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That sounds about right. Zeiss are higher-end lenses for regular glasses.
Yep. My "room glasses" (used for computer work, good for up to about 11 feet) are Zeiss, and they were $600, including antireflective coating, scratch resistant coating, etc. But, that would be another $500 a year (assuming your prescription changes) on top of your regular glasses.
 
Perhaps they will have a progressive lens. Note that lots of Apple execs are in their late 40s or 50s and have presbyopia.
Progressive lenses won't make sense for a system that relies on eye and head tracking to determine what to render. In general, with progressives, you tilt your head and eyes to get the desired optical focus aligned between your eyes and what you are trying to look at. This happens because the optical path you need for distant objects is different from what you need for close objects, and you only have 1 pair of glasses on your head.

I'd guess that its more likely that the screens are set up to optically appear at a fixed distance from the eyes, and that the inserts only need to compensate for that single configuration.
 
Really? Most of the headsets I’ve owned could be upgraded to prescription lens, but allowed glasses with a spacer. I thought this was the first that didn’t allow glasses and only worked with prescription inserts. But I am swimming in the cheap end of the VR pool.
Sorry, I was tried and really just thinking of the AR market. Most of the AR solutions today require an insert. The electronics for AR are a lot different than VR. They sit closer to the head, which doesn’t allow a lot of room for eyewear.
 
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I don’t think there’s a need for that. Isn’t driving with your eyes covered ilegal already?
I know your license specifies whether you are required to have corrective lenses in order to drive. I'm not aware of any specific law that requires you not to drive with eyes covered. I would think there would be such a law existing already.

However Vision Pro takes us into new territory (maybe?) because it only covers your eyes part of the time and it could contain corrective lenses. I would point out that Vision Pro appears to impede your peripheral vision all the time. We might need new laws to cover such a device. Hopefully most people would have common sense about it.
 
I have 20/20 distance viewing, but need reading glasses... does this work without inserts then? i don't know how such goggles work...do you view into distance when using them or do you have to have extreme near sight capability?
 
I have 20/20 distance viewing, but need reading glasses... does this work without inserts then? i don't know how such goggles work...do you view into distance when using them or do you have to have extreme near sight capability?
Maybe some vitamins and eye exercises could correct it ? There's still time to fix our eyes before launch.
 
They're in the US, where any correction other than simple reading glasses require a prescription. Also, there's a good chance you won't need them if your only correction is reading glasses.
Yeah... wrong. I can't see a thing without glasses. But I can just buy some +2.75 reading glasses if I don't want to pay for a prescription and expensive glasses. This is still bs... if I know what magnifying power I need to be able to see, I should be able to buy it without a prescription.
 
It's just a recreational device... needing a prescription is nonsense. I find this very annoying.
 
Tim Cook is completely out of touch with reality. TC's Apple reminds me of the days when Steve Jobs was fired. Arrogance, incompetance, building masturbation products like this one that can't deal with glasses? WTF? Seriously, no I gotta buy more expensive zeiss lenses. LOL, joke product.
 
I'm genuinely impressed with the Apple Vision Pro... way more than I thought I would be... But this seems like an accessibility nightmare, and I'm really surprised Apple is going down this path the way they claim to care about disabilities. I guess the future is only available to people with good eyesight. Prescription lense add-ons won't work for everyone.

I do hope to own/experience this thing at some point if I can afford it. But how many years I'll be able to operate it is questionable considering how quickly my vision has been degrading in recent years.
 
We've had portable phones since 1973. It took 30-40 years for phones to become mainstream.

There were all sorts of iterations along the way.

We've had VR since 1960 and AR since 1968 - well before the first portable phone. Many, many iterations of the technology have been designed and released. I have no doubt that the technology will eventually succeed. It will still take a while, but it will be the future.

Heck, I used the internet back in the early 1980s. It was NOTHING like it is now. But all the small steps since then are what caused it to start to become mainstream in the late-1990s and 2000s. There was a huge step where people started using the internet in the early-2000s, but still the internet was NOTHING like it is today back in 2000.

That is entirely dependent on country, the US lagged far behind other countries in mobile phone tech till Apple and Android and Palm came along. It is not a general statement, indeed when the iPhone launched in the UK it had LESS features and cost more than other handsets. Other handsets had 3G and video calling and even app stores long before Apple.
So I don’t think that’s an argument you can make, plus this device actually disconnects you from the world like no other, you are replacing your vision with a digital one projected onto screens, you won’t be looking into your child’s eyes with this thing on, but looking at an image of them through cameras when they are stood next to you.

And you used the internet, not the World Wide Web, even email existed before that did.
 
I got a pretty high astigmatism and prescription. If it’s just from -x to +x that won’t cut it. Contacts would work I guess But I don’t like to wear them for an extended time.
No worries about extended time… VP has two hour battery life… v.1 is an alpha release… like almost all Apple hardware v.1 releases. VP M4/R3 will probably hit the mark and help launch Apple’s $3tn status. Wait. (But do not sell.)
 


Apple today announced the Apple Vision Pro, a wearable augmented and virtual reality headset. Because of the way the headset fits against the face, it does not accommodate glasses, but Apple has a solution for those who need prescription lenses.

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Apple is partnering with Zeiss to offer Zeiss Optical Inserts that can be customized to each person's vision prescription. The inserts will attach to the Vision Pro lenses magnetically, allowing for precise viewing and eye tracking.

There is no word yet on what the Zeiss prescription inserts will cost, but Apple says that vision correction accessories will be sold separately.

Glasses wearers will need a valid prescription to get the inserts, and not all prescriptions will be supported, so there will be some limitations that might prevent some people from using the headset.

The Vision Pro headset will be available in early 2024 and it will be priced starting at $3,499.

Article Link: Apple Vision Pro Headset Supports Prescription Inserts for Glasses Wearers
Mr. Cook says VP *_replaces_* a powerful computer (among other devices,) so where are the memory and storage specs?
 
I'm genuinely impressed with the Apple Vision Pro... way more than I thought I would be... But this seems like an accessibility nightmare, and I'm really surprised Apple is going down this path the way they claim to care about disabilities. I guess the future is only available to people with good eyesight. Prescription lense add-ons won't work for everyone.

I do hope to own/experience this thing at some point if I can afford it. But how many years I'll be able to operate it is questionable considering how quickly my vision has been degrading in recent years.
Yes, this particular product, the Vision Pro, at least the way it is being presented now, is NOT going to be very accessible to a number of people with various disabilities, not just visual impairments, which I pointed out in an earlier post on this thread. With all the efforts that Apple has made up to this point with providing accessibility tools for users of their products, this does seem to be rather surprising, not to mention disappointing.
 
It's extremely expensive. With many people in the Apple ecosystem finding things very difficult financially, it would have been kinder for Apple make this more affordable. whilst I understand that the company have to make profits, it also should look to improve the quality of people's lives. This could help a lot of disabled people but most of us are on a fixed income and whilst we may be able to afford a new Mac, iPhone or other item every so many years, this will be completely out of reach. A sad day for humanity.
 
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Well, I came here just now to see if anyone had posted how prescription glasses would be handled. I've wondered in the past that these type of devices assume you have good near vision.

But I think I can wait. Though I could afford this, I am more interested in getting a new car first :)
 
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That equipment also lasts for years. In a few years 5nm M2 will be quite old and eventually software support will be ditched.
Especially for a first-gen product. At best, you’ll get 2 years use out of this first model. Like my first Apple Watch, which was so slow as to be unusable by the time the series 2 ios update hit. I knew that would likely be the case, but I couldn’t help myself. At least, when the screen delaminated toward the end of the first year, Apple replaced it with a newer model.

But THIS technology does look amazing. I will just want to wait for at least the 3rd edition. I imagine there will be many bugs to work out for at least the first two generations of this. And given how much time Apple has invested in this tech, I do think they will give it at the very least 5+ years to catch on.
 
A pair of really good quality glasses in Sweden can cost around 400USD for a pair. Progressive would cost more than double. I don't know what type of glass needed to add for a person like me who uses progressive. But as Zeiss need to manufacture these in a smaller scale, Apple's price would be around 299-499 USD. They are thinking that if you have enough money to spend on a device which cost almost like a good used car, you definitely can stretch few hunders more.
Here in NYC, the lenses part of my glasses typically cost around $400, for -4.0, compressed lenses with the extra-special anti-glare treatment. The frames…well, you can go as low as $200 and well over $1K. My last pair cost me $1500 total (that’s including our 8.75% local tax). But I mostly wear contact lenses, so I only update my eyeglasses every few years (3-5). So I buy the frames that I like. My contact lenses (bi-weekly to monthlies; it depends on the month!) cost me around $230 per year. So needing vision correction doesn’t need to be hugely expensive if you want to use the VisionPro.

I would also compare the cost of the VisionPro more to a laptop. You could easily spend $3,500 USD on a MBP with decent RAM and storage. And this is a wearable, immersive computer that can surround you with a virtual environment, multiple screens, and work in apps (theoretically). That’s how I would look at it. Still, obviously not as practical as a laptop, and probably less capable at ‘standard’ work/use cases.
 
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