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Once AR is utilized more effectively, maybe this will shine. Doing electronics diagnosis, and having free floating additional programs above your physical meter could be pretty neat. Maybe a couple physical DJ turntables to make that stuff shine. From what I've heard of Vision Pro, only a keyboard has any of that sort of integration, showing text you type just above your physical keyboard.

Just seems... clunky right now. 1.5 lbs pulling on your face for a few hours, even the Mac virtual screen doesn't exactly have crazy resolution, limited to one window, and the device's display field has fuzzy edges according to The Verge...
Not sold on idea of trying to work with multiple windows, if you need to have eye focus on a window to work with it. I'm so used to looking at and working on other things while looking away from a monitor.

Microsoft Teams... or any other video collaboration software... what's the point if no one can see you, because you're wearing the device?
 
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Sequel just released version 2.2 which includes support for Mac and an updated iPad design and… native visionOS support. It’s the best media tracker out there so definitely add it to the list!
 
Not coming to the party? Disabled iPad App for Vision Pro. Spiteful or what?
  • Netflix
  • Spotify
  • YouTube
  • Facebook
  • WhatsApp

I dare these companies to boycott the Vision Pro platform indefinitely. Let them realise that they are not as indispensable as people here may think.
 
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I’ll be buying Complete HeartX right off the bat. It’s one of the main reasons I bought the AVP! 👍🏻
 
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Damn they really are lacking killer apps. This is supposed to be the Future of Spatial Computing.
All I see is windows.

Damn sick burn. If you meant Windows with a capital W. But remember it took a decade of decline for Windows to get that way. For two decades it had all the killer apps.
 
I dare these companies to boycott the Vision Pro platform indefinitely. Let them realise that they are not as indispensable as people here may think.

At the same time good luck to Apple going without them.

Both have something to gain. These apps get used more. Apple benefits from having the most popular apps on its headset.

As Netflix said recently certainly something could be worked out.

In the end it’s apples problem. They’re the ones selling the device and trying to have their next iPhone. It’s not these developers responsibility to help them do that, allow Apple to freely profit off having these popular branded apps, and be expected to pay Apple for the privilege.
 
At the same time good luck to Apple going without them.

Both have something to gain. These apps get used more. Apple benefits from having the most popular apps on its headset.

As Netflix said recently certainly something could be worked out.

In the end it’s apples problem. They’re the ones selling the device and trying to have their next iPhone. It’s not these developers responsibility to help them do that, allow Apple to freely profit off having these popular branded apps, and be expected to pay Apple for the privilege.

One door closes and another opens. If one app isn’t available, I will just make do with another alternative. And maybe in the process, I may realise that I didn’t really need the original app in the first place.

Already, we have Apple Music in place of Spotify (which is why I don’t expect Spotify to hold out for too long), Christian Selig’s Juno as an alternative viewer for YouTube, and streaming services feel kinda interchangeable to me. Does anyone here even care that fortnite isn’t available on iOS anymore?

I have been through the OG ipad years without Microsoft office and I can assure you, it’s their loss, not mine.
 
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At this moment the apple vision pro is a fancy but tiresome mac screen.
Comfort is not there.
For media consumption my old sucky oculus go did better with at least youtube and netflix support.
I know it is very early to say but i think apple may be on the wrong path for a good start. This product will not hold up without steam support
 
Each developer will make that choice separately. Some will bundle, some will not. For example, if the extra costs of developing means a price increase for everyone, that's not very fair.
Fortunately, it seems like the apps didn’t cost any extra money.

One thing I did spend money on was Juno, a third-party app for YouTube. It turns out that YouTube on Safari is actually quite bad because of the way the Vision Pro changes selection based on your eyes. When you first play a video, the progress bar and a whole lot of other controls are visible. They never go away, even if you don’t look at any of the controls, so the video is unfortunately dimmed. Bad Google. They shouldn’t have exempted their iPad app.

Juno is a reasonable YouTube replacement app, but it’s got one really annoying bug. One of the problems is that it won’t stay signed in. You go to Home and you’ll be signed out each time. Fortunately clicking the Sign In does do just that without re-entering credentials. A second problem is that it’s missing a list of subscriptions. It does have a subscription tab, but it just shows all your sub videos in reverse time order without the ability to choose a specific subscription. For $4.99, it’s decent. If those two things can be fixed, it’d be an awesome app.
 
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As much as I dislike headsets of this type. I do like the intention and the future. When prices or next one out. I would like to own one.
 
Many apps to try out on day 1. Waiting for Vision Pro to launch outside US
 
One app I was looking for was Paramount+. I couldn’t find it in the App Store. I did a search with Siri, but nothing showed up but other streaming apps. It was one of the promised apps. Hulu was another missing one.
 
the article says:


"Microsoft has designed Vision Pro versions of Teams, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote, and Loop. All of the apps have a visionOS-optimized interface with translucency to allow work content to blend in with the background, and the windows for the apps can be placed anywhere in virtual space."

I have not been able to fine Outlook for VisionOS, just the iPad version. Seems like they really only released Teams, PowerPoint, Word, and maybe Excel??? or am just missing that a native outlook AVP app is out there and I cant find it for some reason?
 
"Microsoft has designed Vision Pro versions of Teams, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote, and Loop. All of the apps have a visionOS-optimized interface with translucency to allow work content to blend in with the background, and the windows for the apps can be placed anywhere in virtual space."

Ahh - lovely
They wheeled out some Vista era translucency

I've never been working in Excel and thought..."Gee this would be so much better if it was a little harder to read and interpret because the background is blurring in with it a bit..."


This is truly reaching "change for the sake of change" territory
 
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Excellent list. Now if only I had a Vision Pro, but I've decided to wait a generation, or ten.
 
You're going to compare this to a cell phone? Something the average person already has a substantial need for? The iPhone could get away with not having extensive functionality on launch because it still satisfied users fundamental need of being a phone, first and foremost. What fundamental use-case does the Vision Pro satisfy? Also bear in mind, the original iPhone also had a $499 price tag, not $3499.

You obviously don't remember 2007. iPhone v1 was competing with $0 cellphones. Sometimes you had to pay $50 to get a really fancy razr on a 2y contract (a contract like you had to get with the $499 iPhone v1).

And it really didn't do anything more than a $0 cellphone.

Not yet.

The ENTIRE world was universally agreed that it was a ludicrously priced, for tech geeks only. A few saw its potential if it could ever run apps. But literally nobody even had an idea what phone apps would become, or how radically it would change the entire world by letting the tech world out of the computer room at home and into our pockets.

(Repeat this for iPad. Again for Apple Watch. Once AGAIN for Apple Vision.)

Do you see the connection?

Not yet.

AVP v4 probably isn't going to be in everybody's house. But v10? The one that's not much more bulky than ski-goggles and has actual passthrough? The technological world absolutely upended Feb 2, but like it did in 2007, most are unable to see it.
 
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You can't honestly believe there is even a comparison to be made here

The iPhone was an evolution and iteration on a well liked and exceptionally useful concept (mobile phones)

iPhone's ludicrous, wold-changing success is because it was actually an iteration on the mac sitting on your computer desk at home.

Are you old enough to remember the computer desk at home?

Spatial computing's world-changing success will because it iterates on pretty much every screen in your home.

A headset, whether VR/AR or anything else, is not going to remotely touch the adoption levels seen in mobile handheld devices. They are just wildly different categories

Who said anything about adoption rate?

The comparison is to the nearsighted response. Which like the iPhone measured it by, "Who's going to buy this (v1) product?" (That response ALWAYS points at the v1 product.)

The response which completely misses the groundshaking revolution the brand new interface made to the products coming out of Silicon Valley.

Yeah yeah, pocket screens existed before. Yeah yeah, VR, even AR existed before.

Multitouch didn't.

Spatial computing didnt't. (Seamless, high-res, high-rate, so-good-you-can-walk-around-your-house-and-even-pick-up-your-phone passthrough, etc.)

Silicon Valley getting access to you outside your computer desk at home changed the world. Took a while. And not all in good ways!

Silicon Valley getting to you outside your INTENTION TO LOOK AT A SCREEN will change the world. Will take a while. Will not be all good!
 
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