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Apple TV vs Playstation 3

How about putting AppleTV ON a PS3...

I have seen AppleTV's OS on torrent threads and I have heard it can be installed onto Macs...

Anybody try to port the ATV's os onto a partitioned PS3??


That would be SWEET--kinda like having a Ferrari with a generator in the passenger seat.

Someone who knows more than me explain why we can't...
 
sorry to up the thread but i have a question.

I currently have a ps3 and am delighted with the quality of its dvd upscaling, however im considering getting an :apple:tv then ripping all my dvds (100+) and streaming them via :apple:tv.

My question is (which hasn't been answered in this thread), what is the picture quality like ps3 upscaled dvd vs :apple:tv upscaled h.264 converted dvd.
 
Will today E3 announcement mean anything to the Apple TV?

Announcing the service at E3, the game industry's big annual conference in Los Angeles, Sony said its TV-show rentals will cost $1.99 per episode and that movie rentals will cost $2.99 to $5.99. Movie purchases will start at $9.99. Some of the programming will be viewable in high definition.
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Honestly, I have both Apple TV and PS3. It's too earlier to tell for me as I haven't download/rent any movie from the PSN.
 
If Apple starts allowing HD purchase and HD rental on Mac they will still rule the market. I checked this out last night and the interface sucks, but for 5.99 these rentals better be 1080p HD rentals.

I think everyone is trying to jump on board now that Apple has set the stage. Just like with iPhone, everyone is trying to create a similiar experience. I hope Apple doesn't give up and continues to enhance ATV for couch surfer, etc. No that we have the new iPhone remote, we know it is possible to have a wi-fi keyboard or even use the iPhone as the keyboard/mouse.
 
Just so you know, the PS3 can fit any 2.5 inch internal notebook hard drive inside the machine.

Also the PS3 just released their tv show, movie purchase/rental service tonight.

Now it can truly compete with the Apple Tv. Pound for pound almost. The tv show files for Family Guy are 351 MB.

The PS3 can now do what the Apple tv can do.:)

I don't really care though. I own both devices.
 
The updated TOS:

Only one copy of a Rental Content may be viewable on an Authorized Device for up to 24 hours after the first playback or 14 days after payment for the Rental Content, whichever is sooner. After such time, you will not be able to view the Rental Content.
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full TOS - 9. VIDEO CONTENT.
 
Downloading Hellboy HD rental. Not sure if it is 1080p or not yet.
May not be able to tell as my PS3 outputs in 1080p and would probably scale the content anyway. Anyone know if Sony mentions the resolution of it's HD rentals?
 
DeSquared said:
I have seen AppleTV's OS on torrent threads and I have heard it can be installed onto Macs...

Anybody try to port the ATV's os onto a partitioned PS3??


That would be SWEET--kinda like having a Ferrari with a generator in the passenger seat.

Someone who knows more than me explain why we can't...
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Even ignoring the questionable legality of what you're proposing, the processor and other architecture of the PS3 is completely different to Apple TV, so it would never work (it's like trying to install a copy of OSX before the Intel Switch onto a Windows PC)
 
My HD rental on PS3 took a long time to download. Looked like less than 1080p and had a stereo PCM soundtrack with no DD. Otherwise a fun time.
I'll stick with Apple for the time being.
 
Here are the problems as I see it having compared the two systems:

PS3:

Weak interface
Quality slightly less sharp.
Download time 4 times longer (at least)
No Dolby Digital (inexcusable for HD content)
More expensive
Only 14 days to view (24 hours once you start)

I hope it gets better, but for now ATV wins on all counts.
 
decadentdave said:
Gotta go with PS3 on this one.

Plays Blu-rays in full 1080p with uncompressed TrueHD audio. I'll take Blu-ray any day over H.264 compressed resolution. I can transport media to my PS3 and play divx movies I've downloaded vs. paying iTunes to "rent" a movie for 24 hours. Talk about eating money. If I want to "pay" for a movie, I want to "own" it. AppleTV is just a dedicated vending machine to make money for Apple. They might as well put a slot on the front of it to insert coins or bills.

Oh, and, I could install the Mac OS on my PS3 if I want. But then, why would I even need to buy a Mac? :D:apple:
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if i have ripped full HD vid on my comp, can i play it thru an ATV to my bravia and control it via my iphone?

which has better quality?
can an ATV be made to play divx's?
got a free PS3 with the bravia, so might sell and get an ATV as i dont play console games
can i put anyform of mac OS on a PS3?

if i could i would just get a mini and run the pro as a server, but that isnt an option.
 
I've been thinking about getting an ATV for a long while now. I just never took the plunge. This past x-mas the mrs. got me a PS3 and I am now exploring its full potential as a media center and possible alternative to the ATV. I tried the 30 min. demo of medialink the other day and realized that all those shows I bought on the itunes store are not playable on my ps3 through medialink because of DRM. That was a big bummer. Like others have said download times for the ps3 for anything are pretty long. I currently do not have cable and have been watching tv shows on my computer via the broadcasting company websites. My question is how do you "save money" by having an ATV or ps3 linked via medialink vs paying for cable. Thanks.
 
I have both devices.... here are more PS3 problems:
- Fan noise: very annoying during quiet parts in a movie (ATV has no fan)
- Heat: during hot days the air conditioner runs more frequently
- Power: PS3 draws a lot of power (175W during movie playback vs. 17W for ATV)
Apple TV has none of those problems.
 
BobF4321 said:
I have both devices.... here are more PS3 problems:
- Fan noise: very annoying during quiet parts in a movie (ATV has no fan)
- Heat: during hot days the air conditioner runs more frequently
- Power: PS3 draws a lot of power (175W during movie playback vs. 17W for ATV)
Apple TV has none of those problems.
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Apple TV does have a fan inside, but I know what you mean there.
 
Another viewpoint

I think it breaks down to this:

If you use iTunes, ATV is a no-brainer. There is no easier way to shuttle stuff to your Home Theater setup. Quality is top-notch and the UI is elegant. Plus, no other device plays protected iTunes content.

If you don't use iTunes, its a toss-up. Are you willing to switch to iTunes? If not, there is no competition; PS3 is the way to go. Are you a techie who wants access to file formats Apple doesn't support? PS3 again.

I have both. Apple TV for music and rental/purchased movies/tv and PS3 for games and Blu-Ray. I haven't tried PS3s new movie and tv service so I can't comment there, but if its anything like Playstation Store, ATV wins in that department.
 
Puddinman said:
I haven't tried PS3s new movie and tv service so I can't comment there, but if its anything like Playstation Store, ATV wins in that department.
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It is the Playstation store, slightly revamped, but still lacking the more user friendly ATV interface. Interesting though. ATV, IMHO, wins on all levels as a movie rental unit, but not by much.
 
I've owned an ATV and soon got rid of it.

My reasons:

1, Runs excessively hot, even when on standby (not that it really goes into standby as such). It may be quiet, but the external chassis seems to be one big heat sink running 24/7.

2, Does not support h.264 high profile. Why is this important? Well to get the best out of h.264, a higher profile can be selected by the author/encoder to get the best quality picture at a determined bit rate. This needs a more powerful CPU to decode and the ATV simply isn't powerful enough to decode the video and to handle higher bitrates often seen in the wild.
By contrast, the XBOX360/PS3 CAN decode high profile h.264 video. The only way I've found around that is to use a third party program to transcode the original high profile video to a compatible main profile video with a restricted bit rate, so it can be played on an ATV.
Example, a 2 hour video in HP h.264 would be about 1.5Gb. To convert that to a MP h.264 video, it would take at least 2 hours to convert, loose a generation of quality and would probably expand the filesize to 2Gb+.
Also note QuickTime can not natively play back h.264 above main profile. Perian can playback high profile+, but cannot transcode. Which is why a third party app like VisualHub is required.

I want to download and watch, not download, convert, lose quality and time before I can watch.
 
RemarkabLee said:
I've owned an ATV and soon got rid of it.

My reasons:

1, Runs excessively hot, even when on standby (not that it really goes into standby as such). It may be quiet, but the external chassis seems to be one big heat sink running 24/7.

2, Does not support h.264 high profile. Why is this important? Well to get the best out of h.264, a higher profile can be selected by the author/encoder to get the best quality picture. This needs a more powerful CPU to decode and the ATV simply isn't powerful enough. By contrast, the XBOX360/PS3 CAN decode high profile h.264 video. The only way I've found around that is to use a third party program to transcode the original high profile video to a compatible main profile video with a restricted bit rate, so it can be played on an ATV.
Example, a 2 hour video in HP h.264 would be about 1.5Gb. To convert that to a MP h.264 video, it would take at least 2 hours to convert, loose a generation of quality and would probably expand the filesize to 2Gb+.
Also note QuickTime can not natively play back h.264 above main profile. Perian can playback high profile+, but cannot transcode. Which is why a third party app like VisualHub is required.

I want to download and watch, not download, convert lose quality and time before I can watch.
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Which encoders have the capability of encoding in HP H264?
 
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