Honestly unless apple redesigns the OS going larger than iphone 5 is just going to put another 1-2 rows of icons. If they somehow incorporated gestures or OS that took advantage of the added screen space then it makes sense. Right now I think the OS is what is making the phone seem behind the curve. The iphone 5 has plenty of power and apple could really revamp/refine the OS to show off the true power of the A6 chip.
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The google map app is better then ever only lacking in integration compared to Apple maps. While not immediately available it's been out for quite a while now. So there's a very good alternative out there.
I'm not debating it good mapping software for everyone btw. But it is for some.
They will. Remember, they fired Scott Forstall over crap software (mostly Maps, but also reportedly the skewmorphic approach to certain apps like Game Center, and Find my Friends, with that stupid simulated leather and stitching). iOS7 will look different enough without alienating the hundreds of millions of people who use it now. (My prediction)
Nor am I. Although, I predict Apple will "borrow" what they deem the best features from Android, Touchwiz, SenseUI, et al.
This is extremely unlikely. I wouldn't hold my breath, if I were you.
The problem with this is that Apple cannot JUST design a phone for guys with big fingers. Samsung can do it because they've established a line of phones, of which the Note 2 is the "NBA player" phone. Apple, in offering one phone, has to try to make the size acceptable to the most hands and fingers as possible.
You're right. They won't make the phone heavier JUST to make it heavier. That's your personal taste, the weight of the phone. The only reason I could see the next phone heavier would be if they do something with the battery(to augment its life) that requires a bigger one that just happens to make it heavier.
The heavier part is just something I want. Like you said I would love a bigger battery I can barely make through the day on a change. Bigger battery would be awesome.
Well it sounds like we may be close to on the same page. Like you said they may take some ideas from android, but I am sure they want that "Apple" footprint all over it. I sure hope you are right about them changing things on iOS 7 that would be great. Also the screen size issue I think they could sale 2 different sizes at once.
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The more I think about it, the more I doubt IOS 7 will be that different. Apple is heavily rooted in corporate amercica now and I doubt they want to do anything to jeopardize that.
What? Give us one move Apple either made or didn't make specifically because of what corporations would think about their products.
It is a shame, I looked forward to the "wow me" offerings that Apple would present, problem is that the last time they did that (IMHO) was with the iPad. For the past couple of years they have trod water safe in the knowledge that their faithful following would be wowed with mediocre updates.
What do I want to see, I don't know, their job is to wow me, my job is to pay a premium to them for owning their new device. They did say that they would produce devices that consumers didn't know they needed. Well c'mon then Apple, show me something that I didn't know I need, you haven't done that for nigh on 3 years..
What do I want to see, I don't know, their job is to wow me, my job is to pay a premium to them for owning their new device. They did say that they would produce devices that consumers didn't know they needed. Well c'mon then Apple, show me something that I didn't know I need, you haven't done that for nigh on 3 years..
That's just basic common sense. They really stress the fact anyone and pick it up and instantly know how to use it. Personally, I like to tinker with my phone more so now than ever before. Android allows me to actually do this, and I don't see apple ever giving us that freedom if I'm being a realist.
And immediate usability is only a business use case???? So, you've got no data to support your assertion.
Riiiiigght. Quite faulty logic you're using there sir, and I'm not quite sure why you're taking this obviously incorrect approach.
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Apple wants, I believe, to make the best products they can, not "wow" anyone.
Really? I think wowing people is making the best products Apple can. Wowing people is what got Apple so popular. The thought of "it just works" only can take you so far.
No I am pretty sure other people in this thread have used that. You saying that Apple wants to just make good products not wow people sounds to be like they want to just keep making products that just work. Am I wrong?
Thank heavens for the jailbreak then
All my map stuff now opens directly in google maps.Jailbreak is the one and only reason i keep using iPhones. Good hardware and cracked open to use as i want, not how uncle Apple wants.
So it seems that most of you are fine with the way iOS is now, and don't think they need to change much. If you think they don't need to change much does that also mean you think they are still ahead of the curve after 6 years of the iPhone?
I still like my iPhone 5 a lot. I just think all the power it has it not being used with iOS. It is a very like mobile OS that can run on a 3GS still. I know all this is about keep loyal customers happy and I do believe that is a great business model, but I also believe they could make changes and still keep people happy.
I know we have already talked about the size of the iPhone, but I just had one for thought on it. Why could Apple not have 2 different iPhones sizes selling at the same time? That is what they are doing with the iPad and iPad mini. How long do you think it takes for Apple to see that big phones and there popularity are not going away?
I still like my iPhone 5 a lot. I just think all the power it has it not being used with iOS. It is a very like mobile OS that can run on a 3GS still. I know all this is about keep loyal customers happy and I do believe that is a great business model, but I also believe they could make changes and still keep people happy.
I know we have already talked about the size of the iPhone, but I just had one for thought on it. Why could Apple not have 2 different iPhones sizes selling at the same time? That is what they are doing with the iPad and iPad mini. How long do you think it takes for Apple to see that big phones and there popularity are not going away?
I missed the part where I said that was business specific. If you think apple doesn't care about keeping their ties on corporations you are being foolish. Data? Google it.
The thing with corporations that are using iOS devices, they are using their own apps to do what they need, and the apps are written using Apple's API (mostly just acting as a portal to a web based UI). Unless Apple does something very drastic to Cocoa Touch, then there is no need to worry. iOS can make huge changes without effecting cooperate use of the devices, and with over the air updates the devices pretty much have to be up to date, as there is no way to block the updates that I know of. Apple has a very good setup with being able to keep devices OS up to date, without corporations choosing to stay out dated to save costs, which has been Microsoft's huge mistake with many corporate computers still running XP, or (ghasp) 98.
Are posters seriously interpreting "It just works" to mean "It barely works" or "It just works, that's all it does, nothing more"?
I don't care if the phrase is true or not, but why would I have a conversation with someone who either (1) has such terrible comprehension skills or (2) intentionally misinterprets things?
I don't care if the phrase is true or not, but why would I have a conversation with someone who either (1) has such terrible comprehension skills or (2) intentionally misinterprets things?
Yea I am wrong? Ok so if you think they should keep making the best possible products what happened with the iphone 5 and scratching and bending? I don't call those best possible. Yes the iphone 5 is a really powerful device, but this has to be the most fragile iphone.
I think Steve Jobs built Apple to be a company that wows people. I mean look at what the iphone did in 2007, look at what the ipad did 2010. People were blown away. Why don't see think Apple wants to wow people?
I never claimed they always succeed in that goal. It's clear they don't. But making the best products is their goal, in my view.
Oh sure I think so too. I just thinking people being blown away by there products are a big thing too which is my argument for why they are behind the curve. They just have not done that in a long time.
Do you think they are headed the right direction? Would you prefer them not to change iOS very much?
Apple is a VERY secretive company. So little of what they do is leaked out by supply chain partners that there's little use in speculating on what they will or won't change.
When you ask if I think if they are headed in the right direction, what exactly are you speaking of? iOS? If so, you've already forgotten my reply to you earlier in this very thread.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16861122#post16861122
Yea is iOS right were it should be? Do you think they need to do something different with iOS 7? I do like my iphone 5 and iOS works well, but just a bit boring to me. It does all the things you need a smartphone to do. It just does not do them creatively. It is very cut and dry. That is what I feel like. I just wanted to see how you felt.
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I do remember your response, but those were just your predictions I wanted to know what you want from iOS. What think they should change or not change.