about, but the fact the you believe me or not doesn't change the facts, They didn't use apple code, it only required a developers account in order to be signed, if you expend 5 min on the irc you will know exactly what they are working on. please stop twisting developers words. To be a little more specific the fact older processor are more difficult to exploit since the code on them is mature, as revision o the hardware to cut cost are made bootrom exploits are more difficult to find, with a new core and hardware the chances of buggy code is more likely. But if you are happier living with the wrong idea and waiting for doomdays where no more jailbreaks are possible, please go ahead don't let me stop you

 

[Stuipdboy1000]

I was looking around on the Best Buy website and found this.

Thoughts?

 

[slothrob]

Somewhat defeats the purpose of having a 'green low powered energy efficient Apple TV' when in order to get any use out of it and access your itunes content, you need your mac switched on to access your movies/tv programmes.

I wouldn't worry about that, it's not a huge defeat.

Chances are your modern Mac is drawing ~1 watt or less while it is sleeping and waiting for you to use the aTV, then maybe it might peak at 7-10 watts occasionally while it is accessing the content. A lot of that is going to the hard drive, which you are going to need to power for USB- or network-connected storage, too.

 

[kiranmk2]

I used to worry about running itunes all the time too, but as I understand it, the iOS devices can access iTunes on a sleeping Mac. I have an ATV1 which needs the Mac to be awake, but my iPhone can access itunes content when my Macbook is asleep.

 

[Apple...]

I was looking around on the Best Buy website and found this.

Thoughts?

Probably just photoshopped - something ad agencies tend to do.

 

[davidoloan]

I was looking around on the Best Buy website and found this.

Thoughts?

The code is for the old model.

Probably nothing.

Also, it has lost it's good proportions. If it was too be thinner I think it would be redesigned rather than just flattened.

 

[Stuipdboy1000]

Shipping on Apple's UK store has slipped to 2-4 business days. That would put it around Wednesday/Thursday, which also suggests imminent availability.

 

[mchalebk]

While I would welcome (and probably use) the capability to connect an external HD, I am resigned to the fact that Apple is probably (almost certainly?) moving to all streaming devices.

Here is what I would like to see:

1. Analog audio out. For those of us with a multi-zone setup, we need analog audio to feed the second zone. I realize I can buy a $25 converter, but that's 25% of the cost of an ATV, it's one more thing to connect and it shouldn't be necessary. This would also be good for people who want to connect headphones or regular powered speakers (like computer speakers). Lots of devices require analog audio. Why not give us a dual optical/analog jack (like the Airport Express has)? This can't be a significant cost driver.

2. More onboard storage. I would be shocked if they didn't offer 16 GB minimum, but it would be nice to be able to order 32 or 64 GB. Why do we need so much? Read on.

3. Open up the ATV to 3rd party apps and the iOS App Store. It wouldn't take much for me to be able to retire my ATV1 and my Roku player.

 

[iMoo]

Well just put my apple tv on flea-bay 2 mins ago for a 24 hour auction. It cost me £99 when i got it and they are selling for around £80 so after fees probably have £70 so not too bad a return owning the Apple TV since release (think over a year) for £29

Hopefully if they do release an Apple TV 3 then it will be a similar price range. I still got the £300 i had from selling my 32gb iPad last month so shouldn't be too costly an upgrade. Providing the cases aren't priced a ridiculous amount.

So hopefully Wednesday i will be able to pre-order a iPad/ATV3 and a leather portfolio case

Still can't decide on size of iPad........think I'm leaning towards 32gb black again.
Pretty sure sizes will be 16/32/64 again just because i think if they offered 128gb not as many people would pay the higher tier and stick with 64gb. Whereas if they keep it as they have now, more will opt for 64gb this time around and give Apple the extra cash of the top tier. Think the higher res and large txt books and apps will cause some people to opt for at least 64gb.

For me though think it's going to be 32gb and ATV or if no ATV announced, possibly get 64gb....hmmmm.....food for thought though exciting.

Think i'm going to avoid the scraps of info from news feed and just wait for the full announcement to be uploaded to apple site.

 

[davidoloan]

Well just put my apple tv on flea-bay 2 mins ago for a 24 hour auction. It cost me £99 when i got it and they are selling for around £80 so after fees probably have £70 so not too bad a return owning the Apple TV since release (think over a year) for £29

I sold all mine on Amazon within 24 hrs for the same money as ebay without the paypal fraud concerns.

Here's hoping a new model actually comes out this week.